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Anything better than dual PB-1000 / single PB-2000 for the price (Canada!)

This will be for 90% HT, I have dual SB-2000s for my 2.2 music setup upstairs. Setup is Triad Bronze LCR in wall in the front, some Paradigm in ceiling speakers as surrounds.

I'm wondering if there's anything better out there for Canadian buyers, please let me know your thoughts! CAD$1279 for dual PB-1000s, CAD$1079 for single PB-2000.

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Edit: Also my wife has asked me to ask you all about in wall sub options. Though I don't feel like cutting more holes lol

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Unfortunately in Canada not likely. I just looked through four pages of Canuck audio mart and nothing in that price range will out perform the PB2000. One PB13U asking $1900 and a Funk 18.0SE asking $3500. I'd say the only way other than DIY is either 12"/15" Rythmik/PSA/HSU and landed cost will still be about $1600 Canadian. but will out perform the PB2000.

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Unfortunately in Canada not likely. I just looked through four pages of Canuck audio mart and nothing in that price range will out perform the PB2000. One PB13U asking $1900 and a Funk 18.0SE asking $3500. I'd say the only way other than DIY is either 12"/15" Rythmik/PSA/HSU and landed cost will still be about $1600 Canadian. but will out perform the PB2000.
+1 and your are a very patient man, to go through four pages.

While I know the PB13-Ultra was going for $2800 CDN, when it got discontinued a year or two ago.
I would be satisfied getting $2000 CDN, for both of mines.
As long the potential buyer would pay cash, and pick it-up here in Alberta.


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This will be for 90% HT, I have dual SB-2000s for my 2.2 music setup upstairs. Setup is Triad Bronze LCR in wall in the front, some Paradigm in ceiling speakers as surrounds.

I'm wondering if there's anything better out there for Canadian buyers, please let me know your thoughts! CAD$1279 for dual PB-1000s, CAD$1079 for single PB-2000.

Cheers all!

Edit: Also my wife has asked me to ask you all about in wall sub options. Though I don't feel like cutting more holes lol
Stay away from in wall locations. Subs are very finicky when it come to locations.
So where it might look better aesthetic wise, it might be the worst spot sound wise.
Here's a good read about sub settings;
Guide to Subwoofer Calibration and Bass Preferences
While long to read, it is full of useful information's. And normally require reading two or three time to digest everything. It is worth it.


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I'd try and be patient checking on CAM.... regularly. I sold my PSA xs30se with upgraded veneer (cordovan cherry) for ~1100.00cdn....good deals can be had... the gentleman who bought my sub....was coming from a pb2000...imo...it's the ultra or bust....going with SVS.

Here's a possibility on CAM... fwiw. Don't know where you live (in Canada) but I know selling or shipping sub is a pita. I sorta compromised with my buyer...worth a shot!

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Unfortunately in Canada not likely. I just looked through four pages of Canuck audio mart and nothing in that price range will out perform the PB2000. One PB13U asking $1900 and a Funk 18.0SE asking $3500. I'd say the only way other than DIY is either 12"/15" Rythmik/PSA/HSU and landed cost will still be about $1600 Canadian. but will out perform the PB2000.
+1 and your are a very patient man, to go through four pages.

While I know the PB13-Ultra was going for $2800 CDN, when it got discontinued a year or two ago.
I would be satisfied getting $2000 CDN, for both of mines.
As long the potential buyer would pay cash, and pick it-up here in Alberta.


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I'm in Edmonton area... More than I wanted to spend but... Also if you are in Cold Lake that's a no go. Let me know more! 🙂
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I'm in Edmonton area... More than I wanted to spend but... Also if you are in Cold Lake that's a no go. Let me know more! 🙂
I do live in Cold Lake, around 3 and half hours away.
While I do know it is over your budget, and I am in no rush to sell them.
I was more responding to @indebtbassfreak about the price, since it would be 2 PB13-Ultra for a total of $2000.
Not meant as an advertisement, but as a comment


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I'm in Edmonton area... More than I wanted to spend but... Also if you are in Cold Lake that's a no go. Let me know more! 🙂
I do live in Cold Lake, around 3 and half hours away.
While I do know it is over your budget, and I am in no rush to sell them.
I was more responding to @indebtbassfreak about the price, since it would be 2 PB13-Ultra for a total of $2000.
Not meant as an advertisement, but as a comment[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]


