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WHATCHATHINK? Sub(s) for MUSIC only, $400 max

This is for a 2 channel, music-only living room setup. Philharmonic BMRs, listed as 34Hz at +/- 2db roll-off. However, they are only 85db sensitivity and I'm powering them with a Pioneer LX502 which is a class D3 receiver with 120wpc...probably would be better off with an external amp to get the most out of them.

Right now the BMRs sound good, but don't have as much bass authority/presence as I would like...I don't listen to truly bass-intensive genres like hip-hop, house, techno, etc. though...mostly jazz, classical, and some acoustic/alternative rock now and then.

So, I am considering these options:
  • 2 x Sony Core subs, $200 shipped on sale
  • 1 x SVS SB12 on sale for $400 shipped
  • 1 x RSL Speedwoofer 10 regularly priced at $400 shipped

Now obviously the SB12 is the best performing (I think---correct me if I'm wrong) but am wondering if the RSL would have higher output due to its front ported design vs the SB12's sealed design.

The Sony Core subs are definitely weaker (115watts) but having two of them, positioned next to my 2 speakers, should provide a more even (flatter) frequency response, from what I've been reading. (In the best of all possible worlds I would be able to buy 2 x SB12 of course, lol.)

If I got the SVS or RSL subs I was thinking of nearfield placement to maximize output.

So, one strong sub in nearfield, or two much weaker subs by the mains? Or would the SVS or RSL be enough if corner-loaded, next to the FL speaker?

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For music, get the SVS and be done. Or save a little and get a Rythmik.
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I would go with dual JBL 550P’s for less than $400 shipped 😊

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Dont cheap out too much on sub(s), its much better to not use a sub than to use one or two bad ones. Also placement, next to the speakers may not be the best even if two.


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Also placement, next to the speakers may not be the best even if two.
Really? I thought that's the ideal for music.

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For music, get the SVS and be done.
Do you think a single SB12 would be enough for my space? Would nearfield be an absolute necessity?

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Really? I thought that's the ideal for music.


I assume this is placement related, same rules apply to music and home theater for sub placement, unless for some reason its crossed over very high but you wont do that so. There can be one difference, some place sub in HT for max output like in a corner but mostly the sub(s) should be placed optimally for an even frequency response.


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SB12-NSD ftw.
The simplicity of a single sub is very tempting, just wondering about sufficient output in my space since it's basically open plan.

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mostly the sub(s) should be placed optimally for an even frequency response.
Well, it's a living room so my placement options are very limited...wish I had the liberty of using a subwoofer crawl to pick the optimal spot but I don't.

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I am going to reiterate my recommendation of dual JBL 550P’s. At the sale price of $189 each shipped, the 550P is unbeatable—it offers SB12 class performance for less than half the price.
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The simplicity of a single sub is very tempting, just wondering about sufficient output in my space since it's basically open plan.
You mentioned that you "don't listen to truly bass-intensive genres like hip-hop, house, techno, etc. though...mostly jazz, classical, and some acoustic/alternative rock now and then". Sounds like you mostly just need a more robust bottom end. IMO the SB12 should do the trick.
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I am going to reiterate my recommendation of dual JBL 550P’s. At the sale price of $189 each shipped, the 550P is unbeatable—it offers SB12 class performance for less than half the price.
Thanks, am leaning that way right now...they are backordered until 12/14 which also gives me a little breathing space.
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You mentioned that you "don't listen to truly bass-intensive genres like hip-hop, house, techno, etc. though...mostly jazz, classical, and some acoustic/alternative rock now and then". Sounds like you mostly just need a more robust bottom end. IMO the SB12 should do the trick.
Well, just got off the phone with SVS. They said 2 x SB12 would produce "just moderate" output given my room dimensions, so one would definitely not suffice even in nearfield placement.

Hmm, another possibility would be to order one for my media room and move the RBH I-12 I currently have there into the living room...the media room is really quite small for the I-12, maybe 12 x 12 tops.

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Well, just got off the phone with SVS. They said 2 x SB12 would produce "just moderate" output given my room dimensions, so one would definitely not suffice even in nearfield placement. ...
I'm surprised they'd say that but, then again, what constitutes "sufficient output" is entirely subjective.

(FWI(subjectively)W: I recall demo-ing a single Energy S10.3 - 200W RMS, 21Hz +/-3dB - in my ~3,400 cu.ft. basement HT space and I was pleasantly surprised by what it added to the bottom end.)

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I'm surprised they'd say that but, then again, what constitutes "sufficient output" is entirely subjective.
Yeah, that's true.

That's why there's a part of me that simply wants to try out a pair of those ridiculously cheap $98 Sony Core subs.

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DIY out of your options Zorba?

Also the larger surface area of the SB12 should lead to more output than the Speedwoofer 10S, and even though there is the roll-off down low of the sealed sub, it should be DSP’ed so it’s flat to 18hz or so where they measured the F3 point.
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Well, just got off the phone with SVS. They said 2 x SB12 would produce "just moderate" output given my room dimensions, so one would definitely not suffice even in nearfield placement.

Hmm, another possibility would be to order one for my media room and move the RBH I-12 I currently have there into the living room...the media room is really quite small for the I-12, maybe 12 x 12 tops.
I think you would be fine. I don’t think they were really taking your application into consideration. Yes, the subs will see the entire room—but you are not using them in a HT application.

