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UGH... got the X4300H today, ran Audyssey, and noticed an issue during the calibration. It seems as though the Left Surround terminal on the AVR is defective or something because it plays the calibration tone a lot softer than the others. I swapped speakers to make sure there wasn't anything wrong with the speaker, I swapped cables to make sure there wasn't anything wrong with the cable, I even ran Audyssey to calibrate for 7.1 and connected my surrounds to the Surround Back terminals (both tones played equally loud in that case).

As far as the settings it ended up with afterwards - Audyssey made me turn the gain knob down on the sub to virtually the minimum notch. It set the subwoofer trim to -2.0dB. All others were either -2.0dB to -3.5dB (the center channel was set the lowest), with the exception of that damned Left Surround, which bumped the trim up to +4.0dB. Sub distance was set to 8.3ft.

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Oh that is odd. Never heard that one before. Sorry to hear that Ryan! Are they sending you a replacement receiver?

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I'm sitting directly in the middle of the room . One side there is a 3ft opening with carpeted stairs that lead up to the main level door. On the other side of the 33ft room it makes an L into the carpeted 12x12 bedroom. That has a 4ft opening(no door) then 3ft of wall to the end of the room. I have a couch against the wall and can move it away from the wall if necessary. Speakers are about 1.5ft from the front wall and surrounds will be mounted on the rear wall. I'm not opposed to going with the vtf-15h mk2, but figured my room was too large to take advantage of it's slightly better low end. Hoping one will be enough, but could buy another in the future
I see. That is a bit of a tougher room since you're right in the middle of it all, but you do have the benefit of being up against the wall and that will help a bit with boundary gain. I would personally go with either the VTF-3 Mk5 HP or greater. The VTF-15H MK2 is a great sub in that it has better performance in the ultra low bass. This is due to the larger enclosure and the larger port cross-sectional port area. So if you like to listen to movies with a lot of ultra low bass content at pretty high output levels, the VTF-15H MK2 would be a good choice. Though for the majority of movies that are out there, both subs will actually be pretty similar in performance. In terms of placement, you will likely need to place the sub in the front. You can try the front corner or more towards the middle which may improve the mid-bass punch a bit at your listening position.

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Does anyone know the difference between B stock and C stock in the clearance section of the HSU site? They have some nice deals there.

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B-stock is a sub with fairly minor cosmetic blemishes. It could be surface scratch/scuffs/marks, maybe a small dent. C stock items generally have more cosmetic issues, though it does not affect the performance. It could be a deeper scratch, a larger dent, etc.

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First Kevin, thanks for responding to my emails quickly! As I told you before I had your original VTF 15 MK 1 for 15 years and you suggested the new 15mk2. I was still wondering about duals though... how would 2 of the VTF-2 MK5 350 watt version do in comparison to just one 15 MK 2 ? I have room in both corners in front of my theater, and I can also put one sub in one corner and another in the opposite corner diagonally too in the picture below. The room is 1344 cu ft. And my seats are about 1 ft away from the wall. Will two of the - MK 5's dig deeper while still getting that awesome mid bass punch? Also..which would give me the best tactile and wall shaking response?

Sorry for the wire mess "hell" and mess in general in the room. I am putting in new wiring and redoing my Pittsburgh sports cave. Also, I had friends last night over to watch the UFC fights...

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Hi there,

Can you refresh my memory on the dimensions of the room? Two VTF-2 Mk5's would be pretty similar in output to the VTF-15H Mk2 if they perfectly reinforce each other, but as you stated, two can help smooth out the response a bit more at your listening position. Did you have the VTF-15H in that room? If so how did you feel about the response?
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Oh that is odd. Never heard that one before. Sorry to hear that Ryan! Are they sending you a replacement receiver?
Yeah, I wasn't very happy. It's a shame, too. My best guess is that there is a loose solder connection or whatever inside because it was in perfect cosmetic condition. The problem was even more noticeable when running the setup assistant where it gets to the part where it plays the violin notes to confirm that there's sound coming from the speaker. When it got to the Left Surround, it was really garbled, and definitely sounded like there was a bad connection. Didn't matter what speaker I tried or what cable I used. The test tone that plays during the calibration sequence also sounded like it was coming only from the tweeter, too.

It was a refurbished unit, so there is no replacement. It's already on its way back to the retailer.

The little taste I got from the results of the calibration makes me really what to find another inexpensive AVR with XT32 (I could really tell the difference). I've had my eye on a few, but they have gotten snatched up before I had a chance to pull the trigger (I slept on it too long). There's one more that I am keeping my eye on, but I have to wait until payday this Friday, which will hopefully also include my refund for the X4300H. I'm not hopeful because it's a killer deal on a Marantz SR6014, and it'll be at least 4 more days before I get my money, but I have my fingers crossed. The same retailer appears to have an excellent price on a Marantz AV7705, but I have no idea how I would connect my speakers since it's basically XLR connections. I know the ULS-15 MK2 would connect because it has that connection on the back, but I haven't looked for any decent source for (if possible) XLR to banana plug cables.

