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Added The ABC Murders and Too Old to Die Young (both Amazon).

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I don't know whether Netflix's miniseries-ization of Tarantino's The Hateful Eight really qualifies as a "TV show," exactly. But it's four episodes, which is nearly as many as Chernobyl, so I put it on the list.

Assuming you believe it qualifies, we have a new record for widest aspect ratio at 2.76:1.
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Netflix Star Trek Discovery is 2.0:1 first season and 2.35:1 second season.

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Netflix Star Trek Discovery is 2.0:1 first season and 2.35:1 second season.

That's on the list under CBS All Access, which is where the show streams in the U.S. I'll add a note that it's on Netflix in other countries. Thanks.

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The Boys on Amazon Prime is 2.39:1.
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The Boys on Amazon Prime is 2.39:1.

Thanks. I've just added that, plus Another Life on Netflix.

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The second season of The OA has been available for a few months, but I'm just getting around to watching it now.

Season 1 was entirely 16:9 as far as I remember. Season 2 is kind of a mess for aspect ratios.

Ep. 1 - 2.20:1
Ep. 2 - 2.20:1 except for the final scene, which opens up to 16:9
Ep. 3 - Entirely 16:9
Ep. 4 & 5 - Back to 2.20:1
Ep. 6 - 16:9
Ep. 7 & 8 - 2.20:1

It's possible there may be some other varying-ratio scenes that I haven't picked up on yet. This is all very frustrating to watch on a 2.35:1 screen.

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Two Sentence Horror Stories, now airing on the CW network, is 2.00:1.

This is the first broadcast network show I can remember seeing in 2.00:1.
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The second season of The OA has been available for a few months, but I'm just getting around to watching it now.

Season 1 was entirely 16:9 as far as I remember. Season 2 is kind of a mess for aspect ratios.

Ep. 1 - 2.20:1
Ep. 2 - 2.20:1 except for the final scene, which opens up to 16:9
Ep. 3 - Entirely 16:9
Ep. 4 & 5 - Back to 2.20:1
Ep. 6 - 16:9
Ep. 7 & 8 - 2.20:1

It's possible there may be some other varying-ratio scenes that I haven't picked up on yet. This is all very frustrating to watch on a 2.35:1 screen.
I wonder what possible logic there could be from the creatives to do this?

If my screen were large enough I'd almost be tempted to just watch this in 16:9 mode and let the wider ratios be letterboxed (which is how it will be presented for the 99% of watching on TVs or tablets). But it's malpractice on the part of the show runners.
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I wonder what possible logic there could be from the creatives to do this?

If my screen were large enough I'd almost be tempted to just watch this in 16:9 mode and let the wider ratios be letterboxed (which is how it will be presented for the 99% of watching on TVs or tablets). But it's malpractice on the part of the show runners.
But it is TV. The creators are making a show to be enjoyed on TV sets and tablets. There is no malpractice it is up to us projector viewers to adapt some standard that suits our tastes for this media if we want to watch it.

I have said 100 times and been told 1000 that TV has no place or standing in CIH movie presentation. It is its own unique thing to be presented as the viewer likes best. In my case with a stealth screen wall I like this media sized a little larger than network TV and a little smaller than 1.85 cinema. If the image flip flops back and forth between 2.20 and 1.77 I don’t even notice it as there is no fixed frame of reference.

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But it is TV. The creators are making a show to be enjoyed on TV sets and tablets. There is no malpractice it is up to us projector viewers to adapt some standard that suits our tastes for this media if we want to watch it.

I have said 100 times and been told 1000 that TV has no place or standing in CIH movie presentation. It is its own unique thing to be presented as the viewer likes best. In my case with a stealth screen wall I like this media sized a little larger than network TV and a little smaller than 1.85 cinema. If the image flip flops back and forth between 2.20 and 1.77 I don’t even notice it as there is no fixed frame of reference.
I'll always be ride or die for CIH, but Bud's got a point on this one. An episodic show that changes AR between or even within episodes is probably best represented on a Bud-style as-you-wish system.
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If my screen were large enough I'd almost be tempted to just watch this in 16:9 mode and let the wider ratios be letterboxed (which is how it will be presented for the 99% of watching on TVs or tablets).
You know, I tried that. But the show also has frustrating photography with flat contrast and elevated black levels (even in supposed HDR). It looks pretty terrible floating in the middle of my scope screen with darker black bars all around.

It's a no-win scenario.
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I wonder what possible logic there could be from the creatives to do this?

It seems that there is some purpose to it. The story takes place across two alternate dimensions, and the aspect ratios indicate the transition from one to the other. Which then makes sense why all of the first season was 16:9.
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It seems that there is some purpose to it. The story takes place across two alternate dimensions, and the aspect ratios indicate the transition from one to the other. Which then makes sense why all of the first season was 16:9.
We can only hope they write in a third Alternate Dimension into the story line. Wouldn’t it be awesome if it was filmed Academy 1.375:1.

