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Help identifying older Velodyne sub

A friend recently moved and his older Velodyne sub was damaged, likely to the point of non-repairability, by the movers. He's trying to identify the model for insurance purposes, and Velodyne is being surprisingly unhelpful. I believe the sub has a modestly-sized 10" driver but a beast of an amplifier rated at 1250 watts RMS. Any suggestions on how to identify the model and its present-day equivalent? Much appreciated.


P.S. I'm not sure why the site is turning correctly oriented photos on their side.
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A quick google of "velodyne tandem 3" push-pull" suggests it may be an HGS-10:
- manual
- review

-- Edit --
Reviewing the links, the HGS-10 has a 1000W amp while the HGS-12 has a 1250W amp. Are you sure it's a 10" driver (measured to the outer edges of the metal basket)?

-- Edit #2 --
Going by this pic from an ad on CAM, it's definitely the HGS-12.

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A quick google of "velodyne tandem 3" push-pull" suggests it may be an HGS-10:
- manual
- review

-- Edit --
Reviewing the links, the HGS-10 has a 1000W amp while the HGS-12 has a 1250W amp. Are you sure it's a 10" driver (measured to the outer edges of the metal basket)?

-- Edit #2 --
Going by this pic from an ad on CAM, it's definitely the HGS-12.

I think you're right and he was mismeasuring the driver, Velodyne HGS-12 seems to fit the bill.


The Velodyne website doesn't seem to be functional enough to try to locate its present-day equivalent.

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I own that sub, hgs 12 under my desk with some little audioengine a2+ desktop speakers. I got that sub to hit 110db's in a wide open room, I dont think I will ever try that again as this sub has had some warranty issues with amp....knock on wood mine has not.

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that sub was retail 2 grand when it came out 20 yrs ago or so. think I paid 1200 on clearance. an equal would be any top line 12 inch sealed sub w/piano finish.

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that sub was retail 2 grand when it came out 20 yrs ago or so. think I paid 1200 on clearance. an equal would be any top line 12 inch sealed sub w/piano finish.

Wow, that's about $3000 in 2019 dollars! It'll be interesting to see what the insurance company is willing to cover for my friend, depreciated value (probably not much) versus replacement cost (a lot).

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A friend recently moved and his older Velodyne sub was damaged, likely to the point of non-repairability, by the movers. He's trying to identify the model for insurance purposes, and Velodyne is being surprisingly unhelpful. I believe the sub has a modestly-sized 10" driver but a beast of an amplifier rated at 1250 watts RMS. Any suggestions on how to identify the model and its present-day equivalent? Much appreciated.


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It's a Velodyne HGS-12. The box dimensions are 14" x 14.5" x 14".

Here's a link to the Velodyne product manual for the HGS-10 & 12:
http://velodyneacoustics.com/pdf/hgs...riesManual.pdf

Here's a link for a review of the product that verifies the MSRP of $1995:
https://hometheaterhifi.com/volume_5...dynehgs12.html

The Velodyne HGS-12 is a 20 plus year old unit so good luck with the insurance company as they are going to want to depreciate the value considerably. I would suggest that your friend leverage the insurance company for a JL Audio E-Sub, e112. It's very similar in size, has a 12" driver and a 1500 watt amplifier. MSRP for the JL Audio is $2300 in piano black gloss finish and $2100 in black ash finish.
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It's a Velodyne HGS-12. The box dimensions are 14" x 14.5" x 14".

Here's a link to the Velodyne product manual for the HGS-10 & 12:
http://velodyneacoustics.com/pdf/hgs...riesManual.pdf

Here's a link for a review of the product that verifies the MSRP of $1995:
https://hometheaterhifi.com/volume_5...dynehgs12.html

The Velodyne HGS-12 is a 20 plus year old unit so good luck with the insurance company as they are going to want to depreciate the value considerably. I would suggest that your friend leverage the insurance company for a JL Audio E-Sub, e112. It's very similar in size, has a 12" driver and a 1500 watt amplifier. MSRP for the JL Audio is $2300 in piano black gloss finish and $2100 in black ash finish.

Agreed that the insurance company is likely to depreciate the value a lot. That JL Audio seems like a strong replacement contender. Another option I'd recommend based on my own good experiences is a Rythmik sub, or possibly a Salk build of a Rythmik sub if he wants a really high-end finish.

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