Thanks Sheldon!! Great post and thanks for joining!! This thread has gotten more action than I thought it would and has been a lot of fun
Sounds like you’ve made some fantastic changes recently, even though it can be a lot of work. I so hear you on tearing up your room and then putting it all back together again. It can get tiring!! I’ve now done that to my room so many times that it’s ridiculous LOL. So, besides being pretty darn satisfied ATM and just enjoying a lot of content, that is part of the reason I’m taking a break for a while (maybe a long while), even though I still have 5-6 things I want to try regarding TR.
About the BK LFE’s and your current setup … Man, I’m sure your system is so insane in such an awesome way with the way you have it now that he BK’s may not even add much, or may even take away/distract from the experience from the way you have it now (did I just say take away?? WTH), depending on how they are setup and integrated. But then again they may, and then there it is again ..when is enough, enough LOL. As I’m sure you’ve read since you went through the whole thread, me and Nallah (a few others too) seem to just love them for that certain somethin’, somthin’ violent feel
But, there was a time not too long ago (a little before I started this thread) that I had trouble getting what I wanted out of them in the mix with BOSS or Subriser, and was I totally satisfied (so I thought lol) with SubRiser+MAs+VNF+Other subs combo alone and took the BK’s completely out for a while. I was thrilled, but something would not let it rest and keep them out (probably that Nallah guy nagging me!!
Hahaha). So, I got’m back in a with different settings and mountings etc, and they are now bringing what I have always loved so much about them to the mix. They are a different beast and have their quirks, but so amazingly awesome in ways as well. As with a lot of things in this hobby, finding how to bring out the best in something and mitigate the cons is the key. Sometimes just a few simple changes/settings can make all the difference in the world!!
For me, they are a must, probably because I crave a crazy amount of feel, and they can do this so well. So can everything else TR component wise, but like I was saying, the BKs are just a different kind of beast for that certain violent feel if you can get them right in the mix. I do like a TON of feel, so they are gold to me, even with everything else. But that said, I think part of the reason I like so much feel may be because I can’t handle a ton of SPL to help get this feel I crave and has been what’s pushed me down this crazy quest for the ultimate feeling Power House TR. I hardly ever mention it much here on AVS, but I’ve got a super weird/abnormal problem with my ears (other areas too, like some crazy form of fibromyalgia or something) that no doctor has ever been able to diagnose over the years. It’s basically extreme sensitivity to treble, boomy bass and high SPL. If I’m not super careful with taking precautions to this to keeping this in check, my ears can ache for days/weeks. Yeah, I know, that is royally messed up and ridiculous since HT is my absolute favorite hobby in the world. I’m about as stubborn as it gets, so I keep on a truckin and refuse to let it totally stop me lol. I just have to try hard to be smart about it.
So, a long story short, I do my best to keep all that under control to keep pain in check or even better, a non-issue, then bring on the TR feel to help make up for it. Surprisingly, it still feels balanced to me, which is all that really matters at this point I guess and am still able to enjoy the heck out of my system for HT. I’m truly grateful actually, that I’ve found a way to still enjoy this wonderful hobby, even though I’ve got you be pretty conservative in ways. HENSE probably one of the reasons I’m so obsessed with TR to make up for it and feels like I’m getting massive amounts of bass LOL.
So, I do still get a pretty good amount of room pressure from the SPL of subs in a small room and I love it, as well as maybe a little bit of the “skin crawling sensation” you get from your wall of sealed subs up front, but probably not near as much at my moderate listening levels. I’m getting to where I rarely go over about -15mv these days with subs not ran as hot as I used to to do for more feel. I think my favorite feel now that I’m able to get a lot of, even at these moderate to lower SPL levels, is a certain feel from the TR being at pretty extreme levels (and a big part of it coming from the BK LFE’s) is a feel that I’m just getting pounded by bass that can be felt a lot more on the inside of the body internally vs outside my body. On certain material and frequencies (like in the Venom Time Stamp post I did not too long ago), it just feels like it’s almost hurting my insides it’s so strong, like I’m just getting pummeled by MEGA bass. Yes, some of this is coming from the VNF subs parked behind me (especially Mid Bass chest slam) and moderate SPL, but most all other feel below MB is coming from the other TR devises (especially from the BK's). It still blows my mind sometimes that these TR devices can bring this kind of feel to such an extreme level and trick me into believing its real or coming from massive SPL bass!!! Yep, all these TR devices are a godsend for me!!!!
Sorry man, it wasn’t my initial intention to get into all that but guess I just felt like sharing some of it today since it's probably at least partially responsible for this crazy TR thirst I have LOL
Again, thanks for joining in on the thread and being such an inspiration to me with all this HT and TR stuff over the years!! I still remember reading about your impressions and all that with the JTR Captivators, Subversives, DIY subs comparisons you and Archaea did years back, plus all the GTG write-ups, along with all the VNF stuff as well. It’s a big part of what sent me down this quest to get the best HT bass and TR experience I could get!!
So, THANK YOU!!!
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, send that one Crowson that’s only giving you about 1/2 power back to Randy, he’ll fix it right up. You probably either burned the coils on it or possibly have what I had going on with my first two MAs where the springs got squished out on one side and they really took a performance hit. Fortunately, he fixed them right up to as good as new. Yeah, these things are so fun to have in the mix, especially for the single digit stuff. They help so much!!!