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post #7801 of 8734 Old 01-11-2018, 02:48 PM
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Installed 2 of these about 2 weeks ago and just wanted to share my experience and impressions. First, selecting these units was a long process and done after much reading and investigation. I needed something to replace a single Paradigm PW-2200. It never did have the output provide impact to the rather large living room that is open to the rest of the house. Perhaps adding a second unit would have done the trick, but I could not locate a second Paradigm unit at a price that was a fair value. I also considered building and installing an infinite baffle sub, but did not have a place in the basement that would work.... it was very interesting to learn about however. In the end, the fact that these were sealed 18" cube box, 15" driver, had a weight that indicated solid construction and an amp with high peak output plus some positive reviews won the day.

They arrived during a recent cold spell. I unboxed them and let them warm up for a few hours prior to s...

There is my $0.02. Happy to answer any questions anyone my have, this forum has certainly helped me.

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Glad you are happy, Tom. What's your room size?
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Glad you are happy, Tom. What's your room size?
Room measures 23' by 13.5' by 9'. There is about 100 sq ft of opening to the rest of the house. Far from a sealed room. The two units 8 to 10 ft from the MLP, I think that adds to the tactile response. I also wanted to mention that I use Audyessy dynamic EQ.
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Very satisfied with the upgrade! Purchased and took delivery of two VTF-12 MK5 subs replacing a Definitive Technology PF15 I've had since 1997. Klipsch KLF-20 main, KSF- C5 center, and KSF-S5 surrounds all about 20 years old all connected to a Denon AVR-S930H and Sony XBR-75X900E. My room is 16’ x 17’ with a recessed 12’ x 4’ area where my system is set up.

Yeah I stacked them because I'm from a demographic where I went to 1980s DJ battles in the neighborhood and I loved those walls of speakers!
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Very satisfied with the upgrade! Purchased and took delivery of two VTF-12 MK5 subs replacing a Definitive Technology PF15 I've had since 1997. Klipsch KLF-20 main, KSF- C5 center, and KSF-S5 surrounds all about 20 years old all connected to a Denon AVR-S930H and Sony XBR-75X900E. My room is 16’ x 17’ with a recessed 12’ x 4’ area where my system is set up.

Yeah I stacked them because I'm from a demographic where I went to 1980s DJ battles in the neighborhood and I loved those walls of speakers!
Looks gnarly...I like!

Can I ask where you bought your tv table? I’m looking for something like that.
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Looks gnarly...I like!

Can I ask where you bought your tv table? I’m looking for something like that.
Thank you! The tv stand brand is called Z-Line Design.

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Awesome setup!

Just to make a quick announcement. A few people have asked so I just wanted to let you know that we will be showcasing our subs and speakers at AXPONA this year. More details to come.
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Awesome setup!

Just to make a quick announcement. A few people have asked so I just wanted to let you know that we will be showcasing our subs and speakers at AXPONA this year. More details to come.
Hi Kevin! Looking forward to seeing you folks there again.


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Hi Kevin! Looking forward to seeing you folks there again.


Very happy with my four HSU ULS-15 MK IIs now that I've got them properly integrated thanks to some trial and error (short version: giving up on level matching and focusing on mode cancelling for the summated response). I've now got smooth response from 15 Hz to 90 Hz, where the mains have well taken over, and that 15 Hz is still impressive. You can't beat the opening scene of Blade Runner 2049 for a wakeup call...
We'll see you then! I haven't actually been able to pick up Blade Runner yet. I remember seeing it in theaters though.

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VTF15H Mk2 Amp Has Failed Twice

I bought dual VTF15H-M2 subs at the end of October (2017). About a month later one of them started putting out a rumbling sound when no input signal was present. These things are so powerful that one morning I was outside my house and heard what I thought was a helicopter approaching, complete with the below 20hz tactile feel in the ground. No helicopter showed up, it was the subwoofer doing its thing with no signal. I returned the sub's amp for a new one from HSU and all was good for 4-6 weeks. In mid-January I moved some things around in my room and re-ran the audyssey setup, only to find the same sub was no longer putting out any sound! Lots of investigation later (swapping amp outputs, cables, settings, checking the driver, etc) the conclusion is a dead amp. HSU is sending another replacement.

