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Alan P 03-01-2019 03:51 PM

You will probably get better response if you post in the Subwoofer sub-forum.

When you do, make sure to include all the info asked for in this sticky.

To answer your initial questions; no, you do not have to connect two subwoofers to the AVR. You will only need a single subwoofer cable in an appropriate length, Monoprice is the go-to for inexpensive cables, but Blue Jeans Cable is a definite step-up in quality.

And, as many will undoubtedly tell you - YOU don't tell the SUB where to be placed in the room...the SUB tells YOU. ;)

Head over to the subwoofer sub-forum and you'll get plenty of advice!

prometheis_78063 03-02-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan P (Post 57680106)
You will probably get better response if you post in the Subwoofer sub-forum.

When you do, make sure to include all the info asked for in this sticky.

To answer your initial questions; no, you do not have to connect two subwoofers to the AVR. You will only need a single subwoofer cable in an appropriate length, Monoprice is the go-to for inexpensive cables, but Blue Jeans Cable is a definite step-up in quality.

And, as many will undoubtedly tell you - YOU don't tell the SUB where to be placed in the room...the SUB tells YOU. ;)

Head over to the subwoofer sub-forum and you'll get plenty of advice!

thanks for the quick response. I'll be sure and sure and research the woof threads after I get this up and running.

m3incorp 03-02-2019 10:02 PM

Alan gave very good advice. Trying to place a sub in your entertainment center would probably not work.... those dimensions would severely limit what subwoofer you would have to buy. As stated above, the subwoofer has the most to say as to where it is placed.

prometheis_78063 03-03-2019 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m3incorp (Post 57685324)
Alan gave very good advice. Trying to place a sub in your entertainment center would probably not work.... those dimensions would severely limit what subwoofer you would have to buy. As stated above, the subwoofer has the most to say as to where it is placed.

Sadly the bottom center space in the entertainment center is the only space I have in a 12' x 12' x 7-1/2' room, unless I put 2 very small ones underneath each of the two front speakers, each with a footprint of only 11" x 8".

m3incorp 03-03-2019 10:21 AM

Can you take a pic of your room? We may be able to give better advice based on that. I noted you stated "rear facing subwoofer", why does it have to be rear facing? You are aware that subwoofers don't have to be placed at the front of the room. You don't have an open corner, side of wall, or perhaps behind seating position to put a subwoofer? Subwoofer inside of entertainment center can very well lead to your entertainment center shaking/vibrating. When we look hard enough, we can almost always find a different place that a subwoofer will work. I'm still wondering why you want it in the entertainment system? You understand that low frequencies are not supposed to be directional.....meaning properly set-up, you should be able to sit in your seating position and not be able to pinpoint exactly where the low frequencies are coming from. As an example, my subwoofer is placed on the left wall behind my couch, and sitting on my couch you would not be able to tell the low frequencies are coming from behind you. You have to have an open mind when it comes to subwoofers.

prometheis_78063 03-08-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by m3incorp (Post 57687018)
Can you take a pic of your room? We may be able to give better advice based on that. I noted you stated "rear facing subwoofer", why does it have to be rear facing? You are aware that subwoofers don't have to be placed at the front of the room. You don't have an open corner, side of wall, or perhaps behind seating position to put a subwoofer? Subwoofer inside of entertainment center can very well lead to your entertainment center shaking/vibrating. When we look hard enough, we can almost always find a different place that a subwoofer will work. I'm still wondering why you want it in the entertainment system? You understand that low frequencies are not supposed to be directional.....meaning properly set-up, you should be able to sit in your seating position and not be able to pinpoint exactly where the low frequencies are coming from. As an example, my subwoofer is placed on the left wall behind my couch, and sitting on my couch you would not be able to tell the low frequencies are coming from behind you. You have to have an open mind when it comes to subwoofers.

After much frustration, deliberation, advice and contemplation I have decided not to proceed with a subwoofer. After a week of research and tweaking equalizer settings. I thank you all for your wisdom and input(s)...

sfreiman 03-11-2019 11:47 AM

So I recently purchased an SVS SB 16 Ultra and was pretty pleased with it until it started having driver issues (possible blown driver in 30 day). I am still within my 45 day trial but I am now a little nervous to get another SVS product at this point although though this was my dream sub. I have also had issues with placement and I have an A frame ceiling and about 8k cubic feet to fill. It seems that all of my bass is getting trapped in a hallway and not much in the listening area. Spent a lot of time on the phone with SVS and moving the sub around to various locations even did a sub crawl.

So my question is two fold. First question is does anyone know of an acoustic engineer in South Florida that can properly map out the acoustics in my space? I am also planning on building an acoustical panel to help with some of the echo in the house and also act as an accent wall for the wife (yes thats how I was able to sell the idea to her!)

