Originally Posted by Leon!
Ah I wasn't mocking you man, I'm sorry my post came across that way... was just trying to be funny. And I don't judge anyone's priorities, just identify and work within them. I have some odd ones myself sometimes. But general rule around here is go bigger than what you think you need, bass is a quick deep upgrade rabbit hole.
Anyway sounds like you pretty much have it figured out now, what subs are going to work for you given your needs and constraints, and don't think there'll be a significant performance advantage/disadvantage of any among those to the others. Definitely get the one that does it for you aesthetically, & enjoy.
Yeah, sorry - I know it's difficult to judge intonation via text. I've gone with the Elac - it seemed to be the one most people had cited, plus it offered even more of an increase in performance over the Polk. With the toss-up between Klipsch/Elac - I like Elac's cleaner design better, it was less expensive, smaller physical footprint, and I'm not going to quibble over a 1hz deeper frequency response that the Klipsch offered. Even though the Elac is only 2Hz below the Polk, the wattage was double that of the Polk sub without going up to the bulky 12". I certainly understand the more-than-what-you-think-you-need philosophy - I believe that this particular sub is actually more than what I think I need.
Originally Posted by RayGuy
The more you describe your wants and needs, the more I tend to think you will be happier with the second QA sub I rec'd, in a prior post. Assuming, of course, the aesthetics are to your liking (far different than the others options). With this choice, your bowels will be safe!
I wasn't able to locate a Canadian source (amazon.ca, for example, has QA speakers, but not their subs for some reason). Prices for buying direct on their site is USD afaik
, which means it's at least 30-40% more, plus duty, which brings it outside of my budget unfortunately. Otherwise, yeah... those are more in line with my personal design aesthetics, and may offer a bit of an improvement on the PSW10?
Originally Posted by bargugl
Beauty is really in the eye of the beholder. I do like the look of the Klipsch, but find the Polk and Elac in particular butt ugly. Wouldn't want those eyesores. Of course,in my case the person I have to get away with pleasing is my wife and she hates the look of having to see any drivers. She finds the SVS metal grill particularly ugly. So the trick is to make it blend in so I got an PSA XV15SE with base which looks less like a subwoofer and pretends to be an end table. Surprisingly, the black finish is much better to look at in person and I never have to worry about peeling or easily scratched veneer, which to me is the biggest eyesore. PSA is way above your price range and size request though, but just want to say that size does not need to be a limiting factor
I don't disagree with you there on the eye of the beholder. Truth be told - I don't dislike the look of the SVS SB-1000, I just wish they were available in different finishes, and lower in price in Canada. My other half doesn't care, which is nice, so I don't have to worry too much about the WAF (she really only cares if I'm happy with the electronics we have).
I'm getting increasingly tired of black electronics, I think (the Elac looks more like a 50-75% grey, which is fine) - and I say that even though I had just recently got a pair of Klipsch bookshelf speakers for my surrounds (would have easily gone with their "walnut" finish if it had been available, but 99.999999% of the time, retailers only carry the black). I occasionally see people sort of mock the "orange" in Klipsch drivers, but I think there's a sexiness/luminance to copper that you don't get with silver or gold, so I really like the look of the Klipsch speakers from that perspective.
Given the choice, though, I will always go for real wood veneer over anything, but those are often only available in higher-end lines well beyond my current financial capabilities. I can live with vinyl veneer, but you can't beat the depth/warmth of the real thing. Frankly, I was surprised that the RTi A1's/CSi A4 speakers I just got were real cherry veneer considering their price point, and I wish more manufacturers would offer that option in their lower-end lines. My next AVR will hopefully be available in silver instead of only black - if I could blow $5300CDN on an AVR right now, I would have the silver Denon AVR-X8500H.