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Question Buttkicker and amp questions

Hi - I made a post in the sticky Shaker thread but no-one answered so I'm hoping someone will notice here (if so I will delete the other post, to avoid duplicates):

My girlfriend just got me a Buttkicker Advance (BK4-4) for Christmas. I'm new to shakers.

My setup:
- Denon X4400H (125W), set up as 5.1 with Klipsch speakers, has Zone 2/3
- I don't have any stand alone amps.
- I also have an old unused htib AVR Onkyo HT-R550 (110W), has Zone 2
- 3 seat sofa
- 80% gaming Xbox One X, 20% movies

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1. Can I use the Denon to power the 4-ohm BK4-4?
(Note: I saw @pjp 's helpful posts about using AVR's LFE output back into the AVR's Zone 2's CD input to power a shaker, but I don't know if this being 4-ohm is an issue? https://www.avsforum.com/forum/usert...hash&hash=2860 )
2. The BK4 says minimum of 75W, max 400W. 75W sounds like a pretty significant load to hang full time on an AVR...? I imagine my Klipsch speakers are only using a few watts most of the time.
3. If an external amp is necessary - suggestions? Could something like a Outlaw 5000 or Emotiva XPA-5 home theater amp be a reasonable interim solution for the shaker, that I could later repurpose in my next home theater build?
4. Is there any reason I'd want a different brand or a Buttkicker LFE over the BK4?
5. I'm in a condo: I have neighbors below me. Will the shaker transmit noticeably? Are there effective ways to mitigate?
6. For gaming, I use Sony XM3 headphones plugged into my Xbox controller with Dolby Atmos For Headphones, and I turn the AVR MV to mute so the 5.1 speakers are silent. If I use the @pjp solution with Zone 2 feeding the shaker, will the LFE to Zone 2 keep the shaker active even if Zone 1 MV = mute?

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Hi - I made a post in the sticky Shaker thread but no-one answered so I'm hoping someone will notice here (if so I will delete the other post, to avoid duplicates):

My girlfriend just got me a Buttkicker Advance (BK4-4) for Christmas. I'm new to shakers.

My setup:
- Denon X4400H (125W), set up as 5.1 with Klipsch speakers, has Zone 2/3
- I don't have any stand alone amps.
- I also have an old unused htib AVR Onkyo HT-R550 (110W), has Zone 2
- 3 seat sofa
- 80% gaming Xbox One X, 20% movies

Questions:
1. Can I use the Denon to power the 4-ohm BK4-4?
(Note: I saw @pjp 's helpful posts about using AVR's LFE output back into the AVR's Zone 2's CD input to power a shaker, but I don't know if this being 4-ohm is an issue? https://www.avsforum.com/forum/usert...hash&hash=2860 )
2. The BK4 says minimum of 75W, max 400W. 75W sounds like a pretty significant load to hang full time on an AVR...? I imagine my Klipsch speakers are only using a few watts most of the time.
3. If an external amp is necessary - suggestions? Could something like a Outlaw 5000 or Emotiva XPA-5 home theater amp be a reasonable interim solution for the shaker, that I could later repurpose in my next home theater build?
4. Is there any reason I'd want a different brand or a Buttkicker LFE over the BK4?
5. I'm in a condo: I have neighbors below me. Will the shaker transmit noticeably? Are there effective ways to mitigate?
6. For gaming, I use Sony XM3 headphones plugged into my Xbox controller with Dolby Atmos For Headphones, and I turn the AVR MV to mute so the 5.1 speakers are silent. If I use the @pjp solution with Zone 2 feeding the shaker, will the LFE to Zone 2 keep the shaker active even if Zone 1 MV = mute?
I use 2 channels off an Outlaw Model 5000 to power 4 jbl 12 inch subs in a Boss mini riser, and the way they are wired they get about 60 watts each. How many buttkickers are you trying to power?
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I use 2 channels off an Outlaw Model 5000 to power 4 jbl 12 inch subs in a Boss mini riser, and the way they are wired they get about 60 watts each. How many buttkickers are you trying to power?
@m0j0 - Right now, I have one new-in-box Buttkicker Advance BK4-4 to power. If I really like it, I could see myself buying more of them in the future.
The BOSS mini riser you describe is very interesting to me, but right now I'm living in a condo I have for sale - so building & using a riser will have to wait a couple months until I have a new house.

