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Best cable for SVS 3000?

Is the AudioQuest Boxer really the best option? Also, wondering which other brands/models would be good (under $150 for 1.5-2m) and how Pangea Premier SE rca-rca or Pangea XL Digital Coax would compare, thanks!
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Blue Jeans LC1 and call it a day would be my opinion.

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A good-quality, 2-metre-long sub cable should cost you less than $20. If you REALLY want to splurge, maybe $30.*

That said, if you're a self-professed "audiophile", you should consider spending no less than $25/ft. Unless you're adding Shakti Stones, in which case you can get away with cable @ $15/ft.**
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2683, although they can be fairly stiff.

No reason to spend more than 10USD for a 6ft subwoofer cable. Also look into Amazon Basics and/or Mediabridge.
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I use quad shield RG6. Left over from sat install. not very flexible but works great.
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I use quad shield RG6. Left over from sat install. not very flexible but works great.
This is the best and cheapest way to go.
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Any RG6 with RCA ends should work fine.
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I agree with the other posters saying don't spend over $20. Here is a nice one for under $6. Every bit as good of signal as the high dollar snake oil cables.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2683

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Get the BJC LC1 subwoofer cable. No reason for magical unicorn cables, but avoid the monoprice garbage. The LC1 will give you much better noise suppression to eliminate hums you get with cheap, garbage, race to the bottom of the barrel cables. It also has better build quality and very high quality terminals....you won't risk shorting your sub amps due to shoddy construction as happened to me and others with junk Monoprice cable. Many folks have eliminated hum by replacing bargain basement garbage cables with a good quality, reasonably priced BJC cable.

Or buy some cheap garbage, they might work.
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I agree with the other posters saying don't spend over $20. Here is a nice one for under $6. Every bit as good of signal as the high dollar snake oil cables.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2683

False, those cable are pure and utter garbage. You couldn't pay me hundreds of dollars to use them. I threw two of them in the trash after they shorted due to incredibly shoddy construction and blew the DSP amps in two of my PSA subwoofers. Stiff as hell too, good luck routing that garbage. Sometimes you get what you pay for...in this case....a 25 foot cable for $6.....which includes markup and profit.

Yes, I'm sure the rebuttal will be "nun-uh" I used them and their fine", but anyone who has been around here a while can tell you that *many* AVS members have had issues with them, and many have replaced them and eliminated noise and hum. A subwoofer cable is a very simple product.....defects should be extremely close to zero, and that is definitely not the case for that junk.
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+1 to @bear123 's rec for the Blue Jeans cables. These seem to be the most recommended on here.

I actually have the SVS Soundpath cable (8m) that I purchased from Amazon for much cheaper than what they're sold for on the SVS site and I haven't had any issues with it, so this could be another option for you as well.

Here are the links for both of these:

BLC (10ft)
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Jeans-Ca...1&rps=1&sr=8-3

SVS (2m)
https://www.amazon.com/SVS-SoundPath...jaz10cnVl&th=1


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[EDIT] After double checking, the SVS isn't on sale currently, but still a good option nevertheless.
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Blue Jeans LC1 and call it a day would be my opinion.
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+1 for Blue Jeans Cable LC1.
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Get the BJC LC1 subwoofer cable. No reason for magical unicorn cables, but avoid the monoprice garbage. The LC1 will give you much better noise suppression to eliminate hums you get with cheap, garbage, race to the bottom of the barrel cables. It also has better build quality and very high quality terminals....you won't risk shorting your sub amps due to shoddy construction as happened to me and others with junk Monoprice cable. Many folks have eliminated hum by replacing bargain basement garbage cables with a good quality, reasonably priced BJC cable.

Or buy some cheap garbage, they might work.
One more vote for the Blue Jeans LC1, been a very good cable with solid connection. And also is CL2/CL3 rated for in wall installation.


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False, those cable are pure and utter garbage. You couldn't pay me hundreds of dollars to use them. I threw two of them in the trash after they shorted due to incredibly shoddy construction and blew the DSP amps in two of my PSA subwoofers. Stiff as hell too, good luck routing that garbage. Sometimes you get what you pay for...in this case....a 25 foot cable for $6.....which includes markup and profit.

Yes, I'm sure the rebuttal will be "nun-uh" I used them and their fine", but anyone who has been around here a while can tell you that *many* AVS members have had issues with them, and many have replaced them and eliminated noise and hum. A subwoofer cable is a very simple product.....defects should be extremely close to zero, and that is definitely not the case for that junk.

If there are issues, then it is due to shoddy Monoprice QC and not the cable itself. This is coming from someone that has bought Audioquest cables before (and still use them). Other than the fancy jacket and quality connectors, there is nothing special about the cable itself. The funny thing is they have directional arrows as if electrons care about the direction of the cable.



For goodness sake don't spend any more money than getting a cable from Blue Jeans Cable - a 6ft cable runs about $24. They use Belden cable and Canare connectors that are truly professional quality.
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Amazon basics xlr works great for me for cheap. I am not a cable snob but I do use blue jeans cables for the others.

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False, those cable are pure and utter garbage. You couldn't pay me hundreds of dollars to use them. I threw two of them in the trash after they shorted due to incredibly shoddy construction and blew the DSP amps in two of my PSA subwoofers. Stiff as hell too, good luck routing that garbage. Sometimes you get what you pay for...in this case....a 25 foot cable for $6.....which includes markup and profit.

Yes, I'm sure the rebuttal will be "nun-uh" I used them and their fine", but anyone who has been around here a while can tell you that *many* AVS members have had issues with them, and many have replaced them and eliminated noise and hum. A subwoofer cable is a very simple product.....defects should be extremely close to zero, and that is definitely not the case for that junk.

