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Polk HTS12 12″ Ported Subwoofer Review

"It did not take long to ascertain that Polk’s HTS12 brings convincing, tight, tactile bass to the table. It’s a well-behaved sub that looks slick and feels solid. I doubt this sub would rank high on data-bass.com and I have no idea how it would do in a CEA2010 measurement but subjectively I can tell you it absolutely kicks ass and is a wakeup call to the ID sub makers that Polk is not about to leave money on the table when it comes to budget-performance subwoofer shoppers."

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It would be interesting how it would compare to the Emotiva BasX-12 $400, SVS PB1000 or Monolith 10, both $500 but each can be had for around $450 some of the time.

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It would be interesting how it would compare to the Emotiva BasX-12 $400, SVS PB1000 or Monolith 10, both $500 but each can be had for around $450 some of the time.
Bas-X 12" is the only only of these I reviewed. I see I gave it a "recommended" whereas the Polk was a convincing "Top Choice"

Revisiting the Emotiva review, they appear just about evenly matched. But, subjectively speaking the Polk sounds and feels just a bit tighter.

The Polk has the best port design and generally speaking has the best aesthetics among the subs you mention, for whatever that's worth.

Also, the cutout Polk showed at CES hints at a sub that's properly built on the inside, too. Like the ID brands.


Not bad for a $400 (on Amazon) sub.

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The Polk 660wi that I currently have in my setup (while I wait for the new PSA to arrive) is fairly potent for a 12"

Certainly no slouch, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to any of the bigger ID offerings.
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I once had a little ported Polk 8" that sounded far better than it's $350 (if I recall...this WAS about a decade ago) price tag would suggest.


I think we in the AV world have been so conditioned to find ultimate appeal in these big heavy drivers that when a 200 watt sub sporting a light driver comes along, most will just disregard it completely. I bet this thing rocks for music.

Pro subs are great too, especially around the crossover frequency because they're light. Nothing punches quite like paper.

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I'm so interested in this. I have signature series speakers which sound amazing. Ive completely written off these as I get the normal svs,hsu , emotiva recommendations instead. I have a psw 110 that's not enough for the space I have and looking for an upgrade. The pb 2000 seems like my choice but makes me think it's over kill

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I'm so interested in this. I have signature series speakers which sound amazing. Ive completely written off these as I get the normal svs,hsu , emotiva recommendations instead. I have a psw 110 that's not enough for the space I have and looking for an upgrade. The pb 2000 seems like my choice but makes me think it's over kill

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I had the PSW110 once upon a time. The HTS12 is way above it in terms of performance. The PB2000 is quite a bit larger and digs deeper but for literally twice the price. Given the choice of what to do with $800, I'd get two HTS12s over one PS2000 every time.
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I think it's fantastic. At first, when I got it, things were a bit unstable. Then I started from scratch, made sure all the firmware was up to date, and since then it's been perfect through at least a half dozen speaker and subwoofer swaps. Everything I need in one box, that's the T777 V3.
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I think it's fantastic. At first, when I got it, things were a bit unstable. Then I started from scratch, made sure all the firmware was up to date, and since then it's been perfect through at least a half dozen speaker and subwoofer swaps. Everything I need in one box, that's the T777 V3.
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I guess I better wrap that one up, lol. Yes.
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Interesting take on the HTS 12. At $450 it's priced right in that $500 and less range where you find quality subs like SVS PB-1000 and Monolith THX Select 10. The Monolith can be had for a tick under $400 sometimes on sale and I can attest to it being a great bang for the buck. I would have to hear the HTS 12 in person to believe it can even be in the conversation with the SVS or Monolith. I can see it being more comparable to the $400 Emotiva BasX S12, however.

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Interesting take on the HTS 12. At $450 it's priced right in that $500 and less range where you find quality subs like SVS PB-1000 and Monolith THX Select 10. The Monolith can be had for a tick under $400 sometimes on sale and I can attest to it being a great bang for the buck. I would have to hear the HTS 12 in person to believe it can even be in the conversation with the SVS or Monolith. I can see it being more comparable to the $400 Emotiva BasX S12, however.
This is what I'm wondering. I'm in the market for a new sub..... And to compliment my signature series speakers a signature series sub would be amazing.... But I've been weary as there's so many budget subs that are great....I feel like the pb1000 is it but I'll wonder that the 2000 would be perfect but maybe over kill

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I've been waiting for a "real" review on this sub for months.

