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post #1 of 17 Old 09-21-2019, 05:41 AM - Thread Starter
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Hello everyone..
I would like to upgrade my home theatre system which consists of a Yamaha RX -V483 Receiver and a 5.0 Taga Harmony TAV-606 speakers.
The one missing over there is SW.
My place is 25 s.m. and my budget is about 600 Euro.Mostly used for movies.
Cause i live in Europe some of your suggested sw are not reachable or have a big price difference.
I'm thinking of:
1) Klipsch R-115SW at 620E
2) Klipsch SPL-120 at 500E
3) Klipsch R-112SW at 450E
4) SVS PB1000 at 600E
5) XTZ Sub 12.17 at 555E

Next step would be to change the whole setup,where i'll need also help cause i don't have the required knowledge.
I made a mistake with my first setup(Taga Harmony has to be the worst speakers ever made) and don't want to make it again.
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Of that list i'd rule out all the Klipsch (until their amps are more reliable)

The SVS is a 10" ported vs a 12" ported XTZ. All things been equal at the very least i would think the extension should be similar but you should get a bit more midbass with the larger 12" driver of the XTZ.
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Of that list i'd rule out all the Klipsch (until their amps are more reliable)

The SVS is a 10" ported vs a 12" ported XTZ. All things been equal at the very least i would think the extension should be similar but you should get a bit more midbass with the larger 12" driver of the XTZ.
Is Klipsch so much unreliable?
I though that R-115SW was a really bargain and had it my first choice.
It's almost same price with PB1000 but comparable to SB2000.
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Performance wise yes the R 115SW is quite good but lots of posts on AVS of failed amps.

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wow, That's really a big problem for klipsch..A lot of complains about its amp.
Surely, i'd like to avoid it.
So my next choice would be 12.17??
I like also pb1000 but i think it's very small for my place.
On the other hand,i don't listen too loud cause i have little children.
The max volume is at -30db, if it's relative with sub's size.
Is there any other sub i could check?
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If your properly calibrated and -30MV been your max listening volume,,, either sub will be plenty. They may have a slight difference in sound signature but at those listening volumes no need to look for more imo.
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Thanks a lot..
I'm going for the pb1000 which looks nicer to me.
Any opinion about the rest of the system??
I would like to go for active speakers..
Something like Focal Alpha 65..
Do i need a preamp to connect them?
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Why active speakers? Do you plan on using the full 5.1 or just two channel set up? Your avr would need XLR or rca pre-outs to work

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5.1..
That’s what was suggested to me from a AV store here in Greece..They told me that active speakers have a great value/performance ratio and would give me a greater sound for less bucks.
If I decided to go for Passive I have to change everything(included my receiver) and that would cost me more than 2K.
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I must be missing something,,, your avr has five powered channels so why would you need to change your avr for passive speakers?

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You're not missing anything,i'm not explaining it well to you..
I want to upgrade my existing setup so i went to a AV store as i haven't any knowledge..
They told me that my receiver is entry level and i have to change it so i can connect better speaker.
It would be cheaper and better to get to active speaker with a diferent setup.
That's the whole story..Maybe they see that i didn't know anything and try to get advantage on that.
That's mostly why i decide to ask here..
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Thats complete BS,, their just trying to upsale you. Based on your quiet listening habits, get yourself five passive speakers and your SVS and enjoy, try to buy something that has around a 90DB sensitivity . Go to the speaker thread and you will get great advice there on what to buy in your price range. I don't know what your speaker budget is or whats available your area but i'm sure for well under $1000US your sound system will sound great.
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Thank you once more for your help...
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My pleasure. I must make one suggestion,,,,,, try to get the best speakers (within your budget somewhat) so not only will they sound better than what you have now right away, it will future proof your overall budget (if) your in a situation down the road where you can dial things up more. If at that time you feel a need for an avr upgrade you will already have good speakers.
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Find a way to demo these, then choose the set that best appeals to your ears:

https://www.whathifi.com/dali/spektor-2/review

https://www.whathifi.com/q-acoustics/3020i/review

https://www.whathifi.com/mission/lx-2/review

or one of these:

https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/h...eaker-packages

None of the above will be a "mistake". More a matter of taste and usage. Oh, and as you have just learned, listen to the speakers NOT the salesperson! Your best option is to bring along a variety of music you know well, in a high quality format, and use them to demo the speakers. Adjust the volume control as you move on to each speaker, so you are listening at the same relative volume level (what you hear, not the number on the volume dial).

Lastly, they will sound different in your home, so be sure they can be returned without penalty (odds are against it, but better to be sure), just in case the wife doesn't like them, or whatever.
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Yes, all of them are available for a demo and that would be my next step..
My budget is about 1.000-1.500 Euro,so they are all on budget..
Thank you for your help
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Yes, all of them are available for a demo and that would be my next step..
My budget is about 1.000-1.500 Euro,so they are all on budget..
Thank you for your help
Let us know how your listening sessions went ...

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