IMHO, a pair of SB12’s or 550P’s would be a very good match with your BMR’s. I don’t reckon that your BMR’s would go much past 105 dB at max. The SB12 is capable of 101 dB @ 31.5 Hz and 104 dB @ 40 Hz (CEA 2010). That’s an outdoor ground plane measurement from data-bass. Of course, the SB12 is not an output monster, but I don’t think you’re looking for that.

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SB12 has been criticized as a bit wimpy, so I would avoid that selection in that size room. As to one good sub or two lesser subs, one good sub is always the preferred method. You can always add one later, if you find the one does not fill out the room well. Frankly, if it were me, I would not pair those speakers with cheap subs, as they would just end up dragging the overall performance down to the sub's level.

Rythmik L12 or the ported LV12-R would be my selection for music reproduction. Yeah, a few more bucks than you want to spend, but worth it, even if you have to wait. However, if the wife will divorce you if you go over $400, then go with the RSL.

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You have very high quality speakers...I wouldn't pair them with a bargain budget sub. The SB12 is pretty much the lowest output sub ever tested on data-bass...which means fine for a small room or modest listening levels.

I agree, save just a little more and get a nice Rythmik sub. Add another some day if you feel the need. Although your room placement options may be limited, I believe your objective is to get the best sound quality. In order to accomplish this, I would strongly recommend getting a Umik-1 mic from MiniDSP, download REW, and measure your response. This will help tremendously with properly integrating your sub(s) with the speakers. Its a nice, very long term investment as well for the audio hobbyist as it is something you can always use over the years to tinker or improve things.

Placement options are often limited due to real life, room layout, etc. But I have found that when people in search of the best sound quality possible measure and find they have a dreadful response in the low frequencies with large dips or nulls, it becomes a bit easier to work on finding better placement. Or you might find that where you want to put the sub works well, and measuring simply helps dial things in better.

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Are you (or anyone else) familiar with this sub?
Yes, there have been several threads over the years regarding the 550P, both here and on other audio sites. At the sale price of $189 there is absolutely nothing that touches it—again, it has comparable performance to the SB12. It’s overpriced at full retail ($599), but a complete steal @ $189. I have yet to see anyone that is not pleased with its performance.

The SB12 extends a bit lower than the 550P (23 Hz vs 27 Hz), but that’s not particularly important for a music only system. The 550P is a sealed design, like the SB12. The SB12 has a 12” driver, while the 550P has a 10” driver, but the 550P has a bigger and heavier cabinet.
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I'm kinda looking for the same thing. Mostly music. ~$400 give or take a hundred or so.



I'd add the Polk HTS 12 to your list. $320 at both Best Buy and Amazon right now:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/polk-au...?skuId=6170709

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Su...tronics&sr=1-3



And the Polk HTS 10 is $220:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/polk-au...?skuId=6170705

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Su...tronics&sr=1-3

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It’s hard to argue with dual JBL 550P for sub $400 in a music only system.
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It’s hard to argue with dual JBL 550P for sub $400 in a music only system.

I haven't heard them but from what I hear, this would be the best combo in your budget for music.

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Thanks for all the feedback, guys. I pulled the trigger on a pair of the 550s yesterday. JBL lists them as "backordered until 12/14" so I'll post my impressions then. Am hoping I won't have to use their free return shipping, since these things weigh 50lbs each!

Actually I plan to take one out of the box and see if it suffices by itself before opening the second box, so we'll see... Another forumite, Geoff @gajCA swears that he's quite happy with just a pair of cheap Yamaha 8" subs in his music setup (even cheaper/smaller than the Sony Core subs!) ... which is what got me wondering about the Sonys.

Also, I plan to compare the performance of my RBH I-12 by itself in the LR vs 1 or 2 of the JBLs...who knows I might end up keeping the RBH there, moving one of the JBLs to the small media room, and sending back the second JBL. Choices, choices...we're lucky to have such first world problems!
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I would of went with the SB12NSD. I had a couple JBL ES250 12" subs that I used with my Touch tunes juke boxes and the amps didn't last. I have had much better luck with Polk subs on the lower tier products. SVS also gives you much better product support and warranty.

Far as performance, my experience is that the SB12 it produces a bit more output then Data-bass.com outdoor testing shows placed in room. I am using one in my den which is not that large(10x12x8) but it is open to larger spaces.


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Thanks for all the feedback, guys. I pulled the trigger on a pair of the 550s yesterday.
I was going to say get those and the SVS if you could to compare. However, two subs will give you more coverage. I hope they work out for you.

Interesting thread here: https://forums.audioholics.com/forum...review.108994/
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I would of went with the SB12NSD. I had a couple JBL ES250 12" subs that I used with my Touch tunes juke boxes and the amps didn't last. I have had much better luck with Polk subs on the lower tier products. SVS also gives you much better product support and warranty.

Far as performance, my experience is that the SB12 it produces a bit more output then Data-bass.com outdoor testing shows placed in room. I am using one in my den which is not that large(10x12x8) but it is open to larger spaces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEd8SGJJGHU
Yeah, I have read a few anecdotes of people having issues with the JBL sub amps, which is somewhat surprising in the case of the 550p since it's a class D amp which should be more durable.

Am curious, how hard do you push your subs? I will be using mine mainly for bass presence than any real slammin' and jammin' so I am keeping my fingers crossed this will prolong their lifespan.

Also, how close do you sit to your SB12? It looks like a desktop setup so you're in nearfield position?

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