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Monoprice has the XLR>RCA cables you need at a very good price...

A 7705 is a preamp not a receiver and you'll need an amplifier as well
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Monoprice has the XLR>RCA cables you need at a very good price...

A 7705 is a preamp not a receiver and you'll need an amplifier as well
Well, then. Thanks for the correction.

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Oh that is odd. Never heard that one before. Sorry to hear that Ryan! Are they sending you a replacement receiver?



I see. That is a bit of a tougher room since you're right in the middle of it all, but you do have the benefit of being up against the wall and that will help a bit with boundary gain. I would personally go with either the VTF-3 Mk5 HP or greater. The VTF-15H MK2 is a great sub in that it has better performance in the ultra low bass. This is due to the larger enclosure and the larger port cross-sectional port area. So if you like to listen to movies with a lot of ultra low bass content at pretty high output levels, the VTF-15H MK2 would be a good choice. Though for the majority of movies that are out there, both subs will actually be pretty similar in performance. In terms of placement, you will likely need to place the sub in the front. You can try the front corner or more towards the middle which may improve the mid-bass punch a bit at your listening position.



B-stock is a sub with fairly minor cosmetic blemishes. It could be surface scratch/scuffs/marks, maybe a small dent. C stock items generally have more cosmetic issues, though it does not affect the performance. It could be a deeper scratch, a larger dent, etc.



Hi there,

Can you refresh my memory on the dimensions of the room? Two VTF-2 Mk5's would be pretty similar in output to the VTF-15H Mk2 if they perfectly reinforce each other, but as you stated, two can help smooth out the response a bit more at your listening position. Did you have the VTF-15H in that room? If so how did you feel about the response?
The room is 11 ft w 15 ft L and 8 ft H. The bass was great in my main 2 seats but it lacked a little if you sat in the corner of the room. I had the 15 H MK1 in the front right corner, where the Dodgers baseball jersey is. In the opposite corner I could hear the bass but could not feel it as much. The seats are about 1 ft away from the wall.
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The room is 11 ft w 15 ft L and 8 ft H. The bass was great in my main 2 seats but it lacked a little if you sat in the corner of the room. I had the 15 H MK1 in the front right corner, where the Dodgers baseball jersey is. In the opposite corner I could hear the bass but could not feel it as much. The seats are about 1 ft away from the wall.
I see. So you want more even coverage all the way to the corner? That is a bit odd though. Usually the corner tends to cause a lot of reinforcement in the bass so it should get significantly more present there. Of course it could only be boosting the low end so the mid-bass impact may not be as good. Are you also looking for considerably more output than the VTF-15H Mk2? Have you ever tried placing the VTF-15H MK2 in the back corner opposite the corner you were seated in? If not, I would try that and try adjusting the distance on the receiver as well to reflect the new position. Let me know if that gives you the mid-bass you're looking for across your main seating position and that corner as well.
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I see. So you want more even coverage all the way to the corner? That is a bit odd though. Usually the corner tends to cause a lot of reinforcement in the bass so it should get significantly more present there. Of course it could only be boosting the low end so the mid-bass impact may not be as good. Are you also looking for considerably more output than the VTF-15H Mk2? Have you ever tried placing the VTF-15H MK2 in the back corner opposite the corner you were seated in? If not, I would try that and try adjusting the distance on the receiver as well to reflect the new position. Let me know if that gives you the mid-bass you're looking for across your main seating position and that corner as well.
I had the 15 MK 1 not the MK2. When I had the MK1, it had great midbass and tactile feel in the main listening area close to the back wall. If you sat in the about 3 ft away from the corner (along the left wall opposite corner or wall of where the sub was) then some of the tactile feel would be reduced but you could still hear the bass and midbass. Would the new 15 MK2 with the more powerful amp and new driver fill that little area?
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I had the 15 MK 1 not the MK2. When I had the MK1, it had great midbass and tactile feel in the main listening area close to the back wall. If you sat in the about 3 ft away from the corner (along the left wall opposite corner or wall of where the sub was) then some of the tactile feel would be reduced but you could still hear the bass and midbass. Would the new 15 MK2 with the more powerful amp and new driver fill that little area?
Sorry not sure why I said the Mk2, I meant the Mk1. I meant have you ever tried placing the VTF-15H MK1 in the back corner instead of the front? The thing is, if you get the VTF-15H Mk2, while it will play a bit louder and cleaner, it sounds like you're looking to get a smoother response across a wider area. If so, a two sub configuration may end up being the better bet there.
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The little taste I got from the results of the calibration makes me really what to find another inexpensive AVR with XT32 (I could really tell the difference). I've had my
I ended up with a 3600H and I am happy for sure. I run a 5.1.2 setup with it.
The Dolby and DTS mixes are well performing on this amp. I found the results from it to be better than the 3500H which I tried out before.
With the 3600 you get 9 channels of amp and 11 of processing. You could always buffer it with an Outlaw or Monoprice amp for your main channels if you want more/cleaner power.

