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PSA V1811 vs. RYTHMIK FV18

Recommendations / advice needed. I am setting up a 7.1.2 (eventually 7.2.2) for my basement theater/entertainment room. Usage spit 50/50 between music and HT. Already chose PSA for fronts, center, side surrounds, and both rear speakers.
Really stuck on this because I’m trying to achieve the best of both worlds between good tight clear sounding bass for music, but also good sounding bass when enjoying movies.

Room size is 15 x 25 x 7.5

Narrowed down to the PSA V1811 and Rythmik F25. Problem is I’ve never heard either, and I don’t want to buy both simply to find out which is better.

Some say the ported V1811 still produces crisp tight bass for music, and awesome for HT
Some say the F25 while sealed produces awesome sound for music, and does a good job for HT as well

I just want to know which is a better choice.

I’m hoping for advice and guidance please.

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Recommendations / advice needed. I am setting up a 7.1.2 (eventually 7.2.2) for my basement theater/entertainment room. Usage spit 50/50 between music and HT. Already chose PSA for fronts, center, side surrounds, and both rear speakers.
Really stuck on this because I’m trying to achieve the best of both worlds between good tight clear sounding bass for music, but also good sounding bass when enjoying movies.

Room size is 15 x 25 x 7.5

Narrowed down to the PSA V1811 and Rythmik F25. Problem is I’ve never heard either, and I don’t want to buy both simply to find out which is better. I’m hoping for advice and guidance please.
Did you mean FV25 which is ported? the F25 is sealed and the V1811 is ported.
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Did you mean FV25 which is ported? the F25 is sealed and the V1811 is ported.
I Know the F25 is sealed. I’ve had some people comment that the F25 does the job well for 50/50 music and HT, though that was a post specific to listening to music. I want to be able to use the sub(s) to hear undistorted music clear and tight. I know sealed subs do this well. I’ve also seen post suggesting that PSA ported subs are still tight, and good for clear music. Hoping for solid advice on this specific question which is the reason I started this post.
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Did you mean FV25 which is ported? the F25 is sealed and the V1811 is ported.
Imureh, i just noticed that you have the exact set up that I am going with minus the SVS Atmos. The sub is where I’m stuck and undecided. How do your FV18’s perform with running music through them? I love awesome bass, but can’t stand bass that distorts good music.
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None of the subs you are considering will distort good music. It’s really much more about your room and your sound signature preference.
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None of the subs you are considering will distort good music. It’s really much more about your room and your sound signature preference.
Thanks sk373
Would you recommend the S1811 or the V1811 for what I describe that I am looking for?
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Imureh, i just noticed that you have the exact set up that I am going with minus the SVS Atmos. The sub is where I’m stuck and undecided. How do your FV18’s perform with running music through them? I love awesome bass, but can’t stand bass that distorts good music.


For music Rythmik subs are excellent. If you were really looking for max performance for music, I would suggest the G25HP. The FV18 is a bargain at the price offered. I have the paper cone version which brings a warmer sound compared to the aluminum. All of the sealed and ported rythmik will offer the lowest distortion you can buy.


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How loudly do you like to listen? If you are starting with one, I would lean towards a V1811. A single S1811 might not be enough for your room, which I calculated to be a bit over 2800 cu ft. I have dual S1801’s in a 1815 cu ft. room for reference.

You also might want to stretch the budget and look at a S3611.
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For music Rythmik subs are excellent. If you were really looking for max performance for music, I would suggest the G25HP. The FV18 is a bargain at the price offered. I have the paper cone version which brings a warmer sound compared to the aluminum. All of the sealed and ported rythmik will offer the lowest distortion you can buy.


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Imureh thanks, how do the Rythmiks do with home theater? Do they perform well for both music and movies?
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Imureh thanks, how do the Rythmiks do with home theater? Do they perform well for both music and movies?


Yes they do. I would encourage you to read the first few pages of my sub comparison thread below

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...topics/3018282



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I would say F25's if you can accommodate the size. I don't see the V1811 having a advantage anywhere other then they pack a lot of punch in a smallish package. I auditioned a V1801 a couple years ago and it was a nice sub. I only returned it because it didn't really add much to the overall experience since I already have 3 subs. If I had to move down to 1 or 2 subs, a pair of the V1811's would be hard to beat for those that need as much bass possible in a smallish enclosure. no experience with the F25 but they were the #1 sub on my list 6yrs ago... Rythmik was not shipping them at the time.
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If you are into making love, the Rythmik ...

If you prefer slap and giggle, then the PSA ...

Now that that has been cleared up ... a decision should be easy!

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If you prefer slap and giggle, then the PSA ...

Now that that has been cleared up ... a decision should be easy!

not bad, not bad at all...Lol!!
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If you prefer slap and giggle, then the PSA ...

Now that that has been cleared up ... a decision should be easy!

What if I like to slap and giggle while making love
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If you are into making love, the Rythmik ...

If you prefer slap and giggle, then the PSA ...

Now that that has been cleared up ... a decision should be easy!

Giggle is usually what happens when I....


Never mind.....
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I have zero experience with the Rythmik subs, but they were high on my very short list during my basement finish. All user comments indicate Rythmik subs are a sure buy.

My room shares similar dimensions, but is a bit narrower (2600 ft^3 versus your 2800 or so ft^3). For my room, my movie and music preferences, and my goals, my twin PSA V1811s fit the bill nicely. Nathan East's bass (on my favorite Fourplay tracks) is deep and punchy while remaining detailed and articulate. The 5.1 mix of Dream Theater's latest release (Distance Over Time) is another good demo for my room--bass, synthesizers, and drums really shine with the V1811s. Then there's movies. These subs (in my room) offer the proper measure of LFE presence and impact during Blade Runner 2049, Everest, Kong: Skull Island, Wonder Woman, Ready Player One, and other selections.

