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post #691 of 4841 Old 01-11-2007, 09:43 PM
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Any chance of "Borat" coming to BD day-and-date with the DVD?

Oof! There are definitely some scenes (well, one, anyway) which I don't need to see in glorious 1080p high definition!

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didnt read the posts here before making the post. Digital Playground has defected from BD to HD DVD and has announced HD DVD titles.

I'm not sure how this is related to the AACS hack on studio format support, unless you're implying that Digital Playground sees the possibility that their content could be ripped and redistributed as a good thing?

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Okay, and looking at it that way I can understand. Still do you know of any official Warner email address that would allow Blu-ray supporters to discuss with Warner the issue of Dolby TrueHD on Blu-ray?

After too much time navigating the almost completely Flash-based Warner websites, the closest thing I found was a customer service email form here.

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Amir, Ben, Paidgeek, Talk and others:

https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...33#post9435733

I'm hoping to have your endorsement in the above thread asking Warner for CJ's return to the community.

Amir, hopefully you can then pass it onto Warner and we can get him back here.

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Thanks Robert. I have been following the thread . I will not post in it as to not make sure it is from people with no industry bias. But you have my assurance that I will forward to Warner management after a couple of days to make sure we get everyone signing in.
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Thanks Robert. I have been following the thread . I will not post in it as to not make sure it is from people with no industry bias. But you have my assurance that I will forward to Warner management after a couple of days to make sure we get everyone signing in.

Could Steve Nickerson help? I saw him at some sessions at CES and was impressed. In fact the two of you were on a panel at one of the sessions. The man came accross as someone with integrity, even in the cutthroat business such as movie production/distribution.

I also want to say that it was a pleasure meeting you at the 6:00 pm session on HD DVD on Tuesday...even though it made me an hour late for the AVS party! Kudos also to Kevin C. It's nice to meet people who actually seem to like their job!

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My original question back on page 18 of this thread is below. Any insiders please feel free to comment.

Now that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray both have proper 1080P video playback on HTPC, we're looking at the audio side, and unfortunately the market seems completely bare of TrueHD and DTS-HD Master solutions for PC. The best we can hope for is Dolby Digital AC-3 5.1, Dolby Digital EX and DTS ES NEO 6.1

But really my main questions are these:

Has anyone from either side approached Sound Card vendors like Creative/Turtle Beach for a possible solution?

Or are they not even aware that HTPC enthusiasts/vendors would want these products?

Or can the current software packages such as Intervideo WinDVD8 and Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.1 pass via Coax/Optical Digtial Audio the signal to an external decoder for Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD Master?

Any info would be appreciated from either side.

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I hope you may have an answer for this (It might have been asked already). Now that it's been a while with both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD on the PC market, and now that the HP HD-DVD drive has been released and we can see there is an official supported solution for HD-DVD on PC, does anyone know how the various HD-DVD playback solutions (Cyberlink, Intervideo, Windows Vista etc) offer Dolby TrueHD sound/DTS-HD master for PC output? Standard sound cards such as the Audigy 2 and Xi-Fi have 3 analog stereo plug connectors that feed 5.1 and sometimes 7.1, 8.1 sets of speakers or amplifiers. They also have optical and coaxial digital outputs as well. Is there a solution for getting proper full Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD master for PC? Can the Creative Xi-Fi handle this or do they have a solution in the works? Or are we going to have to settle for Dolby Digital+ remixed for DTS output or some other solution. Are there going to be any PC audio solutions to provide real Dolby TrueHD output? Like perhaps from Niveus? Is it possible under Windows XP or only Windows Vista?

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Could Steve Nickerson help? I saw him at some sessions at CES and was impressed. In fact the two of you were on a panel at one of the sessions. The man came accross as someone with integrity, even in the cutthroat business such as movie production/distribution.

Steve is a nice guy and has broad industry background (worked at Toshiba for a long time). But the post house does not report up to him.