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@m0j0 - Right now, I have one new-in-box Buttkicker Advance BK4-4 to power. If I really like it, I could see myself buying more of them in the future.
The BOSS mini riser you describe is very interesting to me, but right now I'm living in a condo I have for sale - so building & using a riser will have to wait a couple months until I have a new house.
Ok, gotcha. If it’s just one and you want to just play around with it without buying an amp, you could try powering off the zone 2 from the Denon, though I haven’t tried that so not sure how well it would work. If you can find a used Inuke amp that might be good to get or a used buttkicker amp. As for the BOSS, it’s a real game changer. You should definitely check out the hideaway theater thread where the BOSS was born. A lot of folks are building them these days.
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Ok, gotcha. If it’s just one and you want to just play around with it without buying an amp, you could try powering off the zone 2 from the Denon, though I haven’t tried that so not sure how well it would work. If you can find a used Inuke amp that might be good to get or a used buttkicker amp. As for the BOSS, it’s a real game changer. You should definitely check out the hideaway theater thread where the BOSS was born. A lot of folks are building them these days.
Your post nails it - I want to play around with the Buttkicker right now, if possible, with equipment on hand. Just not sure about 4-ohm aspect of the Buttkicker and if my Denon AVR will handle that appropriately. Then - as soon as I get my next home - it will be a bass feast in every way possible with everything being fair game - including more dedicated amps and a Boss riser!

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Your post nails it - I want to play around with the Buttkicker right now, if possible, with equipment on hand. Just not sure about 4-ohm aspect of the Buttkicker and if my Denon AVR will handle that appropriately. Then - as soon as I get my next home - it will be a bass feast in every way possible with everything being fair game - including more dedicated amps and a Boss riser!
The Denon will have no issues with a 4 ohm load.
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I use one of these bridged to power my bass transducers. It works great. Nice to have a volume control dial it in perfectly.


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I use one of these bridged to power my bass transducers. It works great. Nice to have a volume control dial it in perfectly.


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@fakerus : I see the Audiosource AMP100VS says it can bridge its two 50W channels and give you 150W into 8 ohms. Not sure what that implies for a 4-ohm BK4-4? What bass transducer (shaker?) do you have? Is it a 8-ohm shaker?

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TT are very demanding for power, I use two Outlaw mono block and still bottom out two TT once in a while.
https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/2200.html

Get something like this;
https://www.amazon.ca/Behringer-KM17...01959770&psc=1
And never look back, for enough power. This link is just an example, since they have many models to choose from.


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@fakerus : I see the Audiosource AMP100VS says it can bridge its two 50W channels and give you 150W into 8 ohms. Not sure what that implies for a 4-ohm BK4-4? What bass transducer (shaker?) do you have? Is it a 8-ohm shaker?


It says 60 watts into 4 ohms. 150 watts total rms. I’m running 5 4 ohm
Bass shakers with it with no issues.

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TT are very demanding for power, I use two Outlaw mono block and still bottom out two TT once in a while.
https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/2200.html

Get something like this;
https://www.amazon.ca/Behringer-KM17...01959770&psc=1
And never look back, for enough power. This link is just an example, since they have many models to choose from.


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@darthray - when you say they bottom out - what does that mean?
I saw the Outlaw mono block power ratings says it only goes down to 20hz - is that a factor contributing to bottoming out?
Power Output: 200 watts @ 8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, <0.05% THD; 300 watts @ 4 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, <0.05%
The Buttkicker BK4-4 transducer says it responds down to 5 hz.

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@darthray - when you say they bottom out - what does that mean?
I saw the Outlaw mono block power ratings says it only goes down to 20hz - is that a factor contributing to bottoming out?
Power Output: 200 watts @ 8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, <0.05% THD; 300 watts @ 4 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, <0.05%
The Buttkicker BK4-4 transducer says it responds down to 5 hz.
In short, you hear a loud clank. The TT magnet passing it's excursion normal playing, and the amp is no longer in control.
Meaning the magnet go out (just like driver), but the amp run of juice to bring-it back.


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How do you control the volume level
With a mono block?


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I use an old SMS-1, that was for EQ on subs back in the days.