I love these subs (when they work) and I'm very happy I bought the extended warranty on the amps. Am I just unlucky or are these amps really this unreliable? I don't push them by any means, volume is set at roughly 10 o'clock, and I've only had them a few months. Seems very odd and also troubling.

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I bought dual VTF15H-M2 subs at the end of October (2017). About a month later one of them started putting out a rumbling sound when no input signal was present. These things are so powerful that one morning I was outside my house and heard what I thought was a helicopter approaching, complete with the below 20hz tactile feel in the ground. No helicopter showed up, it was the subwoofer doing its thing with no signal. I returned the sub's amp for a new one from HSU and all was good for 4-6 weeks. In mid-January I moved some things around in my room and re-ran the audyssey setup, only to find the same sub was no longer putting out any sound! Lots of investigation later (swapping amp outputs, cables, settings, checking the driver, etc) the conclusion is a dead amp. HSU is sending another replacement.

I love these subs (when they work) and I'm very happy I bought the extended warranty on the amps. Am I just unlucky or are these amps really this unreliable? I don't push them by any means, volume is set at roughly 10 o'clock, and I've only had them a few months. Seems very odd and also troubling.

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Hi HDD,

I'm aware of your case. It's certainly rare for one amp to go out, let alone two. With the first one it looks like the volume control was broken. I think it's just one of those things were the unfortunate case happened to you. We shipped out your replacement amp yesterday. Sorry for all the issues that you are having. Not quite sure what happened to the last amp, but we'll look into it.
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Hi HDD,

I'm aware of your case. It's certainly rare for one amp to go out, let alone two. With the first one it looks like the volume control was broken. I think it's just one of those things were the unfortunate case happened to you. We shipped out your replacement amp yesterday. Sorry for all the issues that you are having. Not quite sure what happened to the last amp, but we'll look into it.
Thanks Kevin. Like I said, I love the subs and look forward to finding out what happened with this latest one. Since this is rare, I should be good to go from now on!

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Received my second VTF-2mk5 today via Fed-Ex, my first impressions after getting them gain matched was....HOLY COW! What a difference adding a second sub does, the headroom it adds is incredible! I have both subs near field behind my couch. Wish I would have ordered my second one last year lol. Happy customer!


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I have an original VTF-15H, would adding a VTF-15H MK2 for dual subs be recommended, accepted, or discouraged? I don't think I'll need to upgrade soon, but was curious if that's an option or of they're different enough that they wouldn't really blend well together.
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I have an original VTF-15H, would adding a VTF-15H MK2 for dual subs be recommended, accepted, or discouraged? I don't think I'll need to upgrade soon, but was curious if that's an option or of they're different enough that they wouldn't really blend well together.
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That shouldn't be a problem. They both have the same extension and similar response, so they should integrate well depending on placement. Having an A/V receiver with dual bass management can also come in handy in letting you adjust the distance settings to keep them both in phase. The main thing is that the VTF-15H Mk2 does play louder and cleaner than the original by about 3-4 dB. So the thing to consider is the possibility of bottlenecking your system at higher output levels as the VTF-15H would hit its limits first before the VTF-15H MK2. If you want to keep them more gain matched with each other, you could lower the gain on the VTF-15H Mk2 by about 3 dB or so. In all honesty, it probably won't matter that much unless you're playing at very high output levels.
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Received my second VTF-2mk5 today via Fed-Ex, my first impressions after getting them gain matched was....HOLY COW! What a difference adding a second sub does, the headroom it adds is incredible! I have both subs near field behind my couch. Wish I would have ordered my second one last year lol. Happy customer!



