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Flat, 6dB/oct, 12dB/oct, 18dB/oct:

LP 10 hz filter, correct?
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Nice! Which one did you prefer?
I wasn't testing them, just graphing. Choice of slope or TR curve is very much a combination of personal preference and differences in TR devices and seating. So while there has been almost universal love for the 6dB slope on MA (and MMA) setups, there is a wide variety of slopes/curves that people prefer on their particular HB setups. I suggest everyone experiment a lot with this to find what they like best, because different slopes/curves can feel like totally different setups or totally different devices. It's too important and variable to simply go by what someone else likes on their setup. I usually tell people firing up their HB for the first time to start with the 12dB/oct slope just because it seems to be a pretty good middle ground and they need to start somewhere, but I still try to encourage experimentation as much as possible, and I fear it doesn't happen as much as it should and people are missing out on their best experience by not taking the time to experiment.
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LP 10 hz filter, correct?
Yes.
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Thanks @Nalleh and @zeus33 ! Ordering items now!
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Over the last few days I've been updating and reorganizing my TR Curves post to not put specific emphasis on the 6dB/oct curves and try to guide new TR users better through the process. I think it's much, much better now, but if anyone has any feedback on how to improve it further, I'd love to hear it.
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I wasn't testing them, just graphing. Choice of slope or TR curve is very much a combination of personal preference and differences in TR devices and seating. So while there has been almost universal love for the 6dB slope on MA (and MMA) setups, there is a wide variety of slopes/curves that people prefer on their particular HB setups. I suggest everyone experiment a lot with this to find what they like best, because different slopes/curves can feel like totally different setups or totally different devices. It's too important and variable to simply go by what someone else likes on their setup. I usually tell people firing up their HB for the first time to start with the 12dB/oct slope just because it seems to be a pretty good middle ground and they need to start somewhere, but I still try to encourage experimentation as much as possible, and I fear it doesn't happen as much as it should and people are missing out on their best experience by not taking the time to experiment.



Yes.
Cool Aaron! I've been experimenting with a 15 lpf 18db bw and keep going between that and the 10/12.
It's definitely fun to see how it changes the feel of everything
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Oh yeah, the list is growing for “bat-**** crazy” around here huh!!! Including yourself …your are one of us now and approaching the “Have you lost your damn mind and gone completely TR mad?” status like the rest of us on the list

Yeah things can get crazy on eBay auctions!!! Darn, I wish you would have got’m all, ordered some replacement feet, greased'm all up with some fresh lube and ready to go …BK LFE full army style!!!

LOL …yeah I hear ya, there have been days where I could have accomplished a lot on the rig with additions or tweaks, but spent most of my time on here rambling with way too long of posts instead!!!

You can get'r done though ....you have the sickness within to dig deep, I know you do!!!
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New and improved!! Rcv'd 2 JBL's today and reconfigured set up. Now the JBL's love seat 4 Infinity's sofa while the previous set up 1 and 3 was great now its even more so. Watching 13 Hours at Benghazi sofa TR much better lots more wobble and shake, the love seat it has a mind of its own. Only slight issue it has to be wired at 8ohms per channel but with 2 more drvrs it makes up for it. As far as any upgrades at this point buy another nu3000 then rewire everything back to 4 ohms per channel. The nu6000 pushes these 12 quite nicely.
You're using SI 12's? If so, do you have an idea about how much difference in impact there is between those and the JBL's in hoverboss application, so I can get a feel for the difference?

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@Nalleh or others, what are you using to extend the connection to your tubes out of the HB? I would like to get some details for my next effort that works with a schrader valve. I bought some extenders for the schrader type valve, but they're only like 12" or so in length, so not quite enough for my purposes.

