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post #31 of 260 Old 10-09-2007, 07:23 PM
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HD VMD players are extremely versatile and compelling from both a technological and performance perspective. HD VMDs have a maximum data transfer rate of 40 Mbps versus 36 Mbps for HD DVD and Blu-ray, which gives it the potential of sharper more detailed pictures over the competing formats.


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They claim more bandwidth than Blu Ray or HD DVD on they're website

http://www.nmeinc.com/index.aspx

According to wikipedia
HD-DVD has a raw data transfer rate of 36.55 Mbp/s
Blu-ray has a raw data transfer rate of 53.95 Mbit/s (but max 40 Mbit/s for video).

So aren't they incorrect? If they are using the raw data transfer rate don't they have less bandwidth than Blu-ray (or am I/wikipedia wrong)?

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Also, according to amazon.com, they don't start shipping in the US till the first week of November 2007.

Also, there's no titles available for it yet at amazon.com.

Are they going to sell these players and some titles in the UK? If so when and where?
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But for now, the HD VMD players are basically $200 doorstops.

That is 'lil severe no? It does play dvds and if the sigma chip is implemented correctly than a capable scaler.

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Its got a sigma processor so I will go out on a limb and say the pq will be on par with HD DVD as it is running the same codec's mainly VC1, now I think the audio will be regular DD but that is not a bad movie library if available when the players actually hit. So again price will matter for JSP as has been said they only look at price but I think these will go nowhere as "where are you going to buy one"?

Well, at the $189 price point, this will be initially attractive to the niche markets that NME is targeting first. For the current limited selection of videos available in this format, it is a competent 1080P Hi-def player and a competent upconverter of DVDs to 1080p.

This red laser format could well turn out to be the low-cost alternative to Blu-ray.
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Forget about content. Price doesn't make a hill of beans difference without extensive mass distribution. An NME store at Amazon is meaningless. When the players get into Best Buy, Sears, Wal-Mart, Target, Circuit City, etc etc ... then you have mainstream product.
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They might be on to something I might go out on a limb and purchase it just to see what it is about.I know I might be in the dark but hell this may turn out to be the real format winner. I think HD and Blu ray are not 2 about this
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This is similar to fluorescent multilayer discs, I'd would've liked to see that succeed. I believe it has more expandability, that is it's easier to add more fluorescent layers of data. That tech is called HD-DMD now, and doesn't really look like it's going anywhere.
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Blasst, what titles do you have? Any pics of the cases and discs?
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Right now, all I have are demo discs.

The cases I don't believe are final product.




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This format has no fanboys which is a huge plus.

My mom works for Sony, and she brought home a copy of "Starhawk BETA"
I quickly slipped it into my trusty PS3, and started playing.


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I like the design of the players. Makes the current HD DVD and BR players look klutzy. A little digging found that this technology is not only compatible with red lasers but also with blue lasers, if and when that technology becomes mainstream (according to the company's web site).

It's an interesting technology. I wish them well. More choice is better, right?

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Nice, thanks for sharing the pics blasst
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Hopefully both HD DVD and Blu-Ray have enough momentum to smash this HD VMD thing as quick as possible. There is enough confusion with two formats, a third isn't needed.
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Interesting that at least 2 of those demo disks are only dual layer disk and not the 4 layers they say is possible.
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Transformers vs. Pirates of the Caribbean 3 vs. David Hasselhoff in Jekyll & Hyde the Musical.

This holiday season will be a fierce battle between the 3 formats!
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Transformers vs. Pirates of the Caribbean 3 vs. David Hasselhoff in Jekyll & Hyde the Musical.

This holiday season will be a fierce battle between the 3 formats!

Hahaha don't underestimate the Hoff!

On a serious note, I'd actually like to see these things get some traction. Why? Morbid curiosity.

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Hahaha don't underestimate the Hoff!

On a serious note, I'd actually like to see these things get some traction. Why? Morbid curiosity.

Well, if you think about it, what is one of the most frustrating things to you as an HDM owner? To me, a huge problem is that I'm a fan of many weird old obscure films. If HD VMD starts rolling out interesting "B" movies left and right in HD, I'll buy one up ASAP.
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Wouldn't that be the wildest thing that's ever happened if this thing ended up being the unified high def format? After 2 years of bloody trench warfare something needs to break the stalemate.
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Does anybody know where this format stands with burning? do they have burners out? Can it support Hi def red laser disks similar to HD DVD's 3x dvd?
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This format has no fanboys which is a huge plus.

