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post #1 of 78 Old 12-10-2019, 01:12 PM - Thread Starter
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Outlaw Holiday Sale: X-13 $999 X-12 $499 Free shipping!

Outlaw Holiday Sale:

X-13 $999 Free shipping!
X-12 $499 Free shipping!


https://www.outlawaudio.com/mofcart/cmny2019.html

*note Outlaw usually pro-rates the free shipping ($60 US value) for International customers.
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$499, shipped, for the Ultra-X12 is ridiculously good.
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For any Canadian inquiring/wondering this would run you $900 CAD all in (taxes/duties/shipping) if you use your own brokerage services like www.baycitybrokers.ca

this is only $125 more than a PB1000 or $335 less than a PB2000 would cost you from electronicsforless etc.

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$499, shipped, for the Ultra-X12 is ridiculously good.


Was wondering what folks thought about this sub. 499 seems like a great deal but haven’t heard too much about these vs Hsu svs rythmik competitors
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Was wondering what folks thought about this sub. 499 seems like a great deal but haven’t heard too much about these vs Hsu svs rythmik competitors

Almost identical to the VTF-2 MK5 in performance/port tune/tuning option but with 1-2db less in max ouput.
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Almost identical to the VTF-2 MK5 in performance/port tune/tuning option but with 1-2db less in max ouput.

Good to know. Getting 2 of these for the price of 1 X-13 is hard to argue! I’m sure the bigger sub goes lower but....
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Damn! Why, when I almost had my mind made up, did yet another good option present itself!
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Almost identical to the VTF-2 MK5 in performance/port tune/tuning option but with 1-2db less in max ouput.

Good to know. Getting 2 of these for the price of 1 X-13 is hard to argue! I’️m sure the bigger sub goes lower but....
They are pretty damn capable if positioned properly, mine are both placed within 8ft of my MLP (opposite corners)

My dual x12's hit 103 db at 15hz at my MLP in max extension mode but that's a near reference levels and their is some chuffing at those levels. I Run then in max output (dual port mode) because of the size of my room though (semi open room total roughly 5000 cu.ft.).

In Dual port mode I still get 100+db at 18.5hz and zero chuffing so far but it drops off a cliff below 18hz in max output mode !
From 22hz to 60hz(crossed over @ 60hz) I get between 109.5-115.5db.
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I have a little over $2,000 in my audio savings fund and two X-13's are very tempting.

Currently running an X-12 and LFM-1.

Music is my #1 priority, so sub 20 Hz output is not really a priority for me.

Based on the review tests and THX Ultra certification, I expect that two X-13's would sound super clean and have a lot of headroom for music in our roughly 17' x 27' x 8' basement media room. Perhaps endgame subs for this room and our use (mainly music and concert discs).

I know there are some other great subs in the $1,000 range, but the X-13 at $1,000 seems to be a top contender if one prizes high output and very low distortion above around 20 Hz.

Talk me out of it!


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I have a little over $2,000 in my audio savings fund and two X-13's are very tempting.

Currently running an X-12 and LFM-1.

Music is my #1 priority, so sub 20 Hz output is not really a priority for me.

Based on the review tests and THX Ultra certification, I expect that two X-13's would sound super clean and have a lot of headroom for music in our roughly 17' x 27' x 8' basement media room. Perhaps endgame subs for this room and our use (mainly music and concert discs).

I know there are some other great subs in the $1,000 range, but the X-13 at $1,000 seems to be a top contender if one prizes high output and very low distortion above around 20 Hz.

Talk me out of it!


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@ $999 I don't think anything plays as clean or deep as the X-13 (96.9dB @ 12.5hz, 1 port mode). A Pair of X13's would be capable of 102.9dB theoretically which is no small feat!

https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofe...3/measurements

Only the Monolith 15 & Rythmik FV15HP can match/exceed it for extension but they also cost $300 more ($600 with duals)

Hard to pass up at $999 IMO.
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Hmmm, another thought, for $1000, I could add 2 more X-12's, so that would be 3 X-12's and an LFM-1!