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You're using SI 12's? If so, do you have an idea about how much difference in impact there is between those and the JBL's in hoverboss application, so I can get a feel for the difference?
No I am using 4 Infinity 1262's for the sofa and 2 JBL CS1214's love seat.
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Thought I'd document some of the recent events of my TR journey for the group. To start out, I have not been entirely happy with my HB lately and had been considering options, including upgrading my amp and redoing my wiring, to name a few. So, along comes a deal for an NX6000 and I buy it thinking that might help me get more out of my setup. I modded the amp fans, completed my rewiring of my HB using some 16 gauge pure copper wiring and wire everything up (2 speakers per channel with @8ohm load). I start messing around with the amp gain, mdsp gain and curves, etc. Seems I still can send the amp into protect mode, so I keep tweaking until it's at a decent level and stable, but not really happy after spending 400 bucks and basically getting similar results as when I was running bridged on the 3000 @4ohm s. So that is what I would consider a loss. So, being frustrated with my HB (and contemplating taking an axe to it ala @SBuger ), I decided to refocus my efforts on other aspects of my system, namely my BB an MBK. I had been running them on one channel each of an NX3000 and just recently switched them to their own NX3000 (bridging for both to give them max power). I start playing and testing and they sound ok, not much different than before, so start playing with amp gain and mdsp gain and get them hitting much harder, but still not quite right or where I want them to be. So, thinking about the curves, I decide I want to play around with some peaks that might help bring out a better mid bass kick drum type of sound from them (I am running them both on the same mdsp output). I add a peak at 30Hz, 7db, q0.8 and a peak of 50Hz, 4db, q0.8 and wow, what a major night and day improvement! Ran through a bunch of test/demo scenes in Hobbs and Shaw and the BB/MBK combo was just crushing it! Now we are getting somewhere. This one was a win! So, next day, I'm taking a walk and thinking about what I need to do with the HB. I measured my seat frames and they are only 20 inches deep, so not able to add a more JBLs... unless, I build up a 2x4 frame and put plywood on top of that, then I might be able to squeeze in another row of JBLS... yep, I'm thinking that is what I need to do, so I order some JBL's, some maxxis tubes, and start planning. Then I read the post from Aron about the NX6000 being reverse polarity, so I figure I can change that tonight but not going to be doing any serious testing since I think I know where I need to go with the HB. Fast forward to last night, and I go into the NX6000 settings and change polarity to 180 degrees. But, before that, I change the amp from Dual to Stereo (not knowing the difference, I figure Stereo is where I should be so can't hurt to try that change, right?). Then, I put in Hobbs and Shaw for a quick test of the changes and OMG, what the heck just happened? Everything was lights out awesome! This is what I was hoping I would get with the amp upgrade! So, I'm rolling through the scenes and get to the elevator drop, and dam, it just crushes! I am smiling big time! So, I keep rolling and everything is just hitting on all cylinders from all aspects of the setup. I get to the tower drop scene and the wife walks in and sits down just seconds before the tower crashes to the ground. I tell her you better hold on to something.... tower drops and holy schnikes batman, it's bonkers! I'm giddy and laughing and just in my happy place! I tell the wife "that's what I'm talking about" and she's like yeah, can I get a new husband because this one is crazy! I told her due to Covid no divorces will be allowed at this time! So, getting back to this, I now have several JBL's and tubes on their way to my address but I am thinking now that I might actually not need them? Man, it will be too tempting having them sitting around so I will probably go ahead at some point and do the upgrade, but I'm happy with the setup (today anyway) so maybe I just keep that in my pocket for a bit until I get mad at my system again and I can truly take an axe to it and rebuild!
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^^^ Awsome progress Mojo

I am over here thinking: ohh man come on, the inverted phase issue on the NX DSP models have been published TO DEATH!! HOW can ANYONE still have missed this ???

And BTW the phase issue is SOOOOOOOOO easy to test in the mDSP AND I AAAALWAYS do this test WHENEVER i do a change !!!!!!!!

Come on guys USE your mDSP functions and TEST what sounds best 😂😂😂😂😁😁😁


But anyway, awsome that you figured out the problem. And i will test your Peak filters, sound logical 🤓
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^^^ Awsome progress Mojo

I am over here thinking: ohh man come on, the inverted phase issue on the NX DSP models have been published TO DEATH!! HOW can ANYONE still have missed this ???