So far ARs have been sticking to rectangles a few are rectangles with the corners rounded off. I’m ready to see some other shapes. Also they seem to be dragging their feet on AR transitions. Why not more blending than the sudden switches? I always loved the Bond film openings where they had him in a round iris moving around the screen with swirls of red and black. Now I know those are not ARs but in today’s digital world of these TV shows especially what really is AR anymore? Pixels can be turned off in any arrangement the director likes and we get to see what is left. In The old days directors had to be cleaver in how they got such things on the film, but today it is as simple as photo-shop. So if part of the screen is filled with black it is the AR of the shot. If it adds anything to the movie or TV show is a matter of artistic interpretation. All I’m certain of is the director wasn’t planning for us to mask what is black or resize it in any meaningful way. It is just shapes on a 16:9 canvas that is TV.

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Netflix canceled the show. No more dimensions.

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Netflix canceled the show. No more dimensions.



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That’s what I’m talking about. I forgot about that one it was very Brady Bunch.

Really we live in a world of windows these days. Masking has always been hard. In a movie the director might be giving it some thought, but in the world of TV it has never been a concern of the directors.

As to Netflix canceling a show, never say never.

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It seems that there is some purpose to it. The story takes place across two alternate dimensions, and the aspect ratios indicate the transition from one to the other. Which then makes sense why all of the first season was 16:9.
I finished watching the show last night. The last episode is mostly 2.20:1, but the final scene transitions to 2.35:1.

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I don't subscribe to Hulu. IMBb claims that the anthology series Dimension 404 is 2.0:1. Can someone who subscribes verify that? Is that the case for all episodes, or just selected episodes?

Is there anything else on Hulu that the list is missing?

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Just added a whole bunch of titles under Netflix. Kind of disappointed that nobody pointed out to me that GLOW was missing from the list.

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I don't subscribe to Hulu. IMBb claims that the anthology series Dimension 404 is 2.0:1. Can someone who subscribes verify that? Is that the case for all episodes, or just selected episodes?

Is there anything else on Hulu that the list is missing?
Yes, it's 2:1. All episodes.
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I've added a section for Disney+. The trailer for The Mandalorian is 2.35:1.



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Added Carnival Row and The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.

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Netflix's The Spy measures 2.10:1. I noticed that it was slightly different than The Dark Crystal at 2.20:1. It's possible that some of the other titles on my list that I have as 2.20 may actually be closer to 2.10, but I don't have the time to validate all of them all over again (much less to pixel count to make sure none of them are something like 2.15:1).

What's going on at some of these post-production facilities that so many shows are winding up with so many different non-standard aspect ratios? How does the decision even get made that a series will be 2.10:1?

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What's going on at some of these post-production facilities that so many shows are winding up with so many different non-standard aspect ratios? How does the decision even get made that a series will be 2.10:1?
It’s maddening for sure. Not much different than prior to 1970 we had 2.35 and now we have 2.39 that most wrongly call 2.35 or 2.40.

As your Title calls these TV shows wider than 16:9 even though most watch them shorter than 16:9. Some, even many IMO live up to the wider definition but there are some I think really should play shorter as they are just TV pretending to impress with a wide screen feel. That’s all up to the viewer to decide as to how they work into their presentation method. As this is the CIH forum I guess here they are all wider.

Just out of curiosity are you setting up presets for all these ratios and then consulting the list before watching a show and selecting the proper AR?

Is there software that will detect the AR of an image and then automatically expand the height for CIH making the proper adjustments? That might be what is needed in the future if it’s not here already.

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Just out of curiosity are you setting up presets for all these ratios and then consulting the list before watching a show and selecting the proper AR?
I have programmed zoom presets into my projector for 16:9, 1.85:1, 2.0:1, 2.10:1, 2.20:1, and 2.35:1 so far.

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The Lumagen Radiance Pro will do this, but it uses scaling to adjust the image. It's intended to be used with either an anamorphic lens or a fixed 2.35:1 zoom.
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I have programmed zoom presets into my projector for 16:9, 1.85:1, 2.0:1, 2.10:1, 2.20:1, and 2.35:1 so far.



The Lumagen Radiance Pro will do this, but it uses scaling to adjust the image. It's intended to be used with either an anamorphic lens or a fixed 2.35:1 zoom.

THANK YOU so much for listing your presets.
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THANK YOU so much for listing your presets.

There's at least one show on this list (Strange Angel) confirmed to measure 1.9:1, but that's so close to 1.85:1 that it didn't seem worth making a preset for. (Also, I don't subscribe to CBS All Access yet anyway.)

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The list continues to grow. I make updates to it regularly when scanning through Netflix and Amazon original programming. Many are shows I've never heard of.

The I-Land and Unbelievable on Netflix are new series at 2.0:1. Free Meek on Amazon is 2.20:1.

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If anyone here is a subscriber to CBS All Access, could you confirm the aspect ratio for Why Women Kill? Thanks.

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