Some of you might remember that I originally bought a HTS 12 to go with my new HT system and was considering a 2nd one. Of course when I came hear for advice I was told that the sub was crap, all Polk subs are crap, and I need to return it or burn it....LOL. Of course no one had actually listened to one, but given the track record of Polk subs it was assumed that the new HTS 12 was crap as well. I tried to say that it sounded pretty good and it was a better sub than anyone was giving it credit for.

In the end I was able to get a refund on the HTS 12 and ordered two SVS PB-1000's. The PB-1000 is a better sub and I'm pleased with my purchase decision. However the gap between the two subs is not as wide as the comments on here suggested. The HTS 12 is one of the better department store subs on the market this year. One thing I will say for the HTS 12 is that is looks fantastic. It has a very nice WAF friendly look to it.

The big issue with the HTS 12 is it's priced just a little to high if you are judging strictly on performance. In the Canadian market the HTS 12 lists at $649 and the PB-1000 is $675. The HTS 12 probably needs to be about $450 CDN to make it a choice worth considering. For $25 difference the PB-1000 is the better sub. The Polk sub is better looking though. It does get bonus marks for being the more attractive piece of furniture.

@Brian_Barros I would just go ahead and get the PB-2000 if it fits your budget. As much as I love these little PB-1000's, I wish I went have went dual PB-2000's and then I wouldn't have the upgrade bug already...LOL.
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I've been waiting for a "real" review on this sub for months.

Some of you might remember that I originally bought a HTS 12 to go with my new HT system and was considering a 2nd one. Of course when I came hear for advice I was told that the sub was crap, all Polk subs are crap, and I need to return it or burn it....LOL. Of course no one had actually listened to one, but given the track record of Polk subs it was assumed that the new HTS 12 was crap as well. I tried to say that it sounded pretty good and it was a better sub than anyone was giving it credit for.

In the end I was able to get a refund on the HTS 12 and ordered two SVS PB-1000's. The PB-1000 is a better sub and I'm pleased with my purchase decision. However the gap between the two subs is not as wide as the comments on here suggested. The HTS 12 is one of the better department store subs on the market this year. One thing I will say for the HTS 12 is that is looks fantastic. It has a very nice WAF friendly look to it.

The big issue with the HTS 12 is it's priced just a little to high if you are judging strictly on performance. In the Canadian market the HTS 12 lists at $649 and the PB-1000 is $675. The HTS 12 probably needs to be about $450 CDN to make it a choice worth considering. For $25 difference the PB-1000 is the better sub. The Polk sub is better looking though. It does get bonus marks for being the more attractive piece of furniture.

@Brian_Barros I would just go ahead and get the PB-2000 if it fits your budget. As much as I love these little PB-1000's, I wish I went have went dual PB-2000's and then I wouldn't have the upgrade bug already...LOL.
The biggest issue is the wife the 2000s are going to be too big....I could probably get one. But would be easier for 2 pb1000 or hts12

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Have you considered the PC-2000? Your wife can put a doily on top and a plant or decoration.



IQ still has "as new" PC-2000 for $659 via Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...&condition=all
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I would pick dual PB-1000's over a single PB-2000. That is what I did. However dual PB-2000's is what I really should've done.

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Have you considered the PC-2000? Your wife can put a doily on top and a plant or decoration.



IQ still has "as new" PC-2000 for $659 via Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...&condition=all
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Yep. Actually, SVS rates the PC-2000 as having a bit more low end range. PC-2000- 16-260 Hz ± 3 dB. PB-2000- 17-260 Hz ± 3 d. The PC is just the cylinder version, using the same amp and driver as the box version PB.

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Yep. Actually, SVS rates the PC-2000 as having a bit more low end range. PC-2000- 16-260 Hz ± 3 dB. PB-2000- 17-260 Hz ± 3 d. The PC is just the cylinder version, using the same amp and driver as the box version PB.
Is there a down side to the cylinder style sub?

Just wondering why everyone wouldn't get it if it's lighter, has a smaller footprint, and performs as good or slightly better?

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Is there a down side to the cylinder style sub?

Just wondering why everyone wouldn't get it if it's lighter, has a smaller footprint, and performs as good or slightly better?
1. You have to like the look of the cylinder, which is a matter of taste.
2. It's available in one finish: Matte black cloth.
3. It's tall, which means it can't go in front of a screen without blocking. Also, that height may be more of an issue than the footprint, depending.