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I also want to say that it was a pleasure meeting you at the 6:00 pm session on HD DVD on Tuesday...even though it made me an hour late for the AVS party! Kudos also to Kevin C. It's nice to meet people who actually seem to like their job!

Thank you much. We didn't do introductions so I couldn't tell who had come. And we had an abbreviated session.
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Does this mean that Universal being HD-DVD only at this point may have some room to make slightly more efficient encodes? Or do they also adhere to the lowest common denominator? (I guess you might not be able to answer that last question but well, just in case).

They certainly can. I can't speak for Universal in particular, of course. But I can confirm there is content out there on HD DVD which use more B-frames than BD supports, and to good effect.
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What is the effect of more B frames? Lower bitrate?

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What is the effect of more B frames? Lower bitrate?

B-frames can be more efficient to encode for content with little or very simple motion (like scrolling credits).

Since no frame refers to a B-frame, they can also be useful to pad out a second of blank frames, so that the next P-frame can refer to the previous I or P frame which is the proper reference frame.
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I am sorry but I don't quite understand the question. Do you mean keys for decrypting content? If so, they apply to AACS-LA which licenses them the copy protection technology. The AACS web site may have more info on this.

Yes, I'm trying to understand how the PKI infrastructure works for AACS without having to read the spec.

Who are the root CA's? Is there a HD DVD one and a BD one? What kind of certification required to obtain keys? Lets say that a SW player is compromised and it's player keys are revoked. This player would no longer be able to play any titles that are pressed after it is revoked. Can that SW player be fixed and re-certified to obtain new keys to be redistributed for use in an updated version of the player? Same for CE players with a revised FW.

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WMA Pro on 360 is for decode, not encode. What is needed here is to re-encode the original stream into WMA Pro.

How much interest is there in WMA Pro encode? I know all Pioneer receivers support it today but not sure if that is enough to have critical demand. We would be pleased to add it if there is sufficient demand.

We all want the best PQ and AQ from our devices and since the 360 supports WMA Pro output, if WMA Pro is the best that a 360 can output then let those that can take advantage of it have the opportunity experience HD as "perfect" as possible.
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Sorry, the silence was not intentional. I just missed your questions .

Thanks for the responses, it's slighly reassuring to hear them.

If I might ask two more questions (and I expect you can't answer them but I've got to ask anyway):

What constitutes a "legitimate" out of the MMC requirement?

Do we have a ballpark price to expect MCs to be (eg $0-5, $5-10, $10-20....)
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I also have a MMC related question:

Will new hardware chips be necessary to realize MMC playback in CE devices like e.g. media player boxes or Blu-Ray or HD DVD players? Or will the current Sigma Designs / Broadcom chips do, with just some software added on top?

I'm asking this question because if there are new chips needed, it may take another 1-3 years before we see CE devices that are capable of playing back MMC'ed movie files from network. That would be very sad, because I'd really like to make good use of MMC in 2007. I would hate if I had to wait until 2010. And no, HTPC is no go for me. I want a non PC hardware fan free CE device with reliable MMC playback.

Thanks!
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Amir,

I have been format neutral since I heard about HD discs, I have a HDA1 and will buy a PS3 as soon as prices are reasonable for Blu-ray. But then, I thought the format war was going to be settled with dual format discs and player, not with one format overcoming another completely.

Now Universal's silence greatly disturbed me. I've invested quite a lot on HDDVD hardware and software (counting in Brazil's taxes, my player cost around US$1000 and each disc goes for around US$40), and I'm afraid Blu-ray will overwhelm HDDVD completely in a few months' time.

Plus, I was greatly disappointed not to see any new studios declaring format neutrality this January. After the rumors, I was half certain Disney would support HDDVD. I'll buy thir blurays anyway, mind you, but I still don't have a blu-ray player, so I have to wait longer...

So, my question for you is this:

Do you know anything, any news that can't be made public yet, a studio switchover, a batch of great title release annoucements, a new super-cheap player, anything at all, that would reverse/stall the news of impending doom for HDDVD? Anything to cheer up people who spent thousands of dollars to be early supporters of the format? Even if you can't tell us what it is, it would relieve me greatly to know there is SOMETHING around the corner that might counteract BluRay's great slate of announced titles.