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I was very interested until I saw they were 155lb each lol. I'm not going to risk breaking myself moving them into my basement. That's more than I weigh haha
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I do live in Cold Lake, around 3 and half hours away.
While I do know it is over your budget, and I am in no rush to sell them.
I was more responding to @indebtbassfreak about the price, since it would be 2 PB13-Ultra for a total of $2000.
Not meant as an advertisement, but as a comment


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Good lord Darth,,,,, one he%$ of a deal if you sell them anywhere near that price.
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I do live in Cold Lake, around 3 and half hours away.
While I do know it is over your budget, and I am in no rush to sell them.
I was more responding to @indebtbassfreak about the price, since it would be 2 PB13-Ultra for a total of $2000.
Not meant as an advertisement, but as a comment[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]


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Good lord Darth,,,,, one he%$ of a deal if you sell them anywhere near that price.
Agreed, that's a hell of a good deal....having moved a buddies pb13u it's no easy feat... especially navigating stairs... you'll need 2 folks as you would with the pb2000 imo.
But the difference between those models would be well worth the effort...pending no budget restrictions.
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I was very interested until I saw they were 155lb each lol. I'm not going to risk breaking myself moving them into my basement. That's more than I weigh haha
I just moved 2 196lb v3601's into my basement and it was surprisingly not bad! Having a good moving dolly and my father to help made it all pretty painless.
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Good lord Darth,,,,, one he%$ of a deal if you sell them anywhere near that price.
The reason for such a low price, around my area. Selling high quality Audio gear. Is near impossible
I still have an AV8801 and JVC X-30 1080p front projector, collecting dust in there boxes.
But if I was selling, anything related to hunting or trucks. It would be sold within days

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Agreed, that's a hell of a good deal....having moved a buddies pb13u it's no easy feat... especially navigating stairs... you'll need 2 folks as you would with the pb2000 imo.
But the difference between those models would be well worth the effort...pending no budget restrictions.
Big +1
I would not try this myself, without a hand truck or movers straps (the one that fit over your shoulders).

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I was very interested until I saw they were 155lb each lol. I'm not going to risk breaking myself moving them into my basement. That's more than I weigh haha
I hear you loud and clear on this one, since I only weigh 128lbs. And just move one of my sub to the back of the room, from it's previous front location.
No lifting involve, just slid one corner at the time. Was it easy, no. Took me about half an hour.
Anything going through some stair, I would not even try. Unless using without a hand truck or movers straps, with minimum two people.
Or four people, if going by hand.

Since your thread got derail for your need. I would suggest for your $1200-1300 CDN budget.
To start looking around your area, for a sub or two. That would fit your need and budget.
Never know what's out there, and might find a ruff diamond price for a shiny one
And you can always come to this forum, to find out if it is a good sub or not

Good luck in your hunt, and all the best to you..


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The reason for such a low price, around my area. Selling high quality Audio gear. Is near impossible
I still have an AV8801 and JVC collecting dust in there boxes.
But if I was selling, anything related to hunting or trucks. It would be sold within days



Big +1
I would not try this myself, without a hand truck or movers straps (the one that fit over your shoulders).



I hear you loud and clear on this one, since I only weigh 128lbs. And just move one of my sub to the back of the room
I hear you, my Ex's brother lives there and is involved in a truck club lol. Same for me as i know of nobody else in my neck of the woods that is into audio like myself. The only + i have is when i do sell something its well priced and anyone knowing me knows i take care of my stuff and its good quality.

As for the OP,,, i cant suggest enough,,,,, to convince Darth to sell,,,,, best Canadian deal ever!!!
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I hear you, my Ex's brother lives there and is involved in a truck club lol. Same for me as i know of nobody else in my neck of the woods that is into audio like myself. The only + i have is when i do sell something its well priced and anyone knowing me knows i take care of my stuff and its good quality.

As for the OP,,, i cant suggest enough,,,,, to convince Darth to sell,,,,, best Canadian deal ever!!!
While it suck for living in a area that no else is into Audio. You are know to be the King
I respect the reason from the OP, and honestly. I am in no rush to sell at this point, the reason I not advertise-it anywhere. Since I still got to save $6000, for my next ones.


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While it suck for living in a area that no else is into Audio. You are know to be the King
More of an annoyance unfortunately as there is no way to tame the bass in my place from the neighborhood other than -22mv Next house (been looking) will be on a much larger lot.
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While it suck for living in a area that no else is into Audio. You are know to be the King
I respect the reason from the OP, and honestly. I am in no rush to sell at this point, the reason I not advertise-it anywhere. Since I still got to save $6000, for my next ones.