The challenge would be integrating/calibrating 4 subs with only XT-32, unless I would stack them in the current spots! Not sure that would work too well.


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Outlaw Holiday Sale: X-13 $999 X-12 $499 Free shipping!

Sorry Adam but not enough bass
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Outlaw Holiday Sale:

X-13 $999 Free shipping!
X-12 $499 Free shipping!


https://www.outlawaudio.com/mofcart/cmny2019.html

*note Outlaw usually pro-rates the free shipping ($60 US value) for International customers.
These are an awesome deal, especially the Ultra X-13.

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Sorry Adam but not enough bass
Haha, you are probably right, lol.

Seriously though, if my Marantz processor had SubEQ HT with 4 discrete sub outputs, I probably would have already added 2 more subs, for a total of 4. I like the idea of spreading the subwoofer load over 4 units to decrease the demand on each unit and to even the response. Guess I feel that the less a driver is taxed, the cleaner it will perform because distortion increases with excursion amplitude.

I don't consider myself a basshead and don't listen to bass-centric music, or really get into LFE effects in movies. For me, it's about tight, punchy kick drums and toms, and bass guitar licks that have that addictive growl, definition, and depth. My current 5.1 system is pretty satisfying in this regard, but I feel it could be better if I went with better dual subs or added more subs to the current ones.

There is always "mo better" when it comes to bass, I feel.


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Hmmm, another thought, for $1000, I could add 2 more X-12's, so that would be 3 X-12's and an LFM-1!

The challenge would be integrating/calibrating 4 subs with only XT-32, unless I would stack them in the current spots! Not sure that would work too well.


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XT32 only helps to set independent levels and distance but the subs are always calibrated together as a single channel. With 4 subs you would split each sub out and group the subs that are closest in distance. With a common placement of 4 subs in 4 corners you would group the front subs and rear subs. Unless subs are all very different in distance to MLP there will be no major issue. You could always add a mini DSP 2x4 hd if there was a real problem.
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XT32 only helps to set independent levels and distance but the subs are always calibrated together as a single channel. With 4 subs you would split each sub out and group the subs that are closest in distance. With a common placement of 4 subs in 4 corners you would group the front subs and rear subs. Unless subs are all very different in distance to MLP there will be no major issue. You could always add a mini DSP 2x4 hd if there was a real problem.
Interesting, in my case, the current 2 subs are in the front of the room but not equidistant to the MLP. I would have to measure, but I would guess that one of them is 2-3 feet closer to the MLP.

If I were to add 2 more subs, they would have to be roughly mid-wall in the room (roughly even with the couch in the MLP), but one sub would also be 2-3 feet closer to the MLP. Both mid-wall subs would be closer to the MLP than the front subs.

I figured that this scenario would confuse the heck out of XT32.

Maybe not? Could this work to improve bass frequency response evenness and headroom?


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Interesting, in my case, the current 2 subs are in the front of the room but not equidistant to the MLP. I would have to measure, but I would guess that one of them is 2-3 feet closer to the MLP.

If I were to add 2 more subs, they would have to be roughly mid-wall in the room (roughly even with the couch in the MLP), but one sub would also be 2-3 feet closer to the MLP. Both mid-wall subs would be closer to the MLP than the front subs.

I figured that this scenario would confuse the heck out of XT32.

Maybe not? Could this work to improve bass frequency response evenness and headroom?


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Since most AVRs only have up to 2 sub outs this is how most would set up > 2 subs other than using something like a mini dsp. Many use dual subs split off one sub out which is the same concept and how it was always done before avrs had independent sub outs. It would likely be beneficial to run a quick Audyssey calibration from just the MLP for each sub independently to set gains equally and calculate distances. For each sub group you would average the distances and change the distance post full calibration if needed.
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Since most AVRs only have up to 2 sub outs this is how most would set up > 2 subs other than using something like a mini dsp. Many use dual subs split off one sub out which is the same concept and how it was always done before avrs had independent sub outs. It would likely be beneficial to run a quick Audyssey calibration from just the MLP for each sub independently to set gains equally and calculate distances. For each sub group you would average the distances and change the distance post full calibration if needed.
Thanks for the informative input. I get what you are saying and kind of forgot that SubEQ HT sets distances and levels independently for 2 subs, but only applies a single set of room correction filters.