Thank you very much for your informative posts here, they've been invaluable for techno-geeks like me.
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Has there been any significant discussion recently on either the Blu-ray or the HD DVD side about region coding? If so, any discussion on the time frame for implementation?
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Hi paidgeek! Do you think any possibility of delays for Spiderman 1 & 2 are due to relatively normal marketing issues or is perhaps possibly overdue caution due to the reaction to The Fifth Element, for example?

I, for one, have put off a DVD purchase of Spidey 2 as I have with most DVD's in the last 6-12 months since I knew I would eventually be going hi def...

The decision of when to release this and many other key titles is market timing. We have already put in place a rigorous review process for new and catalog HD masters, so you should expect to see clean masters from our studio.

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The decision of when to release this and many other key titles is market timing. We have already put in place a rigorous review process for new and catalog HD masters, so you should expect to see clean masters from our studio.

Thank the Makers for that!! Now if you'd like to offer a swap out for a new "Superbit-BD" version of TFE when that comes out, that'd be lovely, appreciated, and a slick PR move.



I was also interested to find out that Casino Royale and Open Season are going to be AVC -- great news there! Can you say at this time if the rest of the Bond films will be released as AVC BDs as well, at some point in the future? Everyone has been raving abou their new releases on DVD but I'm holding off for the future BD boxed set.

Any hints on when that may arrive?

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I also have a MMC related question: Will new hardware chips be necessary to realize MMC playback in CE devices like e.g. media player boxes or Blu-Ray or HD DVD players? Or will the current Sigma Designs / Broadcom chips do, with just some software added on top?

For the Sigma and Broadcom chips in the Blu-ray and HD DVD players, it is just software. This is similarly demonstrated by Pioneer supporting PlaysForSure on their player, and I really hope things like this, MC playback, and MCX become standard player features soon. The SoCs from Sigma and Broadcom are 95% software with a little hardware acceleration thrown in.
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What constitutes a "legitimate" out of the MMC requirement?

As I mentioned, it would be the case of the content owner not having the rights to give you the managed copy. An example Warner used on the panel at CES was if a talent/producer/etc. considers managed copy video on demand as opposed to optical distribution and have a carve out in their contract for the former. Or very old content which unclear contract rights with no way to re-negotiated it.

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Do we have a ballpark price to expect MCs to be (eg $0-5, $5-10, $10-20....)

The price will be proportional to how paranoid a studio is about MMC . Seriously, there are some studios who love the new business model that MMC brings to them and might just include the first copy in the price of the disc. Others may be so paranoid as to use the price as a deterrent to usage. Hopefully market forces will cause the latter to follow the former.
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I also have a MMC related question:

Will new hardware chips be necessary to realize MMC playback in CE devices like e.g. media player boxes or Blu-Ray or HD DVD players? Or will the current Sigma Designs / Broadcom chips do, with just some software added on top?

All the current decoders are able to do the most complex part: decode the video. However, they may not have the support for the DRM system which will wrap the managed copy. However, all the cores have standard CPUs in them which can be upgraded to handle the DRM, assuming there is a port available.

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I'm asking this question because if there are new chips needed, it may take another 1-3 years before we see CE devices that are capable of playing back MMC'ed movie files from network. That would be very sad, because I'd really like to make good use of MMC in 2007. I would hate if I had to wait until 2010. And no, HTPC is no go for me. I want a non PC hardware fan free CE device with reliable MMC playback.

Thanks!

I don't think we will have to wait for new silicon. But we do have to wait for someone to build the complete system including the server software, networking and playback. So MMC won't happen on the first day AACS grants a license but not as bad as waiting for another generation of silicon either.
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Amir or benwaggoner,

A couple of weeks ago people complained about how DD+ tracks sounded when played on the 360 add-on. Some just thought the volume was lower and others said it sounded like some sort of dynamic range compression was taking place. You (amir) said in a post that your team was investigating these reports and it was then assumed by a lot of posters in the HD DVD player forum that a fix will be included in the update that will add DTS output. Maybe I have missed a post with all the details, not hard to do here especially during the holidays, so I wonder if either one of you could clarify:

Did you confirm that there is a problem with DD+ audio tracks on the 360 add-on?