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Friends of mine sold last year,,, they lived in Holden dont know how far that is from you but they had to move back to BC. Well i'll be sure to mention you the next time anyone is interested in a pair of good subs. Well worth a long drive at that price!!
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I was very interested until I saw they were 155lb each lol. I'm not going to risk breaking myself moving them into my basement. That's more than I weigh haha
Well at least you found subs that "will" smoke the PB2000 for a grand a pop here in Canada!! I hope you reconsider and work something out with Darthray. There will be no upgrade itch after that!!
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Well at least you found subs that "will" smoke the PB2000 for a grand a pop here in Canada!! I hope you reconsider and work something out with Darthray. There will be no upgrade itch after that!!
Thanks for the compliment, especially from someone owning an Funk 21.0LX sub and Chane speakers


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Well i'm sure your PB13's will give my two Funks an output run for their money under 35Hz.
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I've put a note in asking about the final cost for a PSA V1510DF. Not sure what people think of this unit.
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It's a good choice or alternative to SVS. They'll likely give you a quote to your door....decent logistics network Tom has developed here in Canada. For reference....my PSA going back a few years...was ~2k cdn....but that was because of the upgraded finish.
You'll hear back from them or Tom fairly soon....

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It's a good choice or alternative to SVS. They'll likely give you a quote to your door....decent logistics network Tom has developed here in Canada. For reference....my PSA going back a few years...was ~2k cdn....but that was because of the upgraded finish.
You'll hear back from them or Tom fairly soon....

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Thanks. My wife is saying she only wants one sub so I guess I might be dropping the dual PB-1000 option.

Here is the setup of my rec room / "theatre", it's mostly finished but all progress stopped as soon as I got the JVC projector hooked up, haha. I previously had an SB-2000 near my temporary table for the receiver, and it was pretty good, but it's now moved upstairs and integrated into my 2.2 setup - added a pic to show for fun . I would likely put a box sub where it was. However I could also look at an SVS PC-2000 and place it near the wall behind the sectional, where the sectional starts to curve. As you can see there is wiring and plumbing for an eventual wet bar at the back below the projector, so I can't just put the sub anywhere behind the couch, it would have to be that corner. There's probably not great space for a box sub there either. What do you think would be a better spot?

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What do i think of it,,,,,,,,,,,,,, If you can afford it in your budget its a great choice. Very good performing product above the PB2000 and the best customer support in the business along side SVS. basshead81 has three in his system and is getting upper 120's DB's. Good luck if it works out!!

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Sooo... HSU won't ship to Canada? I saw their VTF-3 is on sale for $759.
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Sooo... HSU won't ship to Canada? I saw their VTF-3 is on sale for $759.
yes they will, call or email them

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Ok, so I got a few quotes including all shipping and fees (CAD$):

SVS PB-2000 / PC-2000: $1132 (but with 5 year warranty that is easy to deal with)

HSU VTF-3 MK5 HP: $1440

PSA V1510DF: $1535

Upgraded PSA V1512DF preorder price: ~$1621 (approx, but have to wait until end of Oct!)

PB-3000: $1943

Monolith 15: $2118

Dual PB-2000: $2152 (lol I don't think I should spend this much though)


The performance seems to line up pretty well to Canadian prices, no? With the exception of the PB-3000 and the Monolith 15 which don't seem like great values...

Bleh! Help!

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Alrighty, well after some thought, consideration and research I was able to snag a PSA V1510DF from the outlet centre for $100 off. Coming from a SVS SB-2000 previously used in the basement I'm sure this is going to be fun, lol. I am looking forward to experiencing a big ported sub in my basement for TV and Movies, and really appreciate the relatively small dimensions of the unit for what it is.

I'll report back with impressions!
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Alrighty, well after some thought, consideration and research I was able to snag a PSA V1510DF from the outlet centre for $100 off. Coming from a SVS SB-2000 previously used in the basement I'm sure this is going to be fun, lol. I am looking forward to experiencing a big ported sub in my basement for TV and Movies, and really appreciate the relatively small dimensions of the unit for what it is.

I'll report back with impressions!
Nice either that or the VTF-3 MK5 were the better choices

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Nice either that or the VTF-3 MK5 were the better choices
Yep, seemed so. HSU specified to me the following with my quote:

-For international orders, the 30 day tryout policy is voided
-Should there be any warranty services needed, the customer is
required to pay for shipping both ways

PSA seemed like a better choice and it will fit in my room better, and be better protected from my dogs.
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