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SVS SB-4000 vs Dual SB-3000

The time has come for a sub upgrade

I'm currently running a single SB-3000 and love everything about SVS, so, naturally, my choice is between getting a second SB-3000 or selling my current one and getting a SB-4000.

Now, I know that dual is generally better than single, but if I get a second SB-3000 I will most probably stick with them for a very long time. So it's more a question of - is SB-4000 that much better and worth the upgrade from SB-3000? I will probably get a second SB-4000 in a couple of years if I decide to level up now.

Would be very interested in hearing your opinions and especially those who had a chance to listen to both of them.

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The time has come for a sub upgrade

I'm currently running a single SB-3000 and love everything about SVS, so, naturally, my choice is between getting a second SB-3000 or selling my current one and getting a SB-4000.

Now, I know that dual is generally better than single, but if I get a second SB-3000 I will most probably stick with them for a very long time. So it's more a question of - is SB-4000 that much better and worth the upgrade from SB-3000? I will probably get a second SB-4000 in a couple of years if I decide to level up now.

Would be very interested in hearing your opinions and especially those who had a chance to listen to both of them.
I agree with the conclusions of this article:

https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-setup/two-subs

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Dual is preferred all things being equal, however, the SB4000 offers remote control which is handy as well as 1200 watts versus 800 watts. With a space like yours I would get the SB4000 and save up for a second SB4000.

The SB4000 weighs almost 50 pounds more than the SB3000.

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I agree with the conclusions of this article:

https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-setup/two-subs
Everything in that article is true and I can attest to that, since my first serious sub setup was dual SB-1000.

However I'm more curious if it's worth going from 3000 to 4000 with a second 4000 in the future

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Everything in that article is true and I can attest to that, since my first serious sub setup was dual SB-1000.

However I'm more curious if it's worth going from 3000 to 4000 with a second 4000 in the future
AVS will always push you for more whether you truly need it or not.

You did not say what size room you have and you seemed to indicate you were well pleased with the SB3000.

How much gain is on the back of the sub, what is the sub trim in your AVR menu?

Adding a second will give you much much better bass across a far wider area, giving you a massive +6db in headroom and the difference in price will get you a receiver with XT32 EQ for both subs if you don't have it already.

Not only that, depending on the room size, you have smaller cabinets to deal with so factor all those things into your decision making.

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AVS will always push you for more whether you truly need it or not.

You did not say what size room you have and you seemed to indicate you were well pleased with the SB3000.

How much gain is on the back of the sub, what is the sub trim in your AVR menu?

Adding a second will give you much much better bass across a far wider area, giving you a massive +6db in headroom and the difference in price will get you a receiver with XT32 EQ for both subs if you don't have it already.

Not only that, depending on the room size, you have smaller cabinets to deal with so factor all those things into your decision making.
The sub is currently set to -4 in the SVS app, can't check the AVR level as I'm currently waiting for my new TV to arrive

The room is 19.19 x 9.5 feet with a 8.2 foot ceiling.

I'm actually running Denon X4400H which has XT32 EQ built in and the size of SB-4000 doesn't bother me at all

My system: 7.1.4
Screen: LG OLED77C9 AVR: Denon X4400H, External amps: Emotiva XPA-5 Gen3/A-500, Center: SVS Ultra Center, Fronts: SVS Ultra Bookshelfs, Surrounds: SVS Prime Bookshelfs, Surround backs: SVS Ultra Surrounds, Sub: SVS SB-3000, Heights: 4xCambridge Audio Minx 22, 4K Blu-Ray Player: Sony X700, Media player: Nvidia Shield

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Is it, maybe, worth it to combine the 3000 with a 4000 for now, and then sell the 3000 and get another 4000 when the time comes?

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The sub is currently set to -4 in the SVS app, can't check the AVR level as I'm currently waiting for my new TV to arrive

The room is 19.19 x 9.5 feet with a 8.2 foot ceiling.

I'm actually running Denon X4400H which has XT32 EQ built in and the size of SB-4000 doesn't bother me at all
That is not a "large" room.

Two PB1000s would be enough for that room.

SVS does not recommend mixing models when going the multiple sub route.

Contact them directly, they will give you decent advice and I would expect that to be "two SB3000s will be plenty."

But let us know.

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