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The best amp for the buttkickers is:

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-...018918&sr=8-12

It's also listed on the buttkicker website:
https://thebuttkicker.com/products/dayton-audio/

That amp will feed two buttkicker advanced or one LFE. Great set of features, plenty of power and most importantly no forced infrasonic roll off.

If you want something a bit cheaper:
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-...8019064&sr=8-1

I'm currently using the buttkicker advance with the dayton 250 amp. Note that this amp does roll off <20hz. Pretty good experience. I plan to buy the SA1000 though since it would allow me to run 2 advanced, one LFE or even 2 Crowsons in the future.

That amp will probably be your safest bet for any tactile transducer you plan to use in the future.
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That amp will feed two buttkicker advanced or one LFE. Great set of features, plenty of power and most importantly no forced infrasonic roll off.
@DarkEnigma , do you have an opinion on BK Advance vs LFE? My Advance is NIB, so I can still do an exchange.
The Dayton 1000 amp is within the realm of possibilities for me. I'm still learning, but it seems with low pass and high pass filters, it's especially designed to power subwoofers? Versus say an Outlaw 5000 amp?
Also it seems you don't wouldn't concur with me trying to power the Advance with my AVR, at least initially?

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@DarkEnigma , do you have an opinion on BK Advance vs LFE? My Advance is NIB, so I can still do an exchange.
The Dayton 1000 amp is within the realm of possibilities for me. I'm still learning, but it seems with low pass and high pass filters, it's especially designed to power subwoofers? Versus say an Outlaw 5000 amp?
Also it seems you don't wouldn't concur with me trying to power the Advance with my AVR, at least initially?
I've never tried it but I doubt an AVR would sufficiently power a transducer like the buttkicker.

The SA1000 is designed to power subwoofers, but it's exactly the kind of amplifier you'd want for a transducer.

Many regular power amps will decrease the output to the transducer below 20hz. The outlaw amp for example is rated between 20hz and 20Khz and most likely attenuates frequencies below 20hz, which you won't want if you intend to use all of the extension of the buttkicker (down to "5" hz). Subwoofer amps tend to have very shallow or no fall off below 20hz.

Generally speaking you also won't want the transducer to respond to frequencies above 40-50hz (although this is technically subjective) because it will start to feel unnatural and detract from the experience. The low pass filters usually only present on subwoofer amplifiers will allow you to do this.

As for the LFE versus advance it depends on what you're trying to shake and how well you can mount the buttkicker. I personally think for a single seat the advance is enough, but perhaps if you want to shake a couch or multiple seats you should invest in the LFE or look at crowsons.

I tried the LFE and the advanced and the LFE is significantly more powerful, but it gets to a level I don't realistically see myself using so I returned it and kept the advance. But in my case I'm only trying to shake one seat.

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BTW I emailed Buttkicker tech support and here was their response:

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Subject: Question about using Buttkicker with AVR

I received a Buttkicker Advance BK4-4 as a gift. Can this 4 ohm BK4-4 safely be powered by a regular AVR? I have a Denon X4400H 9.2 channel system and I am only running a 5.1 system at this time, so I have unused capacity.

On Friday, January 3, 2020, 09:22:04 AM EST, XXXXX @guitammer.com> wrote:

No; not enough power and no ability to control separately.

You'll need a separate power amplifier capable 200-300 watts @ 4 ohm, such as

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...ifier--300-813

Anything else, let us know.

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The guidance from Denon:

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Can my X4400H be used to power a 4-ohm device such as the Buttkicker Advance BK4-4, rated 75W to 400W?
I have seen articles describing using a RCA cable from the X4400H's LFE Subwoofer output and connecting it back into the X4400H's Zone 2 as an input, and then using the Zone 2's speaker output to connect to and power the bass shaker. However, I do not know if specifically the X4400H's output will be appropriate for 4-ohm BK4-4?

Response By Email (Customer Service & Support) (01/07/2020 02:24 PM)
Hello,

Thank you for contacting support. While the AVR-X4400H is 4 ohm stable and the hook up method you mentioned should be fine and totally safe for the amplifier it is still recommended for best results to use an external subwoofer amplifier for your speaker. Utilizing Zone 2 could potentially cause volume discrepancies and /or timing issues.

We hope you find this helpful, have a great day.

