Looking to upgrade from SVS PB12+/2 to PSA, JTR, or Rythmik.
I'm running an older model SVS PB12Plus/2 I bought in 2003 and it is still performing very well. However, I feel like I need both more ULF and a higher end sound signature. I am not familiar enough with audio lingo to describe what I mean so I'll try and explain in my terms and hope it translates well enough. At the time I bought my SVS it was at the very limit of what I could afford and ever since, I've always wondered how much different the Ultra line would sound. I've been to a few home theater meets and have been able to listen to higher end subs and the sound is just different from what I have. I realize room acoustics is a big part of that, but I also believe that there's a difference in sound between my SVS plus and say a Seaton Submersive. The most recent thing pushing me toward an upgrade is a meet I went to in Michigan where this gentlemen's bass was just phenomenal but not just in SPL, there were sounds I know I'm not hearing at my house. The demo that really stood out was from Deep Water Horizon, when the oil rig finally explodes. The final couple of seconds of the explosion was so full of volume and a lower sound than I hear at home. At my house, during the explosion, it's a loud rumble like you'd expect, but the last couple of seconds there is no difference from the beginning of the rumble. At the meet, the sound pressure increased and sounded like a lower frequency rumble at the very end. More dynamic is perhaps what I'm trying to describe?
My room is less than ideal acoustically, but I hope to buy a house within the next 5 years. I'm currently using a single car attached garage as both my movie and game room. The ceiling is 7-½’, the width is 11’ and the depth of the garage is 21’ deep so approximately 1730 cu. Ft. Inside the room, I have 6 pinball machines and some shelving.
My receiver is a Denon X4400 with Audyssey XT32. Mains are Ascend Sierra 2's, no center, side surrounds are Philharmonic bookshelf speakers, rear surrounds are Axiom QS8's, and 4 Atmos ceiling speakers are RSL C34E's.
I’ve been browsing the PSA, JTR, and Rythmik Owner’s threads and when I read them, I want to buy one of their subs. The problem is, when I jump to another thread, some of the comments makes me want to buy that brand’s sub. And so on and so on.
From my reading, there are two models I’m really interested in: the TV36ipal, and the JTR RS2. I haven’t yet really settled on to a specific Rythmik model. Another reason I sway between models is because I have not heard anything from either of these brands before so going off word of mouth when most comments are positive makes it difficult to settle on one choice. There are a couple of local guys that said they will demo their subs for me, which will help if I ever get some free time. There are a couple of different Rythmiks I’ll be able to demo, and I’ll be able to demo a PSA sub. No chance for experience with a JTR sub that I’m aware of though.
After doing some measuring the JTR RS2 dimensions would allow me to place it where my current SVS is positioned, which is under the table my TV is on, that I sit about 5’ from. The TV36ipal might fit in the same space if I laid it down on its side. I can’t fit a Cap 4000ULF in any of its configurations in my room, it’s just too large. Since I haven’t zeroed in on a Rythmik model, I haven’t looked into the dimensions as thoroughly of their subs yet. I don’t necessarily have to place the sub where the current sub is, but I don’t have a lot of choices due to all of the stuff I crammed into this room.
Now let’s get to why I like the idea of the two models I mentioned. The TV36ipal sounds like it is a best of both worlds sub, with very good ULF and nice chest pumping bass in the upper frequencies. The PSA thread owner’s has seemed very enthusiastic about this sub and the iPal drivers in particular. The PSA thread is also the most active. Ever since I’ve heard about the JTR Cap 4000, I’ve been reading up on their products. It seems they are the ULF kings at the moment. Like I said, the 4000 is too big of a beast for my room, but the RS2 with its smaller cabinet and sealed design would let if fit in my room. And after watching Youthman’s latest vid on him running duals in his room, it got me a little excited about the prospect of owning an RS2. As for the Rythmiks, the comparison thread had I think the FV25 vs a JTR 2400, and even though the FV25 is rated down to 12Hz it sounded like the JTR was more capable at the very lowest frequencies. But, in the Rythmik owner’s thread, the way people love the direct servo sound has me very interested in checking them out. And I hear they’re close to bringing out a GH28.
As for other brands, I know I said I always wondered what the Ultra line would sound like compared to my current SVS, but from all accounts I’ve read the choices I have considered so far far exceed SVS in the ULF department.
My listening tastes are 90% movies, 10% music. When I do listen to music, my top choice is electronic style with Bassnectar being one of my favorites. Although I do like classic rock, 80’s, some 90’s, older rap, a little jazz, and classical. I don’t know if it’s my age, my I don’t like a lot of today’s pop music.
Although I mentioned two models I'm excited about, I’m open to any advice you guys have for me.
Thanks for your time!
Last edited by geocab; 01-19-2020 at 06:45 PM.