Also I have the opportunity to purchase now a JL Audio Fathom F113 brand new from a dealer and a very discounted price. I know they have DARO built in to help calibrate but no trial. JL gives you a 3 year warranty. So my question is do I give SVS another shot or just get the JL price is an issue but not as much since I would be getting a significant discount on the DL. I mean I don't want to spend 10k on a sub.

Also on a side not I also own a Velodyne DD10. I don't know it could be me or it could be because I received a dud sub but my velodyne sounded much better even though it was a 10 and could not hit the lows the SVS could hit.

sher 03-18-2019 03:49 PM

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Good point...I almost did that already, and your recommendation gave me the incentive to change it. Done <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smilie">

Help Please: my 12 inch Polk sub blew

Does anyone have experience with REL ACOUSTICS SUBWOOFERS?

I can't find anything on the forums.

I Have a modest 7 speaker surround with a Denon amp.

my 12 inch Polk sub blew I'd like to replace it with the idea of getting a second sub down the road.
;
Primary use is HDTV and movies.

I stream music as opposed to pulling from a high-quality music source

The sub's location is in a smaller seating area (about 150 sq ft) within a larger great room. (600sq ft)

Price range around $400.

So appreciate any and all help




#subwoofer

sher 03-18-2019 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sher (Post 57767274)
Help Please: my 12 inch Polk sub blew

Does anyone have experience with REL ACOUSTICS SUBWOOFERS?

I can't find anything on the forums.

I Have a modest 7 speaker surround with a Denon amp.

my 12 inch Polk sub blew I'd like to replace it with the idea of getting a second sub down the road.
;
Primary use is HDTV and movies.

I stream music as opposed to pulling from a high-quality music source

The sub's location is in a smaller seating area (about 150 sq ft) within a larger great room. (600sq ft)

Price range around $400.

So appreciate any and all help




#subwoofer

Help Please: my 12 inch Polk sub blew

Apologies for my post's ambiguities.

Let me clarify a couple of items about the blown Polk Sub and what I'm hoping to achieve in its replacement.

1. Size Matters: the sub will be located to the West of the TV under a table, discreetly, as this is a Living room. I am the wife. I am the Wife Factor. The Aesthetics do matter, but they're subordinate to the sound. !0-13 inches in height is the goal.

2. Music is played fairly often, but as the source is not a turntable or even a CD, the quality is not high.

3. We have a Plasma TV in the LR watched nightly and with great enthusiasm. Replacing the Sub will make a big difference to our experience.


The REL speaker looked to be a nice choice, but since i didn't see it here, I thought I better go back to the drawing board.
In your debt.
Sher

vipervick 04-09-2019 10:30 AM

Hello all,

My SVS PC-13 Ultra finally died after 9 years of great use. Should I stick with SVS, or entertain another brand? The "room" is a loft on the 2nd floor of a 5,000 sqft home, open to the great room downstairs to the rear.

Corhen 04-22-2019 02:54 PM

Looking for some advice, i have a chance to buy a Klipsch SW-112 used for $250 CAD. This seems like a great deal, seeing as how much the sold for, but the other option is to do something like order in the monoprice 12" for 95 Ea, and get two of those.

Should i stick with the klipsch, and plan on adding a second one at a later date of the same brand when i can afford it, or jump streight to a cheaper dual setup

Budget: as low as i can reasonable go, $300 Cad maxish
timeframe: sooner, is better

another question: would the amazon basics subwoofer cable be suitable, or should i count on something more like the Audioquest Black ($50 CAD on crutchfield). It is a short run, but it will run past all my power cables & my mosterpower conditioner (dont ask, it was on sale for $20)

Always looking for other advice.

gcooper77 05-08-2019 07:37 PM

SVS Sub Decison
 
First time posting on here.


Finishing up a full remodel on a contemporary french chateau in which there are many ceiling elevation changes on the main floor with the great room having a vaulted ceiling from 12-22ft. Due to style of home, we opted for hard wired ceiling speakers throughout the home. There is a media room with a ceiling, wall, and free standing set up which is dialed in so that's not the concern.


Concern is ambient sound throughout the home, indoor and outdoor that plays from 7am till 11pm most days and can really get cranked for events. In the great room we're running (4) Martin Logan Vanquish in ceilings with a combination of 13 Helos 12's and 22's throughout adjacent (but open) areas. Think hall, dining, kitchen, bar, foyer.



We've just finished the install and the speakers sound about as good as you can get for in ceiling application. The Vanquish's kick ass actually.


