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I love my TX-RZ920 - Paid about $1200 for it and it is as good as I need, it is a fine AVR. But I compared to the TX-RZ830 on the Onkyo site and it seems to match up well and even beat the TX-RZ920 in a few categories like better DAC on all channels. Why is the TX-RZ830 so much cheaper? What am I missing?

Also, the 830 has advanced AccuEQ while the more expensive 920 has regular AccuEQ. AccuEQ does not correct the front L/R, but AccuEQ "Advanced" does every channel.

No brainer deal if from what I can see.
I hear ya. Love my 920... But paid $1,000 in Nov 2017. Killer deal at the time.

The 830 was a super deal at 499. Unbelievable, in fact. Would have bought one if I was upgrading from a non-Atmos AVR.

In addition you the differences you listed:
1. 920 has digital Amps and draws no more than 310W. 830 is rated to draw 830W
2. 920 has a dedicated stereo DAC for fronts L and R, and the 830 drives front Land R via it's single multichannel DAC.
3. 920 has block construction that separates the analog and digital circuitry.

Items above definitely impact cost.

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I confirmed in the rz920 thread that the 920's AccuEQ does correct the front speakers.
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does your rz920 eq 2 subs separately?
Not sure but I think so.

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@golden78. This is from the RZ920 manual.

18. SUBWOOFER PREOUT JACKS:
Connect a powered subwoofer with a subwoofer cable. Up to two powered subwoofers can be connected. You can set the volumn levels of the 2 powered subwoofers to different levels.
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Does Onkyo include an owners manual with the 830, I'm guessing not.
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Does Onkyo include an owners manual with the 830, I'm guessing not.
mine did not
I downloaded it https://www.onkyousa.com/Products/mo...urce=prodClass
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Thanks. I did a little more searching and found the manual download.
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Still waiting on mine. Ordered Monday 2/25 morning, got order acknowledgment email nearly right away, they charged my card Monday 2/25, and no receiver yet 7 days later.

I tried using the order status on the web site, but it won't recognize my order. I tried calling over the weekend and they said they can't give order status on weekends and that I would have to call in Monday to talk to parts and service. I called just now and got a recording saying due to inclement weather their offices are closed today. So, I still have no idea when it will arrive.

I suspect it will arrive soon but it is annoying not to ever get a tracking number in this day and age so I am mostly just venting a little.
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Still waiting on mine. Ordered Monday 2/25 morning, got order acknowledgment email nearly right away, they charged my card Monday 2/25, and no receiver yet 7 days later.

I tried using the order status on the web site, but it won't recognize my order. I tried calling over the weekend and they said they can't give order status on weekends and that I would have to call in Monday to talk to parts and service. I called just now and got a recording saying due to inclement weather their offices are closed today. So, I still have no idea when it will arrive.

I suspect it will arrive soon but it is annoying not to ever get a tracking number in this day and age so I am mostly just venting a little.
After I got my FedEx delivery notification I emailed onkyo and asked for a tracking number to verify that the FedEx update was from them

its coming from CA, depending on where you live it could take 6 days

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Ordered 2/23/2019 got order confirmation same day, no shipping notice so I called 3/1/2019 and they verbally gave me a tracking #.
As of this this morning FedEx is saying delivery by end of day. Last scan was 11:03 pm in Pittsfield Mass. I expect I will get a shipping delay notice today as it is snowing in northern Maine this morning.
Shipping time for me is about right with FedEx ground traveling coast to coast.
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I got the initial FedEx notification informing it was shipped and expected arrival date. I didn't receive anything afterwards until the day of delivery. Even logging into FedEx only showed shipped and due date, with nothing in between during its travels. Frustrating but it will get to you....especially will it traveling from west coast and winter weather in between coasts.
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I got home from work and hooked it up. I am so glad that I use banana plugs....this is the 3rd time I've replaced the receiver in my system in just over a month. A little background: I will be comparing this receiver to TX-NR3030 and TX-RZ900, and TX-NR787. I am mainly looking to hear if I can hear that "ole school" Onkyo sound that the NR3030 and RZ900 has. I have no complaints about the NR787 other than it doesn't produce that ole Onkyo sound. My system consists of Klipsch RP-280fa fronts, RP-450c center, RP-160m rear/surround, RP-500as rear atmos, and HSU Research VTF-15H MK2 subwoofer. We know the Klipsch are efficient, so not worried about it having the power. A Samsung MU800 will provide the display and a Samsung UHD M9500 will be used for movies and playing music off a CD.