The girlfriend has been rolling her eyes a little but but after all this tweaking (thanks to you and everyone else for the help!) it sounds awesome and she has said "wow, this sounds incredible" from time to time.

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I ended up with a 3600H and I am happy for sure. I run a 5.1.2 setup with it.
The Dolby and DTS mixes are well performing on this amp. I found the results from it to be better than the 3500H which I tried out before.
With the 3600 you get 9 channels of amp and 11 of processing. You could always buffer it with an Outlaw or Monoprice amp for your main channels if you want more/cleaner power.

The girlfriend has been rolling her eyes a little but but after all this tweaking (thanks to you and everyone else for the help!) it sounds awesome and she has said "wow, this sounds incredible" from time to time.

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I ended up with a 3600H and I am happy for sure. I run a 5.1.2 setup with it.
The Dolby and DTS mixes are well performing on this amp. I found the results from it to be better than the 3500H which I tried out before.
With the 3600 you get 9 channels of amp and 11 of processing. You could always buffer it with an Outlaw or Monoprice amp for your main channels if you want more/cleaner power.

The girlfriend has been rolling her eyes a little but but after all this tweaking (thanks to you and everyone else for the help!) it sounds awesome and she has said "wow, this sounds incredible" from time to time.

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Out of curiosity, how did the results differ with the 3600H vs the 3500H? Is it better EQing, settings? More clean headroom?

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Hey guys. Looking for opinions on the VTF-2 versus the VTF-3 for my room. The room is 12.5’ wide, 19’ long, and has 9’ ceilings with hardwood floors. Will two of the VTF-2 be sufficient or should I look at something else? I’ve had the older 10” version for probably 4.5 years and it still works great. Thanks!
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Hey guys. Looking for opinions on the VTF-2 versus the VTF-3 for my room. The room is 12.5’ wide, 19’ long, and has 9’ ceilings with hardwood floors. Will two of the VTF-2 be sufficient or should I look at something else? I’ve had the older 10” version for probably 4.5 years and it still works great. Thanks!
The VTF-2 pair should do fine as long as the space doesn't open up to a larger area. The VTF-3 will certainly offer more headroom and better response across the frequency spectrum in the possible port configurations, but you'll have to decide if the VTF-3's performance advantages are worth the additional $300 or so per unit (price/shipping/finish). I've got a single VTF-3 Mk5 HP in the main floor living room and it's great.

Best of luck with your choice.
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The VTF-2 pair should do fine as long as the space doesn't open up to a larger area. The VTF-3 will certainly offer more headroom and better response across the frequency spectrum in the possible port configurations, but you'll have to decide if the VTF-3's performance advantages are worth the additional $300 or so per unit (price/shipping/finish). I've got a single VTF-3 Mk5 HP in the main floor living room and it's great.



Best of luck with your choice.


Thank you. This room is closed off so I think those would be fine. Heck maybe I could even add one VTF-3 now and pick up another in a few months. I’m used to running just my 10” HSU, so I’m expecting a pretty substantial difference regardless of my choice ... correct?
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Thank you. This room is closed off so I think those would be fine. Heck maybe I could even add one VTF-3 now and pick up another in a few months. I’m used to running just my 10” HSU, so I’m expecting a pretty substantial difference regardless of my choice ... correct?
Correct.

I replaced a pair of VTF-1s (a Mk2 and a Mk3) with a pair of VTF-3 Mk5s. The difference was large for bass-heavy movies. If the specs are to be believed, the VTF-2 should go about as low as a VTF-3, but not as loud.
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I replaced a pair of VTF-1s (a Mk2 and a Mk3) with a pair of VTF-3 Mk5s. The difference was large for bass-heavy movies. If the specs are to be believed, the VTF-2 should go about as low as a VTF-3, but not as loud.

That’s good to know. Now I’m wondering if the difference is worth another $500 for two VTF-3. It’s a little better buy when you grab both in the bundled package as well. Hm. Not sure what to do here. I feel like I don’t “need” two 15” subs, but my room is basically 100% movies and tv - no music - so I’m sure it would “benefit” some from the largest size.
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If the specs are to be believed, the VTF-2 should go about as low as a VTF-3, but not as loud.
+1.