If you did, will it be fixed by the update that adds DTS output?

Amir or benwaggoner,

Any word on this yet from the team?

Thanks,
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Thank you Keith and Amir for your replies!

Three additional questions about MC:

(1) Would it be legal for me to buy a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc, make a MC to my network storage and then sell the disc on Ebay? Would I legally be allowed to keep the MC in this case in my network storage forever?

(2) What about HD-DVD or Blu-Ray discs from e.g. Netflix? Will rented discs allow MCs? If there's one free MC per disc with some studios, the first renter gets a MC for free then as a surprise present?

(3) Does MC contain a way to make a copy stop working after a specific amount of time, or after the copy has been watched a specific number of times?
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QUESTION: along those lines will MC require the original disc available at a specific point of time (ie. could you put your discs in storage and not be expected to pull them out in the future when viewing)???

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Amir,

I have been format neutral since I heard about HD discs, I have a HDA1 and will buy a PS3 as soon as prices are reasonable for Blu-ray. But then, I thought the format war was going to be settled with dual format discs and player, not with one format overcoming another completely.

We are certainly headed toward both formats living next to each other.

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Now Universal's silence greatly disturbed me. I've invested quite a lot on HDDVD hardware and software (counting in Brazil's taxes, my player cost around US$1000 and each disc goes for around US$40), and I'm afraid Blu-ray will overwhelm HDDVD completely in a few months' time.

Sorry, I really don't understand this angst about Universal. Universal could not shout any louder in support of HD DVD at CES. They are the chairman of the US HD DVD group and gave the keynote address at CES. They have committed strongly to releasing their titles for this year, including day and date for new movies yet to even come to theaters. More importantly, you did not hear a peep from them going to BD route, despite the confidence of BD group that they are doing well. Another CES came and went without them going near BDA.

Universal is also committed to a lot of innovations in the area of interactivity with HDi as we demonstrated at CES. Given the really bad shape of same technology in BDA products, their preference for HD DVD could not be more clear and obvious.

Net, net, you should see Universal more committed to HD DVD, than any BD studio is to BDA. They have shown this in the past, and will continue to do so in the future with stellar products, using all the advanced features of HD DVD.

It is true that we don't pound our chest about the future as much as the BDA does. We prefer to show progress with real action mostly. So what you are seeing is the more conservative approach. But please don't mistake that with lack of commitment to HD DVD. We are all very, very committed to success of HD DVD and will do everything in our power to advance the format.

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Plus, I was greatly disappointed not to see any new studios declaring format neutrality this January. After the rumors, I was half certain Disney would support HDDVD. I'll buy thir blurays anyway, mind you, but I still don't have a blu-ray player, so I have to wait longer...

Everything takes time. One has to have patience. Remember last CES where BDA declared HD DVD dead and everyone believed them? Look at where we are now, with a raft of new CE company announcements which they said was impossible for us to get. We have 40 content studios worldwide distributing HD DVD. We have way more titles than BDA once you include these international titles. And that trend is going to continue with doubling the number of titles to some 600 by the end of this year.

And then we had LG breaking the ice by going from BD exclusive to not only supporting HD DVD, but saying great things about how well HD DVD works at CES. This is going to have strong impact on the attitude of BD-exclusive companies. Trust me on this. A lot of people changed their mind at CES over this on the other side of the fence given the large splash LG made. It will become very hard for BD CE companies to market BD-only products retailing for high prices. Very hard.

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Do you know anything, any news that can't be made public yet, a studio switchover, a batch of great title release annoucements, a new super-cheap player, anything at all, that would reverse/stall the news of impending doom for HDDVD?