As far as plusses go, it's true cylinders will not flex like a box so they can be lighter. Plus, the height and large internal volume also allows for a big, long port tube and consequently you see the "slightly better" performance in the form of a bit more extension on the low end.
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1. You have to like the look of the cylinder, which is a matter of taste.
2. It's available in one finish: Matte black cloth.
3. It's tall, which means it can't go in front of a screen without blocking. Also, that height may be more of an issue than the footprint, depending.

Yeah, the PC-2000 has a cloth covering around the entire cylinder. It does come in two finishes, however. It's just the top-cap, but comes in black ash or piano black. The PB-2000 actually only comes in one finish, black ash. The cylinder subs do also come with the Soundpath Isolation feet standard. The box subs don't come with them and they run $50 for a set of 4. One thing I grew to not care for with the SVS box subs is the metal grille. It's heavy and with age and if you remove it very much, it gets loose and will be prone to coming loose with heavy output. I wish SVS had an option for a cloth grille like their PB-1000 and most every other front-firing subs made today.



I've had the PB-2000 and PC-2000 and they perform much the same. I also had dual PC12-NSD's, but once I got a 100" screen I couldn't use them up front due to the height (refer to #2 ). You can lay them on their side and some people do that in instances like behind a couch out of sight.
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Let us know how it performs. As one can see, I really like subs and also have some Polk Signature speakers.
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I would pick dual PB-1000's over a single PB-2000. That is what I did. However dual PB-2000's is what I really should've done.
I'm curious about what you find "wrong" with the PB-1000s. Is it a matter of output? Extension? Bass quality?

I ask because I ordered one, and for the moment, I think it will be more than enough for me (or so I hope). But it always makes me curious when people feel that they need a bit "more". Dual PB-1000s seems like a lot of output already, and you mentioned that you were satisfied with their performance. So, what are you after?

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Let us know how it performs. As one can see, I really like subs and also have some Polk Signature speakers.
So far i’m Happy. Defiantly goes a lot deeper than the Audio Pro, and the Klipsch I had before that. Still playing with placement etc, and trying to test if it is worth running it in tandem with the Audio Pro. There is a bit of difference in size and output....

Edit: I just watched Gaurdians of the Galaxy 2 on 4K Blu Ray (the DTS MA track, I don’t have Atmos.....yet.) Wow! Big grins, shook the room , super impressed, and very happy. I’m sure there are plenty of better subs out there, but I’m really satisfied with this Polk. I was considering the SVS PB-1000, but the HTS12 was less than 2/3rds of the price and does what I need it to do. Wife likes the look of it too (even if it is kinda big!)
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I was wondering how the JBL SUB 260P Studio 12" sub would compare. $349 at WWS right now. I found it on JBL's website after some searching and it says " not available" so I am assuming it has been discontinued. Anyone know or have any experience with this Sub ?


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I was considering the SVS PB-1000, but the HTS12 was less than 2/3rds of the price and does what I need it to do. Wife likes the look of it too (even if it is kinda big!)

Where did you buy the HTS 12 for less than $334?

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Where did you buy the HTS 12 for less than $334?
Haha, I wish. I’m in New Zealand. List price for the PB-1000 is NZ$1199 here, and they are only carried by specialist HiFi stores who won’t discount them. List price on the HTS12 is NZ$899, I paid $775. The price we pay for living in paradise.

And before anyone suggests ordering a sub from the US. Shipping for a sub like this is about $400.
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I'm curious about what you find "wrong" with the PB-1000s. Is it a matter of output? Extension? Bass quality?

I ask because I ordered one, and for the moment, I think it will be more than enough for me (or so I hope). But it always makes me curious when people feel that they need a bit "more". Dual PB-1000s seems like a lot of output already, and you mentioned that you were satisfied with their performance. So, what are you after?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the PB-1000. The pair perform fantastic together in my basement.

For me it's just a matter of getting my first taste of some decent audio equipment and now curious what more would sound like. I'm fortunate enough that I don't have a tight budget which of course makes temptation that much worse. I also couldn't have predicted how much my wife is enjoying the new HT setup. In hind sight the extra $1000 CDN for the 2000's would have been money well spent.

You will enjoy your PB-1000. Don't sweat it. Actually I feel like my HT sounds better everytime I turn it on. If speaker and sub break in is an actual thing than its happening. We watched Guardians of the Galaxy 2 last night and the subs were magnificent for the last 1/2 hour of the movie.

One thing I'm totally sold on is dual subs. The bass is so smooth and consistent everywhere in both rows of seats we have.
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