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post #1 of 12 Old 12-08-2018, 10:31 PM - Thread Starter
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Front LR KEF R500
Center KEF 600C
Rears Kef R100
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Need a recommendation for dual subs. This is an all you can eat setup. Life is short and I won't be here for long and no children so I want to do this right. Had a $10k budget but GF split so don't have to leave anything to her although I'd like something nice for the funeral. Gonna have the juice to power these babies. Want the neighbors to call the cops every day until I'm gone.
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First of all, I sincerely hope that you are exaggerating about the brief amount of time you have left here on the planet. In case you are not, I support you and your decision to go out in style.

If I were in your situation this

http://jtrspeakers.com/captivator-4000ulf.html

or this

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV25HP.html

would be on the top of my list.
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Front LR KEF R500
Center KEF 600C
Rears Kef R100
AVS etc TBD

Need a recommendation for dual subs. This is an all you can eat setup. Life is short and I won't be here for long and no children so I want to do this right. Had a $10k budget but GF split so don't have to leave anything to her although I'd like something nice for the funeral. Gonna have the juice to power these babies. Want the neighbors to call the cops every day until I'm gone.
Yeah a couple of JTR Cap4000ULFs should do it...unfortunately the Kef's (though very nice!) will really struggle to keep up at the levels you're talking about
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+1 to the JTR Captivator 4000ULF.
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Two quad stacks of Seaton F18s at 1/4 spacing on front wall? Each stack being one active master with 4kw amp and three passive slaves.

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Look up Deep Sea Sounds. That will rock your world you could do a pair of their 24's and blow most others out of the water. The owner is on here a lot and u am sure would be happy to answer any questions @dgage . Good luck should be a awesome setup.
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People i believe he has 10k for his entire setup(speakers, tv, avr, subs) not just the subs.(he's been asking questions on the KEF thread)

I also believe he's going full 7.2.4 so he'll need some external amplification if he goes with an x4400h etc.

i'm guessing he's going to have around 2.5-3K left over for subs. His room is also 2500 cu.ft.

i recommended him Dual FV15HP/ Dual Monolith 15's

unless his budget has increased ?

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It is time to go full on diy then. You could blow down your neighbor's house in that kind of budget. A few Hs-24 some htm-12 for the front and volt surrounds and top it off with some clone amps. It would be a bit of work but would sound awesome and be as much bass as he is likely ever to need.
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Yep the best way to get loud for cheap is DIY,
otherwise you'll need JTR 4000's or DeepSea 24's to come even remotely-close to some of the systems in there.
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If you are interested in doing some reading, data-bass.com is a fantastic resource when researching subs. The JTR lineup tops the list in a few categories, and sounds like a great fit. They also have a lot of information on individual drivers if you plan on going the DIY route.

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If you are interested in doing some reading, data-bass.com is a fantastic resource when researching subs. The JTR lineup tops the list in a few categories, and sounds like a great fit. They also have a lot of information on individual drivers if you plan on going the DIY route.
Yes, but keep in mind most of the data-bass measured DIY subs where sealed and single 18's.
The JTR is a dual 18 ported sub. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Put 2 RE-18's or RF-19's or HS-24's or even HST-18's in a ported box tuned to 10hz and it will match or beat the JTR 4k with ease... heck even 4 ported UM-18's + 2 NX6kDSP's could probably do it.
FYI the SI SHS-24 is on sale right now, that's a hella bargin considering it's normal price.
If you need more power than a nx6k, the FP20k amp is a lot more powerful: 16kW burst CEA-2010, 8kW RMS. For <$800. (120v 60a or 240v 30a.)
The FP20k can power about 16 UM-18's and melt 8 UM-18's, all in 2RU and very cheaply. No warranty though. If you want the real-deal the Gruppen PLM is the price you'll pay.
If you want a good USA-made amplifier with a warranty, SpeakerPower is the one you want to buy. That's the amp that powers subs like the JTR and DeepSea.

If DIY is too much work, then by all means the JTR 4k is the next best thing.

If you want to "get loud" cheaply, without going DIY... multiple Mackie Thump 18's will get you there, a pair will do 136db @ 1m:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...ered-subwoofer

Keep in mind that 90% of movies and 95% of music is >30hz. Top40/rap/dance/metal/rock/country/U571 explosions, thunder etc.
Pretty much everything except: pipe organs, helicopter blades, earthquakes and BassILoveU (6hz+17hz+30hz).
Chest-kick is in the 50-300hz mid-bass range, not the <30hz ULF range.
Rock concerts and dance clubs are all >30hz, and you can feel it. They use subs like Mackie, JBL, Yorkville, Peavey, Behringer etc.

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fv15hp by rythmik make good endtables

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