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Well, if you think about it, what is one of the most frustrating things to you as an HDM owner? To me, a huge problem is that I'm a fan of many weird old obscure films. If HD VMD starts rolling out interesting "B" movies left and right in HD, I'll buy one up ASAP.

Yep I couldn't agree more. I'm a huge fan of "B" movies and with this format being pretty inexpensive I would buy into it just for the obscure movies. There could be some really interesting releases down the road with this format being region free.
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This format has no fanboys which is a huge plus.

But it will soon...

HD VMD has a higher bitrate so that will make the BR fans switch.
HD VMD does not have lossless audio which will make the HD DVD fans switch.

AND...it has Lazytown! Who wouldn't want to see Stephanie and the gang in HD?!

Oh, did I mention it has more players than any other format! (All PC DVD drives will play these discs with a minor FW update).
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This format has no fanboys which is a huge plus.

You're wrong! Let me formerly announce to the world that I am an HD VMD fanboy.

I read somewhere here that this format does lossless (PCM) but not TrueHD.

Both sides are afraid of this format and for good reason. This is a format the studios could easily support and dump the other two with all the baggage they each carry! Wouldn't it be ironic if all studios came to support this format while being exclusive to one of the others. While BD and HD DVD throw FUD at each other this one could sneak right up the middle - I sure hope so since it would put a lot of people here (who really need to get a life) out of work.

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You're wrong! Let me formerly announce to the world that I am an HD VMD fanboy.

I agree... this format looks pretty bloody good! If they come out with some good disk authoring software anytime soon... then I'm kissing this blue laser crap goodbye.... who needs the expense of it!!??
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Hahaha don't underestimate the Hoff!

On a serious note, I'd actually like to see these things get some traction. Why? Morbid curiosity.

very true. i could see jekyll & hyde outsell transformers and pirates in germany. The germans love this guy. But then everyone probably already owns jekyll & hyde so it would probably end up being a double dip for them which could cut into the sales.
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This is supposed to be a 3 layer 15GB disc format read by a Red Laser. It is then supposed to go to 6 layers - 30GB.

So which title is 15GB?

No problems reading the 3rd layer? I mean all the uninformed are says that HD DVD can't read a 3rd layer . . . but HD VMD can?

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This is supposed to be a 3 layer 15GB disc format read by a Red Laser. It is then supposed to go to 6 layers - 30GB.

So which title is 15GB?

No problems reading the 3rd layer? I mean all the uninformed are says that HD DVD can't read a 3rd layer . . . but HD VMD can?

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VMD is precisely the same size and thickness as DVD. While DVD technology utilizes two layers of a disc, VMD technology has conceived multi-layering, whereby the storage capacity is dramatically increased. Each additional layer adds approximately up to 5 GB of memory over a standard DVD disc. VMD provides the ability to place up to 20 layers on a single disc with no quality loss in the content stored. This means capacity to record 100 GB or more.

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I am actually very intrigued by HD VMD.

I don't think it has a realistic chance to be the HDM successor to DVD (at least in NA), but it could be a nice niche player if it can get a good library of independent, "B" and foreign movies that for the most part have been neglected by BD/HD DVD

For instance, I would definitely buy a reasonably priced VMD player if they get deals with large Asian studios/distributors to release Asian movies on VMD here in the US
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I am actually very intrigued by HD VMD.

I don't think it has a realistic chance to be the HDM successor to DVD (at least in NA), but it could be a nice niche player if it can get a good library of independent, "B" and foreign movies that for the most part have been neglected by BD/HD DVD

For instance, I would definitely buy a reasonably priced VMD player if they get deals with large Asian studios/distributors to release Asian movies on VMD here in the US

Why would they do that? What about CH-DVD?
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Why would they do that? What about CH-DVD?

I could be totally wrong here but my impression was that CH-DVD is primarily targeting China and the Asian market - i.e. selling players and movies to China/Asia

What my post refers to is distribution of Chinese and other Asian films in the US; I think there's a large niche for such HDM content in the US and I'm hoping that VMD can land distribution deals to release Asian movies in the US

For instance ala Weinstein Company's deal to repackage and distribute Chinese action films in the US under the "Dragon Dynasty" label, I'm hoping that VMD can do similar deals
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