And BTW the phase issue is SOOOOOOOOO easy to test in the mDSP AND I AAAALWAYS do this test WHENEVER i do a change !!!!!!!!

Come on guys USE your mDSP functions and TEST what sounds best 😂😂😂😂😁😁😁


But anyway, awsome that you figured out the problem. And i will test your Peak filters, sound logical 🤓
Thanks @Nalleh ! Yeah, before I had the 6000D, I just didn't pay attention to anything related to the DSP models. Definitely should have done my due diligence and searched through the forums for more details before hooking it up, but I'm more a shoot first type person unfortunately.
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I now have several JBL's and tubes on their way to my address but I am thinking now that I might actually not need them?
So you have a few extra speakers sitting around.
How much trouble can you get into with that?

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[QUOTE=Longeze;59885908]You're using SI 12's? If so, do you have an idea about how much difference in impact there is between those and the JBL's in hoverboss application, so I can get a feel for the difference?[/QUOT

I have never bought any of the smaller drvrs from SI. I started off with 2 HT-18's sold those went to HST-18's and also bought two DS4-18s. If I were to base my thoughts on the rest of what Nick sells I feel you are getting your moneys worth. Nick has always provided me great customer service. Having said that personally I would use the SI 12's if I had them. I used the Infinity's since I have had them for a couple of years and now they are discontinued and bills being what they are the JBL's were considered ( when the Infinity's were gone ) to be a good replacement. Now I can safely say system is complete.
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^^^ Awsome progress Mojo

I am over here thinking: ohh man come on, the inverted phase issue on the NX DSP models have been published TO DEATH!! HOW can ANYONE still have missed this ???

And BTW the phase issue is SOOOOOOOOO easy to test in the mDSP AND I AAAALWAYS do this test WHENEVER i do a change !!!!!!!!

Come on guys USE your mDSP functions and TEST what sounds best 😂😂😂😂😁😁😁


But anyway, awsome that you figured out the problem. And i will test your Peak filters, sound logical 🤓
I assume the test you refer in the mini is to run inverted and not? I think you had mentioned this to me a while back.
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So you have a few extra speakers sitting around.
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I assume the test you refer in the mini is to run inverted and not? I think you had mentioned this to me a while back.
Yes, there is a button for each output in the mDSP to invert it, so super easy to test IRL. But i was actually talking about the whole process of delay, gain, EQ/curves, phase etc. If you simply "plug & play", you can litteraly get WORSE performance than before you even started !!

If you noticed, even "seasoned veterans" like me an @SBuger still find improvements just from a little settings change, and just look at what a difference @aron7awol s now famous TR curves did for performance for a lot of people. Just from a little tuning. NEVER ASSUME your setup is spot on without some (actually basic) tuning 😉

BTW: technically it doesn’t matter if you do the phase switch in NX or mDSP, as long as you save your setup afterwards🤓
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Sounds like you’ve made some great progress @m0j0 !!! Nice!!! I agree, those higher frequencies on the BB and MBK are super important to help bring a harder hitting, sharper and scarier feel in these movie mixes.

Also, like Nalleh said, don’t be afraid to really USE those functions on the miniDSP to test out what feels (and sounds best) …phase, curves, rolloffs, levels etc of each device while in the mix. I know you’ve tried a lot of curves and stuff already so I think we are preaching to the choir here but is worth saying again I think. IMO, the best thing you can do to dial in the feel you want from your system, is to play lots of your favorite demo scenes with laptop in lap and try A LOT of different settings real time with the mini to see what feels best for the majority of content (TR devices by themselves to get a feel of what they are actually doing as well, but most importantly with everything running). You may be surprised what you come up with that feels the best

Like for example, my BB JBL's not inverted while my MBKs are inverted (even though they are mounted on the same seatback platform).
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Sounds like you’ve made some great progress @m0j0 !!! Nice!!! I agree, those higher frequencies on the BB and MBK are super important to help bring a harder hitting, sharper and scarier feel in these movie mixes.