Impending doom? Where do people get this? Let's look at the situation at CES. BDA companies showed no new companies adopting BD format. None. All they had for news, is what they were always supposed to have, which is their studios not dragging their feet to support their format. That was it. No new lower cost players. No follow on products. No BD-Live products. No demonstration of advancements in their format. Nothing.

In contrast, HD DVD showed incredible progress. We have new CE partners from likes of Chinese/Taiwanese (who will make the low cost products you ask about) and Onkyo, to companies with stellar reputation like Meridian. More importantly, at CES one gets to meet with a ton of CE companies. And I can tell you that all of this news moved HD DVD significantly forward in their support behind the scenes. Obviously, in front of our competitors here I am not going to mention specifics. But you can count us announcing new CE partners this year.

The above is important as it starts to break down the last two arguments that BDA says was in their favor: CE companies and content. The former is now proven to be false and indeed, BDA no longer trumpet that at CES. The content side will also come. It is inevitable that content companies will follow where the sockets and positive momentum are. They did so when DVD came and they were on Divx bandwagon. They will do so again.

Remember, that alliances can change overnight. An executive could choose to support the other format with one decision and have titles in the market next month. But you can not solve the manufacturing and other difficulties of BD overnight. HD DVD is real, can produce the experience that people want and will gain the support of companies as it continues its forward progress.

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Anything to cheer up people who spent thousands of dollars to be early supporters of the format? Even if you can't tell us what it is, it would relieve me greatly to know there is SOMETHING around the corner that might counteract BluRay's great slate of announced titles.

Here is what I can tell you. There are 16,000 DVD titles from what I recall. Compared to that, neither BD nor HD DVD holds a candle. So all we are talking about for this year is having a solid library so that you can enjoy your chose format.

Fact is that HD DVD will supply you with considerable choices in content with great attention to quality, state-of-the-art in interactivity and menu design, and usage of advanced scenarios such as digital downloads. HD DVD will present you with the broadest set of content from alternative to independent and locally produced content such as Bandai animations. Its ease of replication is the power behind this as it allows anyone anywhere in the world to get production capacity including without having to call Sony and such.

HD DVD is also the only global HD format with no region coding. So you can continue to enjoy CE and content from anywhere in the world, with no worries about borders. And with the advent of internet, you can purchase them with relative ease. This is also driving content adoption. When I was in UK, many had imported their players and content from US.

Per note before, HD DVD is also bringing the widest range of products on the playback to the market. This includes super low cost far-east players which retailers can private brand, to reference quality products from likes of Meridian to extract that last bit of quality out of HD DVD and other formats the device plays such as CDs, while supporting the widest set of features. And of course, everything in between from Toshiba including 1080p/24fps support. With our significant partnership with Broadcom to provide a nice platform for building HD DVD players quickly and efficiently, you can expect to see companies able to enter HD DVD without a huge outlay of R&D dollars which few can afford, given how complex these formats are.

And of course, we have the key advantage of bringing value to our customers. HD DVD option for Xbox 360 brings an unmatched level of value at just $199. And with over 10M and counting 360 machines out there and strong, strong demand for the HD DVD add-on, we are going to continue to bring a ton of people into HD DVD fold which the other guys simply can not match. And Toshiba is thundering away with fast product cycles with great pricing and frequent firmware updates to keep them fresh. Nothing in BDA comes close to matching any of this offering.

Last but not least, as you hopefully know, you are dealing with a company behind HD DVD who at its heart, is made up of people like you. With likes of Stacey Spears, Kevin Collins, Ben, etc., you know that we love this technology and care to deliver the utmost A/V experience. (We are not a competitor to CE companies which makes it so much easier for them to partner with us.) There is a reason we have Meridian on board and the other guys do not have. Yes, this is also a business for us as it is for BD companies. But it goes way past that. Our passion shows in our execution and the support that we are gaining from many companies who like to deal with people who appreciate their art and products.

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Thank you very much for your informative posts here, they've been invaluable for techno-geeks like me.

