Originally Posted by Howard Shure
So I went down to Hsu today and I want to thank Kevin for taking the time to listen to me and demo the subs for me and a couple friends. I always find it helpful to have a couple friends to help validate what I think I’m hearing. I walked in there fully expecting to get a pair of VTF3-MK5’s or possibly a single VTF15-MK2. First off, I want to say that both of those subs are amazing and for the price, a great bang for your buck. The problem I had is that they just weren’t giving me what I wanted. I wasn’t feeling as immersed as I had hoped. I realize that there are a lot of variable in play here; their room vs mine, placement of their subs, etc. Then after some testing, Kevin suggested trying something different and playing a single ULS15 and then dual ULS15’s. That was the pivotal moment. They sounded amazing. That was what I was looking for. Now I realize I didn’t get to hear dual VTF3’s or VTF15’s but even with just the single ULS15 there was something there I wasn’t getting with the others. I was sold. Picked up the two ULS15’s, drove home, and my friends and I set them up. I have them positioned right behind the listening area one to the left and the other to the right. All I can say is wow! The bass was everywhere and the guns firing in 13 Hours were going through my chest. My HT was transformed and even my wife said that it was a much more immersive experience. Thank you Kevin, if you had not mentioned that, I probably wouldn’t have this huge smile on my face right now. Just wanted to share with all of you and thank you!
It was an absolute pleasure! Glad you found that the ULS-15 Mk2's worked better for your situation. Admittedly, it is a bit tough since the ULS-15 MK2 isn't exactly located in the same position as the other two ported subs. So A/Bing them, even in our demo room is a bit tough. The ULS-15 MK2 was further in the corner so that may have affected it some as well. Did you ever try the other sub at the other two position proposed? I'm curious as to how those worked out. Still need to pick up 13 Hours to try that scene out.
Originally Posted by jconjason
As long as you are happy that's all that matters. I'm curious though, how was the VTF3 setup? Was it ported? I'm surprised the ULS sounded better to you. At any rate, you're satisfied and in the end, that's the goal.
We have it set up right behind the seating position, so there is a lot of that tactile punch and shaking that is transmitted through the seats. We ran with 2 ports open, EQ 2, Q.5. The reason why is that our room had a pretty large room gain in the ultra low bass below 20 Hz, so when we ran with two ports open, it gave us a smoother response and the sub plays pretty much flat down to 15 Hz in room.
Originally Posted by Bigbirney
Hello, been looking at HSU subs. Recently sold my SVS PB 2000 and looking for more. Basement has wood laminate over concrete and main area is 18x10 or so with 8' ceilings. There is a game area thats 9x7 on the other side with a big column and two walkways, so its almost L shaped. Currently only room for one sub, but will purchase a 2nd when we move into a new place within the year. Between the VTF3 and VTF 15, what are the major differences besides size of enclosure and a little output? With the current sale there is only $130 price difference. With singles will I notice a huge difference? 70% movies and 30% music. I like the size of the VTF3 better for my current space, but its only short term.
More clean output in the ultra low bass is the main difference. Due to the larger size of the ports, that also means less port noise at high output levels in the ultra low bass as well. That being said, they are fairly similar in performance. I would venture to say that for the majority of material you may end up listening to, both subs would perform the same with very little to no distinguishable difference. I would say that the VTF-15H MK2 is more "future proof" in that if you go to a larger room and need more clean headroom, the VTF-15H Mk2 would be the best for that. Also if you tend to be more of a theaterphile of sorts and like to find the newest movies with ultra deep bass content, the VTF-15H MK2 may end up being the better of the two. The PB-2000 is a great sub, but what were you looking to get more of? WHere are you seated in that 18x10 area? Where is the 9x7 area located relative to you listening position?
Originally Posted by Howard Shure
When that happens you'll end up with a perma-grin! I've had one since Wednesday. I wish I had done this a long time ago. I go back now and re-watch all my movies and it's a whole new experience. At least in my room. I realize that each persons experience may differ, but this is the best HT purchase I have made in a long time. My new favorite demo scene is Flight of the Phoenix - the sandstorm plane crash scene.
Yea that scene is one of my favs. Some good low bass content in there. I should have played that for you in the demo room as well.