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Recommendation SB-4000 vs ULS-15 MK2?

Hi guys, I was wondering if someone could recommend which sub would be better for our new living room (SB-4000 vs ULS-15 MK2). I am going to start of with one subwoofer and eventually move up to duals if I have to in the future. I have a 2240 open cubic foot room, listen to 50/50 Movies/Music and the room has in-wall speakers to make the wife happy. I prefer the sound of sealed subs over the ported versions and wife prefers the sealed due to the size footprint. I would like to stay under $1500. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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I are you open to any other subwoofers or is the choice between the two subs listed.

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I are you open to any other subwoofers or is the choice between the two subs listed.
I am open to other brands also. Thank you

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Also look at the PSA S1811 and Rythmik F15HP, which are within your budget. Rythmik is known for incredibly musical subs and the PSA gives you some serious firepower for that price level combined with top notch customer service and for those that care about it, made in America.
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Also look at the PSA S1811 and Rythmik F15HP, which are within your budget. Rythmik is known for incredibly musical subs and the PSA gives you some serious firepower for that price level combined with top notch customer service and for those that care about it, made in America.
Thank you! Any preference between all of them?

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I too was going to recommend the PSA S1811

Made in America, 5 year warranty on amp/ driver. Trade in/up program. The Best customer service in the business and 18 inch driver in the sealed box digs very deep and will satisfy for Music and Movies.

The subwoofer isn’t too big and not too heavy.
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Thank you! Any preference between all of them?
It comes down to personal preference. In my opinion both the Rythmik and PSA would be the best choices. The Hsu has tremendous value at its low price, but the PSA and Rythmik are the next step up from that level. The SVS is a bit overpriced unless you really want the digital controls. I don't think you can go wrong with either the Rythmik or PSA and you will have fanboys for both of them. I admit, I am slightly biased towards PSA as Tom (the owner of PSA and previously co-founder of SVS) has been nothing short of spectacular to me as far as service and his customer service policies are the best in the business. With that said, Enrico from Rythmik also peruses these boards and I have seen him go above and beyond many times as well. The PSA with its 18" driver will have the edge in sheer firepower. Plus, it feels good to be able to support a company as devoted to US made product as PSA is. Cabinets are made by a local Ohio cabinetry company, they assemble the amps in house and the drivers are made by Eminence in Kentucky.
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If you went DIY, you could have dual sealed subs quite easily for that budget. Buy two Ultimax 15" subs (you can even get a flatpack to make the build that much easier) and put them in a 3-4 cubic foot sealed box. Buy an inuke 3000DSP amplifier, create a negative high shelf filter at -9db, 20hz and low shelf filter of 3-6db at 20hz. The result will be flat to 20Hz and only 6db down at 10Hz. With high excursion dual subs, you'll be set to have deep bass for movie watching at normal living room listening levels.

If you want to just purchase from an ID dealer, I recommend Hsu or Rythmik.
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Thank you guys, I really appreciate it. I'm going to go try to go with the Rythmiks or HSU. The wife is asking for only 1 subwoofer now so now I'm rethinking the sealed subwoofer, lol. Do you guys think the F15HP sealed would be sufficient for 50/50 music/movies we watch at moderate levels? Or would you recommend me changing over to the ported FV15HP since it's only 1 now? The HSU's are slightly cheaper also and I'm local so it would save me on shipping so I am leaning towards the the ULS-15 Single or the VT3-MK5 Single for a cheaper price. It's not a huge room and we will not be maxing it out with in-walls so maybe I'm over thinking this lol.

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Living Room - LG OLED65C7P / Yamaha RX-V685 / Goldenear Invisa HTR-7000's / No Sub :(

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The thing about one vs two subwoofers is not so much about more output as much as it is about evening the response in the room. Two subs usually get you a smoother frequency response in room and thus a more accurate sound reproduction. So see if you can't sweet talk her into 2 (try things like the symmetry of having two will look better, etc). Maybe something like two of the downfiring PSA S1510DF will more likely pass muster. The downfiring design looks less subwooferish to some people and they make great end tables.

With that said sometimes there is just no way around having to be stuck with one. I've been there a while. If you think you prefer sealed sound and you want to go one large subwoofer, I'd go with the FV15HP. The sound of the ported rythmik is often considered as close to sealed as you will get in a ported sub in that price range. Ported also brings the Monolith 15 into play. Also a great sub, but I trust Rythmik customer service over monolith any day.
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