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Decided for the Monolith THX 10, instead of the PB-1000, did I make a good choice?

I was in the market for my first subwoofer ever, and after too research, I ended up going with the Monolith THX 10, instead of the SVS PB-1000, because supposedly should be a slightly a better sub and it had $50 off for Black Friday.

However, I’m having that guilt and being doubtful after spending a lot of money ($450) on one speaker. So, I just wanted to ask for different opinions about if I made the right call.

I know there’s the PB12-NSD deal and other better subs that cost a little more, but the physical size of the sub because of the space was a factor to narrow it down to the Monolith THX 10 and PB-1000.
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I haven't heard either one, but from reviews, you made a good choice.

The Monoliths are supposed to be made better than the lower end SVS subs, aside from their sound output differences.
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Stop, just stop. You made a decision and until you get the item and listen to it, all speculation is counter-productive.


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I haven't heard either one, but from reviews, you made a good choice.

The Monoliths are supposed to be made better than the lower end SVS subs, aside from their sound output differences.
Appreciate the feedback.
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You're right about all speculation is counter-productive.

Thanks,
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You made a solid choice. Now if you were talking a pb2000 that would have been a tougher call.
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The Monolith 10 is comparable to the PB12 NSD in performance more than the PB1000


IMO you made the right choice

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I just picked up a Monolith 10 over the PB12NSD for Black Friday.
I think it is a great sub and I read every review and looked at the CEA numbers for the subs.
For me the $50 savings and build quality on the Monolith was worth it.


Anyway the sub works great and it basically sounds like "nothing" it has no negative sound attributes at all and blends in perfectly. Honestly you might be a bit underwhelmed at first if you aren't used to a flat low distortion subwoofer.


This is my first high end vented sub and I think I'm sold. It sounds like a sealed subwoofer with extra output down low.
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Both are good options but here is some food for though. Most enthusiasts that start with these 4-600.00 range subs end up upgrading 2-3 times before they are satisfied. The reason being these entry level ID subs are low distortion which actually makes them sound not as loud compared to the box store budget subs. So to get low distortion, deep extension, and palpable mid bass output, it takes a couple higher end 12-15" subs.

If I am looking at subs for my HT in 2019, I would be looking at Mono 12 or PB3000 minimum if we are looking at Monprice and SVS products. A pair of Mono 10's or PB12's would work as well, but neither will be enough imo for a single sub. One reason for example is that 1 sub normally needs a lot of EQ to provide a fairly flat response and EQ eats up a subwoofers overall headroom pretty fast.
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Both are good options but here is some food for though. Most enthusiasts that start with these 4-600.00 range subs end up upgrading 2-3 times before they are satisfied. The reason being these entry level ID subs are low distortion which actually makes them sound not as loud compared to the box store budget subs. So to get low distortion, deep extension, and palpable mid bass output, it takes a couple higher end 12-15" subs.

If I am looking at subs for my HT in 2019, I would be looking at Mono 12 or PB3000 minimum if we are looking at Monprice and SVS products. A pair of Mono 10's or PB12's would work as well, but neither will be enough imo for a single sub. One reason for example is that 1 sub normally needs a lot of EQ to provide a fairly flat response and EQ eats up a subwoofers overall headroom pretty fast.

I tend to agree with basshead81 here. I should maybe have given a bit more info. My use case for the Monolith 10 is in my office where I am sitting close enough to touch it. It will see mostly music and video game use and reference level playback is not necessary. I still am very impressed with it. It is a excellent well built sub, but yeah any single driver 10 or 12 inch sub is going to have some limits.



I have a pair of PSA S3000i in my proper home theater.
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Don't second guess. By all accounts the Monolith is an excellent sub, made even better by the BF deal. It may seem like a lot of money for a single speaker but I think $500 is about minimum for a quality sub, and the Monolith is often regarded as the best $500 sub on the market. I'm a DIY fan too, but even a single VBSS and Behringer NX1000D is going to run about $500. And think of it this way, I bought a NHT SubOne in 2003 and I still use it today in my living room. There is no reason you can't enjoy this sub for years to come.

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I own both the PB-1000 and Monolith THX Select 10, as well as previously owning a pair of PB12-NSD's and PC12-NSD's. With the SVS PB12-NSD currently being $500, I would go with the PB12 over the Monolith 10. Now the Monolith is a bit smaller, but it will choke a bit when LFE stresses it and it will chuff. However, if you can't fit a PB12 due to space constraints, then I would opt for the Monolith 10 over the PB-1000.
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