Now I'm looking at SVS for low levels. Crisp, clean sound is important as the entire home is limestone flooring and hard surface walls. It won't take a lot to fill the sound out, but my question is if there is experience with SVS SB-3000's vs SB-4000's in comparison vs a PC-4000 or a couple PC-2000's.


I have a wife. Esthetics are going to be an issue. Budget not really an issue but the reality is I'm pairing with in-ceiling speakers...so there's that.

jorisdriesen 06-06-2019 11:21 AM

Advice wanted.

Hey guys, first time posting in the subwoofer forum. I'm looking for the best subwoofer for my upcoming home theater in our new house (December 2019).

Room is 16.4ft x 10ft x 8.5ft. For speakers I'm looking at a Klipsch set with 2x RP-6000F, 2x RP-600M and 1x RP-504C. I'm not reading so many great things about the Klipsch subs, so I'm leaning towards the SVS PB4000 but I'm doubting between 2x Klipsch R-115SW and the SVS. The SVS is only available for $2750 in Belgium (!) and the 2x R-115SW are $1600 together. I don't mind spending the extra money if it's really worth it, but it seems like so many people are recommending to get dual subs, while many people also say that they would definitely get the PB4000 (or even the PB3000) instead of the dual Klipsch. Maybe it's all just massive overkill for my small room, the more I read the more confused I get. There's no real possibility to listen to any of them before buying, I can't find a single store that sells both brands in Belgium.

Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks guys !

meathax 06-07-2019 11:07 PM

Advice please..

I have a Devilant Phantom Gold that I want to try and run as a second sub in my existing 5.1 setup.

Its a 4500W speaker that goes down to 14Hz (google Devilant Phantom Gold I cant post links yet)

I currently have a Klipsch RP 5.1 + SVS 1000 setup with a Pioneer LX-503.

Is it possible to use this Phantom Gold as a second sub? It has optical in only. I ran an RCA from the SUB2 output on the avr into a optical converter then into the Gold.. nothing.

Any ideas? do i need a separate amp somewhere?

Any help appreciated

Alan P 06-10-2019 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meathax (Post 58156322)
Advice please..

I have a Devilant Phantom Gold that I want to try and run as a second sub in my existing 5.1 setup.

Its a 4500W speaker that goes down to 14Hz (google Devilant Phantom Gold I cant post links yet)

I currently have a Klipsch RP 5.1 + SVS 1000 setup with a Pioneer LX-503.

Is it possible to use this Phantom Gold as a second sub? It has optical in only. I ran an RCA from the SUB2 output on the avr into a optical converter then into the Gold.. nothing.

Any ideas? do i need a separate amp somewhere?

Any help appreciated

That is a wireless speaker (not a subwoofer). You will need the wireless transmitter that comes with it in order to use it. In order to use it as a subwoofer, you will need a way to low-pass the speaker so it doesn't reproduce the higher frequencies. Why anyone would want to go through all this for questionable results is beyond me....just stick with your SVS. ;)

Ali Babar 07-03-2019 06:24 PM

Hello everyone ive just entered to this world ..
I have a denon 3806 avr will upgrade later
Front kef q500 tower
rear kef q100 bookshelf

i have 3 sub woofer options please help me choose

energy esw 10

Polk audio dsw 500

Goldeanear forcefield 4

please help me choose

my listening is music 60% and 40% movies

please help

Thank you

jorisdriesen 07-22-2019 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorisdriesen (Post 58149492)
Advice wanted.

Hey guys, first time posting in the subwoofer forum. I'm looking for the best subwoofer for my upcoming home theater in our new house (December 2019).

Room is 16.4ft x 10ft x 8.5ft. For speakers I'm looking at a Klipsch set with 2x RP-6000F, 2x RP-600M and 1x RP-504C. I'm not reading so many great things about the Klipsch subs, so I'm leaning towards the SVS PB4000 but I'm doubting between 2x Klipsch R-115SW and the SVS. The SVS is only available for $2750 in Belgium (!) and the 2x R-115SW are $1600 together. I don't mind spending the extra money if it's really worth it, but it seems like so many people are recommending to get dual subs, while many people also say that they would definitely get the PB4000 (or even the PB3000) instead of the dual Klipsch. Maybe it's all just massive overkill for my small room, the more I read the more confused I get. There's no real possibility to listen to any of them before buying, I can't find a single store that sells both brands in Belgium.

Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks guys !

Anybody ?

Alan P 07-22-2019 01:28 PM

^^^

You may get more responses if you started a thread of your own. Not a ton of people keep an eye on this thread. :)

jorisdriesen 07-23-2019 07:50 AM

K, thanks, will give that a try.


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