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Nice , I wanted the vtf2.5 but the shipping to Canada was $100 cheaper on the outlaw ultra x12.... Imo it's just a downfiring vtf2.5 anyways lol .... I hope I have the same experience as you when I'm order my 2nd sub later this year ! Congrats
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I recently emailed HSU for shipping quotes on VTF1-MK3 (for my small PC room) and was informed they are in the middle of negotiations with FedEx to get lower shipping prices , i'm awaiting their response.

Now to my main question.

Original i wanted the VTF-2 MK5, but went with the Ultra X12 due to shipping cost(Canada). If shipping cost does improve i will be seriously interested in the VTF-2 MK5. Would the VTF-2 MK5 and Ultra X12 work well in a dual sub configuration (placement will be opposite corners)?

What i understand after researching both sub's they should have "near" identical response/output. feedback/thoughts?

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note/edit: i am 100% satisfied with the Ultra X12, communication with Outlaw audio was good. I'm looking to get more even response from seat to seat(isn't that everyone's goal :P).

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[QUOTE=macgallant;55612488]I recently emailed HSU for shipping quotes on VTF1-MK3 (for my small PC room) and was informed they are in the middle of negotiations with FedEx to get lower shipping prices , i'm awaiting their response.

I too was wondering about the holiday surcharge FedEx imposed and was wondering when we'd see a return to the previous shipping prices. FedEx is taking all the fun out of the gear-go-round!
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wondering if i have my vtf2 mk5 setup properly for movies. i already ran audyssey

i want the deepest bass, advertises down to 16 so if a movie has that i want to hear/feel it

unsure which option i should choose on the variable tuning.

option 2 or 3 im guessing? room is on the small side.

set up now as follows:

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wondering if i have my vtf2 mk5 setup properly for movies. i already ran audyssey

i want the deepest bass, advertises down to 16 so if a movie has that i want to hear/feel it

unsure which option i should choose on the variable tuning.

option 2 or 3 im guessing? room is on the small side.

set up now as follows:

phase 0

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eq1 or eq2?
The manual clearly explains your different options and what each setting will generally do for you. After that, you will want to experiment a bit .... as everybody's room will react differently.
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looks like I had one setting wrong.

room is small (11x11) so i put q control at 0.3 and that made a big difference vs 0.7 I always had it on

for movies i use eq1, music eq2 both ports open

eq 1, i put terminator salvation robot ambush scene on. i could feel its footsteps

thump/rumbles in bass is more pronounced.
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With a budget around $800 does Hsu offer a sub to my needs. Mainly used for movies and gaming with some
Music. Right now I have the sub that was included with my onkyo htib 7100 and it’s not bad but bottoms out on certain movies. Attached are the pics of the space I’m working with. Thanks I’m advance
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Music. Right now I have the sub that was included with my onkyo htib 7100 and it’s not bad but bottoms out on certain movies. Attached are the pics of the space I’m working with. Thanks I’m advance
Not bad? What until you hear a real subwoofer, you'll change your tune...

That is a pretty massive space so it's unlikely any single $800 sub will knock your socks off, but it will surely be better then what you have now. The VTF-15H MK2 is probably the best suited to the task at hand, so if you can up your budget a bit that would be a good option. Next best choice is the VTF-3 MK5 HP. Still outside your budget, but a very worthy option.

 
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Hey guys. What's the difference between the ULS15 and VTF15?

Room is 12x25x8 and relatively open to the rest of my space.

Looking to buy two and both fit within the budget...
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Room is 12x25x8 and relatively open to the rest of my space.

Looking to buy two and both fit within the budget...
One is ported and the other isn't? It's hard to discern what type of info you're looking for, but I can tell you the type we'll need in order to assist. It can be found at this link. With sufficient information you're likely to get the type of responses that can help with your decision.