So, with 4 subs, one would lose the independent per-sub distance and level adjustment. But, one would gain headroom (reduced output demand on individual subs) and should gain some frequency response smoothing natively vs. 2 subs (which should also make the room correction filters less aggressive).

Seems like running 4 subs with SubEQ HT should net benefits vs. the standard 2 subs with SubEQ HT.

Seem plausible?

I am probably oversimplifying because I have never dug into the “next level” sub integration knowledge and techniques using REW, miniDSP, etc.

Perhaps I'll post this topic in the Audyssey forum to try to get some feedback and experiences from folks running 4 subs with SubEQ HT.


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This is sorely tempting. Solid performance and, IMO, some of the better-looking options out there.
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Yes, I own the "previous" version of the X12, the LFM-1 and it is an excellent sub and now going on 6 years of flawless performance! For whatever reason, Outlaw doesn't get much love on AVS, but they make excellent subs!
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Yes, I own the "previous" version of the X12, the LFM-1 and it is an excellent sub and now going on 6 years of flawless performance! For whatever reason, Outlaw doesn't get much love on AVS, but they make excellent subs!
Thats probably because the HSU VTF 2 mk5 (its twin brother) cost $80 less when the X12 goes for retail ($679)

Although the X12 has better bracing than the HSU and doesn't have any resonance issues like the HSU people value pure SPL above all. (I understand 100%)

IMO the X12 has a higher quality build and outlaw amps have generally been more reliable. Aesthetically they are nicer too.

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Thanks for the informative input. I get what you are saying and kind of forgot that SubEQ HT sets distances and levels independently for 2 subs, but only applies a single set of room correction filters.

So, with 4 subs, one would lose the independent per-sub distance and level adjustment. But, one would gain headroom (reduced output demand on individual subs) and should gain some frequency response smoothing natively vs. 2 subs (which should also make the room correction filters less aggressive).

Seems like running 4 subs with SubEQ HT should net benefits vs. the standard 2 subs with SubEQ HT.

Seem plausible?

I am probably oversimplifying because I have never dug into the “next level” sub integration knowledge and techniques using REW, miniDSP, etc.

Perhaps I'll post this topic in the Audyssey forum to try to get some feedback and experiences from folks running 4 subs with SubEQ HT.


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You can calibrate 4 subs with XT32 if the subs are placed equidistant from the MLP. I have no issues calibrating 3 subs. Sub out 1 connects to the odd sub furthest away from MLP, Sub out 2 connects to both near field subs that are equidistant from the MLP via y adapters.
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You can calibrate 4 subs with XT32 if the subs are placed equidistant from the MLP. I have no issues calibrating 3 subs. Sub out 1 connects to the odd sub furthest away from MLP, Sub out 2 connects to both near field subs that are equidistant from the MLP via y adapters.
Yes, that seems to be the consensus - cool.

If I go this route and add 2 X-12s (still on the fence), my current X-12 and LFM-1 would stay in the front, 12.5 and 11.5 feet from the MLP, respectively.

The 2 new X-12's would go on the side walls, roughly in-line with couch. One would be 7.5 from the MLP, and the other 6.5 feet. The front subs would be grouped and the side subs would be grouped.

The subs in each group would not be perfectly equidistant from the MLP, but folks have said that a 1 foot difference should not cause problems and that I should enter the average distance for each group post calibration.

Running a sub cable to the side left sub is an issue - part of why I'm on the fence. I will either have to run a cable across about 3 feet of carpet in a high traffic area and cover it with another small rug or something, or I will need to make a long cable run (40-50') out of the room into the unfinished portion of the basement and then back into the room (this is doable with some work).

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Yes, that seems to be the consensus - cool.