I will run the Advance AccuEq and see how it compares to the normal AccuEq on the NR787, which by the way set my fronts to 40Hz, Center 40Hz, Rear/Surrounds 60Hz, and the Atmos speakers to 80Hz. Of course, I manually changed those. Note, I keep saying Rear/Surrounds. This is because my configuration is 5.1.4 which places the speakers slightly to the side and rear of the listening position.

It's close to 6 PM here on the east coast and I most likely will not get to listen to music and movies at a reference level. Don't want my neighbor ringing my bell again, as that happened one night I was sipping and didn't realize it was 2:00 AM and listening at a level that had his wife complaining that my sub was vibrating their bed. (I won't go there ) I'll try to tune things in tonight and run home at lunchtime tomorrow to listen at reference level and report back.
Hi, could you post review? thanks
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A quick and dirty review. A reminder that I am comparing against NR3030, RZ900, and NR787. Set-up was uneventful and AccuEQ set everything exactly as the NR787 had. (Read above post for those settings) I really couldn't see or hear anything that Advanced AccuEQ was doing differently; nothing in the menus either....well maybe the test tones were a lit bit quieter. Front speakers were set at -4 in the receiver and all the others were in the low negatives also. The sub was set at -7. After doing a real quick listen, I set the sub to -4.5 and raised the Dolby Atmos speakers to 0. For music, I had to turn up the volume on the sub from 9:00 to about 12:00 to get the bass that I wanted. I had to do the same thing with the NR787. When left at this setting for movies, it gets down low and dirty.....and probably could be moved back to about 10-11:00 and be fine for movies....but I kept the 12:00 settings because I like it down and dirty

So how does it sound compared to the other receivers? Does it have the sound of the NR3030 or RZ900. Sadly, I'll have to say no it doesn't. I thought the same thing about the RZ3100 that replaced the NR3030 for a very, very short time. If (when) the RZ3100 replacement comes out and it doesn't have the ole sound, I'll have to throw in the towel for hoping to achieve it and probably will eventually move the NR3030 to amplifier duties; terrible to even think it has to be like that. The next question is how does it sound compared to the NR787, well if I listen very carefully, I can detect just a bit more clarity, especially from horn instruments (I think). Played at a low or normal listening level, they are very close. Crank it up to neighborhood disturbance mode, and the better amps in the RZ830 come to life. I, however, have neighbors on both sides of me and don't get to turn the volume to the right too far for too long.

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$499 shipped. $499 shipped, let me say that again $499 shipped. I don't think you will find anything better than this receiver at this price.

The weight is about half a pound less than the RZ900 meaning it is more substantial than the NR787. I will contribute that to the amps and power supply, which weight often equates to power. The height is about an inch higher than the NR787 and caused me to have to move my UHD player so I could ensure the amp had "ample" breathing space above. It's also a tad deeper than the NR787, so I completely removed the back panel in the area behind the receiver.

All the menus are typical Onkyo, so no learning curve.

The design is more pleasing to me than the NR series receivers. I know that is a matter of personal taste.

The ability to use an external amplifier....though it has limitations.

Dislikes

My biggest dislike is that Onkyo has lost its ole school sound.

Not really a dislike, but "exactly" what is Advanced AccuEQ doing any different from the regular flavor....could this marketing hype.

That one line display still gives me just a bit of irritation but hey it is not a deal breaker.

Not enough difference between it and the NR787 to really distinguish itself. Again, at the price point what should I expect. But, at the MSRP this would be a point of contention.

My last dislike (it is probably my Samsung TV fault)... I can never get ARC to just be a plug and play event. It's, turn it on, turn it off, unplug, turn it back on and doing the same thing on the TV to get it to recognize each other. The NR787 was exactly the same way.

Like I said at the begining, this was short and dirty and my opinion. For those that didn't own or experience the older Onkyo receivers, my ole school Onkyo sound comments should not come into play for you.
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Did you compared old and new Onkyo without EQ engaged?
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No I didn't disengage EQ. I will do that this weekend and see if things change much between the two. I still have the NR787. I was conducting a real-world initial test at how I listen to them. I know some people prefer not to use AccuEQ.
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I have all Klipsch speakers 7.2.2
2 subs
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I upgraded from the denon x2200w 7.1 to this rz830. For 499. I am pretty happy with the sound.
First thing I notice was how clear everything sounds, very crisp.
After running accueq all were in negative also
I bumped up my 2 subs and my side sorrounds very little.
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No I didn't disengage EQ. I will do that this weekend and see if things change much between the two. I still have the NR787. I was conducting a real-world initial test at how I listen to them. I know some people prefer not to use AccuEQ.
It's really the only way to compare two different units. Otherwise you are just comparing room EQ.