Are there better subs for roughly the same money? Perhaps. As you likely know, sealed subs versus ported subs is a discussion that often revolves around the trade-offs involved between the two designs--individual tastes/goals are a large determining factor in which design a consumer will choose. Your room is a bit wider than mine, so you may have the room for the F25 enclosure (either upright or on its side). I was a bit more concerned with enclosure size due to the layout of other speakers and furniture in the room, so I felt the V1811 subs would work better from that standpoint...and provide the flexibility I might need for optimum placement options based on REW measurements.

The internet-direct subwoofer companies really provide a sweet spot for all consumers these days--great products for all budgets and tastes. You've gotten some good insight from those who posted here before me. Decide which sub you want, make your purchase, perform your install/set-up, and enjoy your investment. Buy one of the subs you're comparing in this thread and I really think you cannot go wrong.

Best of luck with your decision.
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Recommendations / advice needed. I am setting up a 7.1.2 (eventually 7.2.2) for my basement theater/entertainment room. Usage spit 50/50 between music and HT. Already chose PSA for fronts, center, side surrounds, and both rear speakers.
Really stuck on this because I’m trying to achieve the best of both worlds between good tight clear sounding bass for music, but also good sounding bass when enjoying movies.

Room size is 15 x 25 x 7.5

Narrowed down to the PSA V1811 and Rythmik F25. Problem is I’ve never heard either, and I don’t want to buy both simply to find out which is better.

Some say the ported V1811 still produces crisp tight bass for music, and awesome for HT
Some say the F25 while sealed produces awesome sound for music, and does a good job for HT as well

I just want to know which is a better choice.

I’m hoping for advice and guidance please.
I’ve narrowed my choices to PSA V1811’s and Rythmik FV18’s. I will be ordering around May 15th which is approximately when my HT/Sound room build will be completed so I have 6-7 weeks to decide. Any further advice between the two is welcome.
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I’ve narrowed my choices to PSA V1811’s and Rythmik FV18’s. I will be ordering around May 15th which is approximately when my HT/Sound room build will be completed so I have 6-7 weeks to decide. Any further advice between the two is welcome.
I've heard both in 2 very different rooms and if it were my money........I'd buy the FV18. The v18xx is a very capable sub but for various reasons I like the FV18 better. It's an all around great sub and hard to beat in it's price range. And honestly, with the caveat that I have not heard every sub ever, I don't think there is a better sub in this range. If you lean more toward music, get the aluminum cone. If more movies, get the paper cone. This sub is super flexible on setup giving it the ability to be super tight or a little bit loose.

Good luck.

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I've heard both in 2 very different rooms and if it were my money........I'd buy the FV18 every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not trying to disparage the very capable v18xx but for various reasons I like the FV18 better. It's an all around great sub and hard to beat in it's price range. And honestly, with the caveat that I have not heard every sub ever, I don't think there is a better sub in this range. If you lean more toward music, get the aluminum cone. If more movies, get the paper cone. This sub is super flexible on setup giving it the ability to be super tight or a little bit loose.

Good luck.

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I've never heard either sub, but my opinion based on what I've read here on the forums is the V18xx is the choice if you want an 18 inch ported, and you want/need the smallest one available. If you have more room, there are better choices. It depends on needs and wants. If you have the room, a bigger one is going to normally give you a better experience, all other things being equal. If you want a PSA 18 inch, and don't need to worry about size, PSA will apparently have an answer for you very soon.
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Recommendations / advice needed. I am setting up a 7.1.2 (eventually 7.2.2) for my basement theater/entertainment room. Usage spit 50/50 between music and HT. Already chose PSA for fronts, center, side surrounds, and both rear speakers.
Really stuck on this because I’m trying to achieve the best of both worlds between good tight clear sounding bass for music, but also good sounding bass when enjoying movies.

Room size is 15 x 25 x 7.5

Narrowed down to the PSA V1811 and Rythmik F25. Problem is I’ve never heard either, and I don’t want to buy both simply to find out which is better.

Some say the ported V1811 still produces crisp tight bass for music, and awesome for HT
Some say the F25 while sealed produces awesome sound for music, and does a good job for HT as well

I just want to know which is a better choice.

I’m hoping for advice and guidance please.
You've narrowed your choice and likely are close to making a decision. My advice to you is to not fall into the "paralysis by analysis" trap. Either manufacturer here is going to deliver in spades for you, but each also offers a trial period to ease your mind. If I'm not mistaken, return shipping would be your responsibility, but a relatively slight risk considering the overall investment you're making. Given your two choices here, I truly believe you cannot go wrong with either subwoofer.

Something else to consider though...if you're willing to spend an extra couple hundred dollars or so for return shipping, and spend a lot of focused time on set-up/demo/testing, you could order the Rythmik AND the PSA to make absolutely sure. Stagger your orders by a week or so you can live with each for a short while, then (if possible) make direct comparisons with the same material to make an informed decision based on your room, preferences, and goals. This is really the only option that will reveal which subwoofer is truly right for you. But if you can only do this once and not afford to ship subwoofers back to a given manufacturer, I'll stand by my statement that you cannot go wrong with either choice here.

Best of luck with your decision. It's a great time to be a consumer in the internet-direct subwoofer world.
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