 
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I’m a few weeks in with my ULS-15 MK2 and despite having a large room open to our kitchen (4500 cu ft room, excluding kitchen) the sub sounds and feels fantastic. Given the space and open concept, I was thinking of adding a second but the thought is outright daunting for my wife....any more bass seems like it will blow the walls out.
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Hey guys. What's the difference between the ULS15 and VTF15?

Room is 12x25x8 and relatively open to the rest of my space.

Looking to buy two and both fit within the budget...
One is ported and the other isn't? It's hard to discern what type of info you're looking for, but I can tell you the type we'll need in order to assist. It can be found at this link. With sufficient information you're likely to get the type of responses that can help with your decision.
Understood. The tuning can ported or sealed on the VTF? As for the ULS it?s sealed only. I definitely prefer a tighter sound from a sub.
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Understood. The tuning can ported or sealed on the VTF? As for the ULS it?s sealed only. I definitely prefer a tighter sound from a sub.
Hi Gregroland17,

Bass tightness has a lot to do with room acoustics/placement/where you're seated. We do design our ported subs well and they are naturally very accurate and tight. The great thing is that the VTF series have different tuning options that will allow you to adjust not only the response, but the performance characteristics of the sub. With the Q control and EQ control, you have more tools at your disposal to allow the sub to give you more tighter/detailed bass. The ULS-15 MK2 has the same driver and amp as the VTF-15H Mk2 and VTF-3 Mk5 HP, but it is a strictly sealed sub, so you lose a bit of efficiency (clean output) in the low bass as opposed to the ported variants. It's great for smaller rooms or if you have aesthetic restrictions. The ULS-15 Mk2 also doesn't quite have as hard of a slope as our ported subs do so if you are in a pretty small room with a lot of room gain, you could potentially get more in-room extension.
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Hi Gregroland17,

Bass tightness has a lot to do with room acoustics/placement/where you're seated. We do design our ported subs well and they are naturally very accurate and tight. The great thing is that the VTF series have different tuning options that will allow you to adjust not only the response, but the performance characteristics of the sub. With the Q control and EQ control, you have more tools at your disposal to allow the sub to give you more tighter/detailed bass. The ULS-15 MK2 has the same driver and amp as the VTF-15H Mk2 and VTF-3 Mk5 HP, but it is a strictly sealed sub, so you lose a bit of efficiency (clean output) in the low bass as opposed to the ported variants. It's great for smaller rooms or if you have aesthetic restrictions. The ULS-15 Mk2 also doesn't quite have as hard of a slope as our ported subs do so if you are in a pretty small room with a lot of room gain, you could potentially get more in-room extension.

Thank you Kevin. I'll do some more research on the VTF3 and VTF15, I appreciate you clearing that up for me.
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Now to my main question.

Original i wanted the VTF-2 MK5, but went with the Ultra X12 due to shipping cost(Canada). If shipping cost does improve i will be seriously interested in the VTF-2 MK5. Would the VTF-2 MK5 and Ultra X12 work well in a dual sub configuration ?

From what i understand after researching both sub's they should have "near" identical response/output. feedback/thoughts?

thank you

note/edit: i am 100% satisfied with the Ultra X12, communication with Outlaw audio was good. I'm looking to get more even response from seat to seat(isn't that everyone's goal :P).
anyone have any thoughts/feedback?
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denon x3300 and vtf2 mk5

i still dont understand why my sub kicks and pounds and sounds more badass on q control 0.3

small room 11x11 approximately

I always had it set at q control 0.7, eq1 and one port open since I bought it.
but a few days ago out of curiosity I changed it to 0.3 and wow what a difference

I put terminator salvation on, the robot ambush scene. and the robot footsteps I could feel and were powerful.
I didn't get that sound and feel with the 0.7 setting.

after more reading, apparently, 0.7 setting gives the lowest bass.
I'm confused here. I'm starting to think somethings wrong with the sub.
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