And two VTF-2 Mk5s will be a huge difference compared to what you're currently running. If you wanted, that extra $500 could be spent toward a UMIK-1 and miniDSP 2x4 HD so you could take measurements and EQ the subs. And you would still have $200 left over.
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That’s good to know. Now I’m wondering if the difference is worth another $500 for two VTF-3. It’s a little better buy when you grab both in the bundled package as well. Hm. Not sure what to do here. I feel like I don’t “need” two 15” subs, but my room is basically 100% movies and tv - no music - so I’m sure it would “benefit” some from the largest size.
At times Hsu has a sale on the VTF-3 that makes buying two individually slightly cheaper than the "dual drive" bundle. (I have never seen them discount the bundle.) That's what I did, last year.

There's always opportunity for buyer's remorse. The VTF-15H Mk2 dual drive pair is a mere $354US (shipped) more than the VTF-3 Mk 5 pair.
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And two VTF-2 Mk5s will be a huge difference compared to what you're currently running. If you wanted, that extra $500 could be spent toward a UMIK-1 and miniDSP 2x4 HD so you could take measurements and EQ the subs. And you would still have $200 left over.
That would be the most elegant path. However, a Denon or Marantz AVR that includes Audyssey MultEq32/SubEq can delay/volume match 2 subs independently, which is better than nothing.
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And two VTF-2 Mk5s will be a huge difference compared to what you're currently running. If you wanted, that extra $500 could be spent toward a UMIK-1 and miniDSP 2x4 HD so you could take measurements and EQ the subs. And you would still have $200 left over.


This is the route I’m going to take. The HSU folks also just responded to my email and advised the same based on my room. I have a Denon x4500 so should be good to go. Can’t wait to hear the difference!
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This is the route I’m going to take. The HSU folks also just responded to my email and advised the same based on my room. I have a Denon x4500 so should be good to go. Can’t wait to hear the difference!
The 4500 can equalize 2 subs semi-independently. You may want to start with that.
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The 4500 can equalize 2 subs semi-independently. You may want to start with that.

I still shouldn’t mix my current 10” with a new 12” right? Or are you saying I could do that? Sorry, I’m still learning this stuff.
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I still shouldn’t mix my current 10” with a new 12” right? Or are you saying I could do that? Sorry, I’m still learning this stuff.
I believe there are accounts of people using different subs in a dual sub set up. It's probably in your favour that it's the same brand. Audyssey will probably help a lot with level matching.
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I believe there are accounts of people using different subs in a dual sub set up. It's probably in your favour that it's the same brand. Audyssey will probably help a lot with level matching.


Interesting. That’s something else to consider to save around $500+ at least for now.
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I still shouldn’t mix my current 10” with a new 12” right? Or are you saying I could do that? Sorry, I’m still learning this stuff.
I have never tried the experiment. It should do no harm, but I'm not sure that it's worth doing. The 12" and 15" Hsu subs are very different from the 10" models.

I'm not sure why Hsu discontinued the VTF-1 (10"), but they may have faced too much competition in that class.

There may be other $600 (shipped) subs that can compete with a VTF-2 Mk 5, but this probably isn't the place to discuss them.
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I'm getting a vtf-15h from someone that the power died on. No lights or anything thing. It's never been driven hard since it's in a condo with close neighbors.

Is that repairable? It's out of warranty.
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I believe there are accounts of people using different subs in a dual sub set up. It's probably in your favour that it's the same brand. Audyssey will probably help a lot with level matching.
MiniDSP 2x4HD/umik-1/REW is what I'd suggest for getting multiple subs dialed in.
I run a pair of TN1220HOs and a VTF-15H Mk2, so I'd be one of the mythical different subs in a dual sub setup, except in my case it's a 3 sub setup. I believe as long as the port tunes are similar, it's not that difficult to mix different ported subs. I mean, if I can do it...
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Here are two great video reviews of the HSU VTF-2 MK5 vs the SVS PB 2000.
. There is also a follow up video with the winner!
FULL REVIEW
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I'm getting a vtf-15h from someone that the power died on. No lights or anything thing. It's never been driven hard since it's in a condo with close neighbors.

Is that repairable? It's out of warranty.
That's something you need to discuss with Hsu. Kevin may notice your post and comment, but you can't count on it.

Be sure to let them know whether it's a Mk1 or Mk2 (current model). They may be able to sell you a replacement plate amp, if you feel up to the repair (and it's worth it to you). Shipping it in for repair may be expensive, depending on how far you live from Anaheim, CA.
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Hey Rob,

Out of curiosity, how did the results differ with the 3600H vs the 3500H? Is it better EQing, settings? More clean headroom?
It may very well be placebo but I think the 3600 EQ improved the sound quality.
I also like the fact that I can adjust the Audessey settings with an app. Audessey reduces midrange (2khz) sounds which I turned off and then adjusted some high end to get a bit more crackle from my system.

Really I am future proofing my setup because I can do 11 channels of processing if I want to versus the maxed out 7 on the 3500.

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