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I ordered a Dayton Audio SA1000. Would anyone suggest a different amp if i someday want to build a BOSS and try to run both the BOSS and Buttkicker Advance on the same amp? Is that even possible?
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I'm currently using the buttkicker advance with the dayton 250 amp. Note that this amp does roll off <20hz. Pretty good experience. I plan to buy the SA1000 though since it would allow me to run 2 advanced, one LFE or even 2 Crowsons in the future.

@DarkEnigma - what is the wiring diagram for two Buttkicker Advances (4 ohms each) on the Dayton 250 or 1000 amp (4 ohm amps)? Is it putting them in series? I.e. Amp -> BK -> BK -> Amp?

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@DarkEnigma - what is the wiring diagram for two Buttkicker Advances (4 ohms each) on the Dayton 250 or 1000 amp (4 ohm amps)? Is it putting them in series? I.e. Amp -> BK -> BK -> Amp?
This will provide some insight into power recommendations for the various Buttkicker transducer models...

https://thebuttkicker.com/wiring-diagrams/
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This will provide some insight into power recommendations for the various Buttkicker transducer models...

https://thebuttkicker.com/wiring-diagrams/
Perfect resource! Its cool it dynamically creates a wiring diagram based on user input.

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I ordered a Dayton Audio SA1000. Would anyone suggest a different amp if i someday want to build a BOSS and try to run both the BOSS and Buttkicker Advance on the same amp? Is that even possible?
You'd definitely be able to run a boss setup with the shaker on the SA1000 provided that you could wire them to a 4 ohm load. (Probably a parallel combination of 2 4 ohm woofers in series and a woofer and the shaker)

For a bit more power and DSP people seem to like Behringers line for BOSS:
https://www.parts-express.com/behrin...fier--248-7012

or:
https://www.parts-express.com/behrin...-dsp--248-7017

for more on BOSS, you should probably post here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...y-theater.html

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You'd definitely be able to run a boss setup with the shaker on the SA1000 provided that you could wire them to a 4 ohm load. (Probably a parallel combination of 2 4 ohm woofers in series and a woofer and the shaker)

For a bit more power and DSP people seem to like Behringers line for BOSS:
https://www.parts-express.com/behrin...fier--248-7012

or:
https://www.parts-express.com/behrin...-dsp--248-7017

for more on BOSS, you should probably post here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...y-theater.html
It wasn't obvious to me if the Behringers were as suitable as the SA1000 for below 20hz? Their specs say 20 hz - 20 khz. Below 20 seems critical for both BK's and the BOSS...?

PS - I recently posted a question about amp selection in the BOSS thread but thats a quite active thread and my post didn't get any attention.

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It wasn't obvious to me if the Behringers were as suitable as the SA1000 for below 20hz? Their specs say 20 hz - 20 khz. Below 20 seems critical for both BK's and the BOSS...?

PS - I recently posted a question about amp selection in the BOSS thread but thats a quite active thread and my post didn't get any attention.
Also the Dayton is Class AB, and the Behringer is Class D. Wasn't sure if that would be relevant in this application?

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It wasn't obvious to me if the Behringers were as suitable as the SA1000 for below 20hz? Their specs say 20 hz - 20 khz. Below 20 seems critical for both BK's and the BOSS...?

PS - I recently posted a question about amp selection in the BOSS thread but thats a quite active thread and my post didn't get any attention.
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Also the Dayton is Class AB, and the Behringer is Class D. Wasn't sure if that would be relevant in this application?
In this case the differences in topology are irrelevant.

It seems the Inukes do have a high pass at 20Hz which can be mostly mitigated by applying some filters:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...z-dcx2496.html

The SA1000 is a bit simpler since you won't have to worry about that. You definitely want the extension below 20 for transducers/BOSS.

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It seems the Inukes do have a high pass at 20Hz which can be mostly mitigated by applying some filters:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...z-dcx2496.html
Good Intel, I learned a fair bit reading that.

Upon further research I'm reading the stock Behringer amps fans are quite loud, while the Dayton amp is not. My Dayton arrives tomorrow, I am excited to get started.

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Also, yesterday I tried the method of using my AVR's Zone 2 to power the Buttkicker. I got no response at all. Not sure if it was a configuration error, or if simply the Buttkicker Advance's minimum 75W load was reaching too far for my Denon X4400 while it was running 5.1 other channels.

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