Thank you so much. We really appreciate the people here who have purchased and supported us in this journey. HD DVD would be nowhere without it. But together, we are strong and headed on a very positive trajectory to establish HD DVD as both a premier HD optical format, but also one that provides great value for everyday person.

Sorry about the rant btw . There was a lot of pent up passion here wanting to get out.
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Has there been any significant discussion recently on either the Blu-ray or the HD DVD side about region coding? If so, any discussion on the time frame for implementation?

HD DVD region coding proposals have lost steam. At this point, the odds of them getting into the standard is very low. Of course, even if it does pass, it has no impact on current products which are region free.

BD on the other hand, mandates region coding and there are discs already region restricted.
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Do you know anything, any news that can't be made public yet, a studio switchover, a batch of great title release annoucements, a new super-cheap player, anything at all, that would reverse/stall the news of impending doom for HDDVD? Anything to cheer up people who spent thousands of dollars to be early supporters of the format? Even if you can't tell us what it is, it would relieve me greatly to know there is SOMETHING around the corner that might counteract BluRay's great slate of announced titles.

Obvoiusly stuff that can't be made public yet can't be made public yet .

But "impending doom" is far, far overstated. Lots of titles are coming, a bunch of new full-spec players have been launched. There's the new reference platform combining the Broadcom SOC and Windows CE that'll open up manufacturitng to many more companies. And many more companies announced they'll be building HD DVD players.

And content providers certainly have noticed how many fewer PS3s and other players there are in the market than they expected when they agreed to support BD.

I'm feeling more bullish than ever myself.

And yes, there's plenty of good news for HD DVD on the way we can't share yet.
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(1) Would it be legal for me to buy a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc, make a MC to my network storage and then sell the disc on Ebay? Would I legally be allowed to keep the MC in this case in my network storage forever?

You can do that. But the disc you sell may no longer have managed copy priviledge (subject to fraud detection by the studio MC service) and as such, its value would be less than a "virgin" disc still in its wrapper.

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(2) What about HD-DVD or Blu-Ray discs from e.g. Netflix? Will rented discs allow MCs? If there's one free MC per disc with some studios, the first renter gets a MC for free then as a surprise present?

In US, studios are barred from discremenating against rental use versus purchase. That is, Netflix is free to purchase the same discs others do, and have them come with similar rights. Having said this, there are discussions in AACS about rental but I am not up to speed on them. So there may be something here I don't know. So in theory, you are right that the first renter gets more than others do.

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The copy must be permanent. So it can not expire. Studios however, can provide you other options above and beyond which could expire, etc. But the standad offer can not be temporary or have count limits.
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We just received a new version of firmware for testing so I cannot say to what extent the performance on these titles will improve. I'll find out shortly and let you know.

Thanks. However it looks like the BDP-S1 firmware update is now generally available for download (see thread in BD Players forum). Do you have a full release notes available for the firmware so we can see everything that got fixed? This firmware update is a move in the right direction for Sony, increases confidence in the player, and would seem to bring it in line with the Pioneer in terms of playability of discs.
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Howdy HD DVD insiders:

I was wondering if any of you got a sense as to how committed the studios were with regards to HD DVD/DVD combo discs.

Paramount is still a no-show and Warner seems to have slowed somewhat. I would venture that TotalHD discs are going to be a priority for Warner over HD DVD/DVD combo discs, but any word on how much studios will continue to use them?


p.s. they are still my preferred disc choice as they are convenient for use other family and lending out, while at the same time saving me the cost of buying both and helping cut down on shelf space... hopefully these aren't going away any time soon...
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Question: Hitatchi has announced that they have developed a 4 layer 200 GB Blu-ray disc that is playable on current players after a firmware upgrade. Do you feel that HD DVD could do the same for TL-51? Offer a firmware upgrade to make all players compliant?

Is the Hitachi proposal for ROM movie distribution? I have only seen >50 gigabyte proposals for recordable, not ROM. But perhaps I missed it. If you give me a link, I will read and comment.
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