Also, like Nalleh said, don’t be afraid to really USE those functions on the miniDSP to test out what feels (and sounds best) …phase, curves, rolloffs, levels etc of each device while in the mix. I know you’ve tried a lot of curves and stuff already so I think we are preaching to the choir here but is worth saying again I think. IMO, the best thing you can do to dial in the feel you want from your system, is to play lots of your favorite demo scenes with laptop in lap and try A LOT of different settings real time with the mini to see what feels best for the majority of content (TR devices by themselves to get a feel of what they are actually doing as well, but most importantly with everything running). You may be surprised what you come up with that feels the best

Like for example, my BB JBL's not inverted while my MBKs are inverted (even though they are mounted on the same seatback platform).
When it comes to trying out different things in the mDSP, I'm like an ADHD person on crack. I have tried/saved probably 300+ curves so far. My problem was unfamiliarity with the NX6000D with DSP capabilities and quirks, but I'm coming up to speed...
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LMAO! Good stuff m0j0. Glad you got it sorted. Behringer really needs to fix that reverse polarity crap. Imagine how many people that are using them have no idea.
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LMAO! Good stuff m0j0. Glad you got it sorted. Behringer really needs to fix that reverse polarity crap. Imagine how many people that are using them have no idea.
Not to disagree but since before I got hooked into the TR I pretty much stayed on the DIY sub threads and there was quite a few discussions concerning the issue with the nuke 6000 and when the new nx6000 came out it was also determined the biggest change was the new look ( helluva a lot better than the futuristic design ) while the internals were exactly identical.
I also think the Behringer manual is worthless at best its vague and its posted power output is impressive actual tests prove differently. On the bright side considering the price its very lightweight seems to do well over time granted output is exaggerated it is a great amp for the money.

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Fast forward to last night, and I go into the NX6000 settings and change polarity to 180 degrees. But, before that, I change the amp from Dual to Stereo (not knowing the difference, I figure Stereo is where I should be so can't hurt to try that change, right?). Then, I put in Hobbs and Shaw for a quick test of the changes and OMG, what the heck just happened? Everything was lights out awesome! This is what I was hoping I would get with the amp upgrade!
Wait, so are you saying before you even changed phase, when you just switched from Dual to Stereo everything got way better? Hmm, I think the only difference between those modes is that it has separate settings for each channel in dual mode but only one shared set of settings in stereo mode. I wonder if there was some weird setting in there like a HPF when you were in dual mode?
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Wait, so are you saying before you even changed phase, when you just switched from Dual to Stereo everything got way better? Hmm, I think the only difference between those modes is that it has separate settings for each channel in dual mode but only one shared set of settings in stereo mode. I wonder if there was some weird setting in there like a HPF when you were in dual mode?
Yes, that seemed to be the more impactful change. You are probably right. I did have to redo the attack and release changes so maybe some other setting in dual that was causing an issue and went away when I switched to stereo.

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DUAL
DUAL (dual mono) mode routes each channel input, A and B, through completely
separate parallel signal paths with independent outputs for each channel.
Each channel may be processed with its own unique filter, equalization,
signal delay, and limiter settings.
STEREO
STEREO mode routes the signal from both the A and B inputs through a single
series of DSP modules. The parallel DSP modules process the A and B signals
with identical, linked settings (only module “A” parameter settings appear on
subsequent DSP module screens).

Read Aron's post then looked up the manual for the nx6000dsp. Not claiming to have all the answers but based on difference between Dual and Stereo you had issues in Dual but worked great in Stereo. Maybe I am reading this wrong but Dual has separate parallel signal paths and Stereo combines if that is the case something could still be wrong?? To me if everything is working properly the amp should not go into protect mode whether its in Dual or Stereo. At least the way I understand it the frequency maybe off but it still should work and even if the phase is 180 out it still should not go into protect. I have had issues with my SI DS4's being out of phase but the amp test amp from Bossobass 8000w has never gone into protect mode.
I am glad it appears to be doing great and its your equipment not mine but if it were me as it was suggested before I would break out the multi meter and do some resistance checks. Instead of checking each drvr disconnect the spkr plug back of amp and see what it reads. If everything checks out great then it could be a setting when it was Dual that was incorrect.