If I go this route and add 2 X-12s (still on the fence), my current X-12 and LFM-1 would stay in the front, 12.5 and 11.5 feet from the MLP, respectively.

The 2 new X-12's would go on the side walls, roughly in-line with couch. One would be 7.5 from the MLP, and the other 6.5 feet. The front subs would be grouped and the side subs would be grouped.

The subs in each group would not be perfectly equidistant from the MLP, but folks have said that a 1 foot difference should not cause problems and that I should enter the average distance for each group post calibration.

Running a sub cable to the side left sub is an issue - part of why I'm on the fence. I will either have to run a cable across about 3 feet of carpet in a high traffic area and cover it with another small rug or something, or I will need to make a long cable run (40-50') out of the room into the unfinished portion of the basement and then back into the room (this is doable with some work).

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run the 2 extra X12's with the outlaw wireless adapter.

I would use both of them on the same input though so that audyssey can set the delay's accordingly


http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/OAW4.html


You can order just an extra receiver kit for half the price, i would contact outlaw to make sure you can send 2 signals(subs) to 1 receiver(avr) though
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run the 2 extra X12's with the outlaw wireless adapter.

I would use both of them on the same input though so that audyssey can set the delay's accordingly


http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/OAW4.html


You can order just an extra receiver kit for half the price, i would contact outlaw to make sure you can send 2 signals(subs) to 1 receiver(avr) though
Like I need more 2.4 GHz interference in our house, LOL, with our wi-fi network and a Sonos mesh network. I would be a bit concerned about this, but thanks for the reco. Seems like two receivers (for the subs) should work with one transmitter (for the Marantz pre-pro sub out), since they sell additional receivers separately.

I am a hard-wire cable guy at heart, and always hard-wire for connections that I care about. If I go with cable, it will be Bluejeans LC-1, which I use for the current 2 subs. I don't expect a 40-50 foot run of LC-1 to be a problem.


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just ordered my 2nd X12 to pair with other X12 in our large bonus room.. 25x17x8 carpeted room with 5.1.4 set-up & one wall 1/2 open.

2nd X12 should really help based on responses i have received... great price at $499... wowza!!!!
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Just ordered two X-12's, so that will make three X-12's and an LFM-1 in the basement mancave media room, about 27' x 17' x 8'. Lord help me! Got some sub moving/calibrating and cable running to do over holiday vacation.

I was considering getting two X-13's and selling the X-12 and LFM-1, but decided to get two X-12's for half the money and keep the existing X-12 and LFM-1, since I have spots for the 2 new subs. The existing subs will stay put in the front and the two new ones will be midwall, in line with the MLP. Should be interesting and hopefully fun getting them dialed in and integrated.

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Just ordered two X-12's, so that will make three X-12's and an LFM-1 in the basement mancave media room, about 27' x 17' x 8'. Lord help me! Got some sub moving/calibrating and cable running to do over holiday vacation.

I was considering getting two X-13's and selling the X-12 and LFM-1, but decided to get two X-12's for half the money and keep the existing X-12 and LFM-1, since I have spots for the 2 new subs. The existing subs will stay put in the front and the two new ones will be midwall, in line with the MLP. Should be interesting and hopefully fun getting them dialed in and integrated.

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depending on the size of your room you should be able to set them to max extension mode no problem!

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@adam2434, seems like a great idea! Do you have REW? There is a room simulator that can help you see where the best options might be, based upon the metrics you define in the simulator.
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Just ordered two X-12's, so that will make three X-12's and an LFM-1 in the basement mancave media room, about 27' x 17' x 8'. Lord help me! Got some sub moving/calibrating and cable running to do over holiday vacation.

I was considering getting two X-13's and selling the X-12 and LFM-1, but decided to get two X-12's for half the money and keep the existing X-12 and LFM-1, since I have spots for the 2 new subs. The existing subs will stay put in the front and the two new ones will be midwall, in line with the MLP. Should be interesting and hopefully fun getting them dialed in and integrated.

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Make sure you give us an updated review.

Not many folks run 4 subs (especially the same 4)

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