Had some of the same issues with two 3 footer, they were stiff and the connection was flimsy as not very solid into the AVP and Amp.


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False, those cable are pure and utter garbage. You couldn't pay me hundreds of dollars to use them. I threw two of them in the trash after they shorted due to incredibly shoddy construction and blew the DSP amps in two of my PSA subwoofers. Stiff as hell too, good luck routing that garbage. Sometimes you get what you pay for...in this case....a 25 foot cable for $6.....which includes markup and profit.

Yes, I'm sure the rebuttal will be "nun-uh" I used them and their fine", but anyone who has been around here a while can tell you that *many* AVS members have had issues with them, and many have replaced them and eliminated noise and hum. A subwoofer cable is a very simple product.....defects should be extremely close to zero, and that is definitely not the case for that junk.
Any thoughts on the Mediabridge Ultra?

They're cheap. (Genuine Copper Clad Steel coax.) I'm using a 25' (7.6m) one with good results. (Touch wood.)
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Any thoughts on the Mediabridge Ultra?

They're cheap. (Genuine Copper Clad Steel coax.) I'm using a 25' (7.6m) one with good results. (Touch wood.)
I think if they work - they work - so if it aint broke,don't fix it. If you ever have troubles in the future the BJC LC1 is a very solid choice
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Any thoughts on the Mediabridge Ultra?

They're cheap. (Genuine Copper Clad Steel coax.) I'm using a 25' (7.6m) one with good results. (Touch wood.)
I like the mediabridge cables. Inexpensive and seem very well made. I have used up to 15ft in length without issues. Like others not a fan of the monoprice sub cables - very stiff. Right now I have 2 long runs (50+ ft) to the rear of my room and needed high quality shielding and something a little more low profile and flexible to get around corners. Went with Blue Jeans Belden 1505F which has been great.
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Any thoughts on the Mediabridge Ultra?

They're cheap. (Genuine Copper Clad Steel coax.) I'm using a 25' (7.6m) one with good results. (Touch wood.)
I tried monoprice, ended up throwing everyone away... I switched to Mediabridge Ultra(2x25ft and 1x15ft) and have had no issues in the last 4yrs. I still think the BJC stuff is worth the money but I wouldn't pay for anything higher priced then that stuff.
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Any thoughts on the Mediabridge Ultra?

They're cheap. (Genuine Copper Clad Steel coax.) I'm using a 25' (7.6m) one with good results. (Touch wood.)
Much better quality than the Monoprice, and have a solid connection from the design point of view.


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The subwoofer signal is low in frequency and narrow in bandwidth - so it's not terribly difficult for an RCA cable to carry.

The biggest check marks for purchasing any RCA cable for subwoofer use are:

  • multi-layer shielding to reduce RFI and other external sources of noise
  • directional shielding where it is tied to ground at the source side and floated at the receiving side
  • robust construction at the cable/jack union - we hand-solder these connections and the above posters are correct - cheaply built cables fail here first/frequently
  • gold plated center conductor and ground shield to avoid oxidation and loss of signal over time

Our SoundPath RCA cables meet the above criteria and are also a good value. The same can be said of any BJC product - I recommend them frequently to customers who need XLR cables or in-wall RCA cables (which need to meet CMP or similar rating for NEC fire code).

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I actually forgot about the SVS cables mentioned by Ed. While a little more costly than Mediabridge still reasonably priced and very well built with a nice braided jacket. I have several and really like them too. Even though they are nice looking they don't come in black or white so may not blend as well if in plain site depending on your room.
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Can i be a bit off topic as im also looking for a sub cable but dont know if i should buy 1 or 2. If i have a denon x4500 that has 2 sub out, do i connect both of that to the 2 rca of my PC13 ultra or do i only connect 1sub out using 1rca then use a splitter near the subs to connect the rca to the 2 rca input of the subs?
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Can i be a bit off topic as im also looking for a sub cable but dont know if i should buy 1 or 2. If i have a denon x4500 that has 2 sub out, do i connect both of that to the 2 rca of my PC13 ultra or do i only connect 1sub out using 1rca then use a splitter near the subs to connect the rca to the 2 rca input of the subs?
https://system.na1.netsuite.com/core...85391&_xt=.pdf

You connect a single RCA cable from the number one sub output of the 4500 to the right (also LFE) low level input of the PC13. Just the one cable, no splitters. That is the best way connect the sub to the AVR.

The 4500's two sub outs are for two separate subwoofers. (The subs are independent. The room correction software in the 4500 can assign different distances to two subs.)

The two inputs on the PC13 are for cases where the source has no LFE (low frequency effects) output, but just a stereo line-level output. In that case, the PC13 mixes the stereo signals to mono, and uses that. You don't need, or want, to do anything like that.
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I actually forgot about the SVS cables mentioned by Ed. While a little more costly than Mediabridge still reasonably priced and very well built with a nice braided jacket. I have several and really like them too. Even though they are nice looking they don't come in black or white so may not blend as well if in plain site depending on your room.
Very much agree

Between the SVS and the BJC, money wise. Both are a winner, for excellent cables for the money. The BJC do have the advantage, for those folks that do in wall/or in ceiling installation. Been rated CL2 (residential) and CL3 (commercial) rating, for fire rating. Been very important Insurance wise, not to have a claim denied.


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If I don’t need the cl2 ratings, is svs a better cable or are they equal in sound transmiSsion clarity/ interference shielding
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If I don’t need the cl2 ratings, is svs a better cable or are they equal in sound transmiSsion clarity/ interference shielding

A well made cable, is a well made cable.
Both are the same, sound wise.


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