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Wait, so are you saying before you even changed phase, when you just switched from Dual to Stereo everything got way better? Hmm, I think the only difference between those modes is that it has separate settings for each channel in dual mode but only one shared set of settings in stereo mode. I wonder if there was some weird setting in there like a HPF when you were in dual mode?
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Yes, that seemed to be the more impactful change. You are probably right. I did have redo the threshold and release changes so maybe some other setting in dual that was causing an issue and went away when I switched to stereo.
Good catch, Aaron. Mojo, are you using one or two XLR input cables now (To input A and B respectively) ?

Or are you using just one XLR connected to input A?

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Good catch, Aaron. Mojo, are you using one or two XLR input cables now (To input A and B respectively) ?

Or are you using just one XLR connected to input A?
IIRC, both of those modes he used, Dual and Stereo, require two inputs. In order to go one input to two outputs, you have to use Biamp mode (and disable the default crossovers).
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Good catch, Aaron. Mojo, are you using one or two XLR input cables now (To input A and B respectively) ?

Or are you using just one XLR connected to input A?

I have 4 JBL's that I am powering with the NX6000D. I have two RCA cables coming in, one for Channel A and the other for Channel B from the mDSP output. For the output, I am running 2 pairs of 2 wired in series, one pair coming from Channel A and one coming from Channel B. Both pairs are running @8ohms .
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Got the VNF back on the sled I just went out in the garage and found the legs i made for them earlier, and used them to space them up for clearance between the hoverboss JBL magnets and SLAPS. Again: not pretty! But it’s just for testing



3" + clearance now, should be plenty.




You can see the HB JBL’s, the BK and the VNF/ SLAPS here, LOL.




Made another run with Qvibe, and it is really starting to get wild in the single digits, LOL. 142dB at 7hz ! ! ! (Martian airlock clip again)



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Well, even with all this the 6x hoverboss is just crushing it !! UN-BE-LI-EV-AB-LE ! The rest of the TR devices adds a couple dB each here and there, but they are simply no match no more for the HB, LOL.
And the VNF on top of sled adds the same SPL and punchy sound as before, not as much TR, but again, what surprises me is, how much SPL the HB adds! Not so much down low, but from 17-20hz it is very audiable, so it adds SPL to the rest too.
And luckily it doesn’t seem to be any cancellations between the SLAPS and the rest, either SPL or TR wise, so that’s good

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What angle on the miter saw did you you use to cut on your angled VNF array?
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IIRC, both of those modes he used, Dual and Stereo, require two inputs. In order to go one input to two outputs, you have to use Biamp mode (and disable the default crossovers).

Correct. I use biamp1 and disabled crossover on all mine, requiring only one XLR cable to each amp.


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I have 4 JBL's that I am powering with the NX6000D. I have two RCA cables coming in, one for Channel A and the other for Channel B from the mDSP output. For the output, I am running 2 pairs of 2 wired in series, one pair coming from Channel A and one coming from Channel B. Both pairs are running @8ohms .
Noted. If using both input A and B, then stereo or dual mono should not matter, so it had to be as Aaron said that some setting was different on one channel, making the total performance lower.


Another top tip for the NU/NX DSP models, which IMO should be considered mandatory(not regarding EQ/gains settings):

Upon first connection to the software:
Switch the phase to 180˚ and then link both channels.
If using single XLR input cable, then use biamp1 setting and disable crossover option, making one cable power both channels/ if using two input XLR cables, use stereo setting/ if seperate signals to both channels are wanted, use dual mono setting.
MOST important: SAVE this setup!! This is now the base config for all your future tweak on this amp Just use this config, make changes and save that to a new available spot.

Reason to save is sometimes when you connect to these amps, it resets all to factory settings, ereasing all your work!
And saving also "corrects" the inverted phase issue, so you don’t have to worry about it in the future
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What angle on the miter saw did you you use to cut on your angled VNF array?
20 degrees 🤓

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