Post the results.
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↑ Point well taken. However, I wanted to compare it in the environment that I will be using it in first, to get up and running for the weekend. If I have time this week, I'll disable EQ and give them both another round. In my room in this particular house, EQ tends to help out with the sound. In my other home, it doesn't help as much. Keep in mind my NR3030 and RZ900 are located in my other home and was only referenced for the ole school sound. Everything else is only in comparison of the RZ830 and NR787.

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Just got an email from Accessories4less. They have refurb RZ830's back in stock for $549 if you missed the sale at Onkyo.
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Finally got my TX-RZ830 today 8 days after ordering.

Hooked it up with headphones to play with after work. Certainly nice having so many network choices compared to my 12 year old TX-875 which had none. Time will tell when I hook it up to speakers and really run it through its paces.
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A quick and dirty review. A reminder that I am comparing against NR3030, RZ900, and NR787. Set-up was uneventful and AccuEQ set everything exactly as the NR787 had. (Read above post for those settings) I really couldn't see or hear anything that Advanced AccuEQ was doing differently; nothing in the menus either....well maybe the test tones were a lit bit quieter. Front speakers were set at -4 in the receiver and all the others were in the low negatives also. The sub was set at -7. After doing a real quick listen, I set the sub to -4.5 and raised the Dolby Atmos speakers to 0. For music, I had to turn up the volume on the sub from 9:00 to about 12:00 to get the bass that I wanted. I had to do the same thing with the NR787. When left at this setting for movies, it gets down low and dirty.....and probably could be moved back to about 10-11:00 and be fine for movies....but I kept the 12:00 settings because I like it down and dirty



So how does it sound compared to the other receivers? Does it have the sound of the NR3030 or RZ900. Sadly, I'll have to say no it doesn't. I thought the same thing about the RZ3100 that replaced the NR3030 for a very, very short time. If (when) the RZ3100 replacement comes out and it doesn't have the ole sound, I'll have to throw in the towel for hoping to achieve it and probably will eventually move the NR3030 to amplifier duties; terrible to even think it has to be like that. The next question is how does it sound compared to the NR787, well if I listen very carefully, I can detect just a bit more clarity, especially from horn instruments (I think). Played at a low or normal listening level, they are very close. Crank it up to neighborhood disturbance mode, and the better amps in the RZ830 come to life. I, however, have neighbors on both sides of me and don't get to turn the volume to the right too far for too long.



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$499 shipped. $499 shipped, let me say that again $499 shipped. I don't think you will find anything better than this receiver at this price.



The weight is about half a pound less than the RZ900 meaning it is more substantial than the NR787. I will contribute that to the amps and power supply, which weight often equates to power. The height is about an inch higher than the NR787 and caused me to have to move my UHD player so I could ensure the amp had "ample" breathing space above. It's also a tad deeper than the NR787, so I completely removed the back panel in the area behind the receiver.



All the menus are typical Onkyo, so no learning curve.



The design is more pleasing to me than the NR series receivers. I know that is a matter of personal taste.



The ability to use an external amplifier....though it has limitations.



Dislikes



My biggest dislike is that Onkyo has lost its ole school sound.



Not really a dislike, but "exactly" what is Advanced AccuEQ doing any different from the regular flavor....could this marketing hype.



That one line display still gives me just a bit of irritation but hey it is not a deal breaker.



Not enough difference between it and the NR787 to really distinguish itself. Again, at the price point what should I expect. But, at the MSRP this would be a point of contention.



My last dislike (it is probably my Samsung TV fault)... I can never get ARC to just be a plug and play event. It's, turn it on, turn it off, unplug, turn it back on and doing the same thing on the TV to get it to recognize each other. The NR787 was exactly the same way.



Like I said at the begining, this was short and dirty and my opinion. For those that didn't own or experience the older Onkyo receivers, my ole school Onkyo sound comments should not come into play for you.
Thanks for that. What are the limitations with external amplifiers?
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After I got my FedEx delivery notification I emailed onkyo and asked for a tracking number to verify that the FedEx update was from them

its coming from CA, depending on where you live it could take 6 days
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A quick and dirty review. A reminder that I am comparing against NR3030, RZ900, and NR787. Set-up was uneventful and AccuEQ set everything exactly as the NR787 had. (Read above post for those settings) I really couldn't see or hear anything that Advanced AccuEQ was doing differently; nothing in the menus either....well maybe the test tones were a lit bit quieter. Front speakers were set at -4 in the receiver and all the others were in the low negatives also. The sub was set at -7. After doing a real quick listen, I set the sub to -4.5 and raised the Dolby Atmos speakers to 0. For music, I had to turn up the volume on the sub from 9:00 to about 12:00 to get the bass that I wanted. I had to do the same thing with the NR787. When left at this setting for movies, it gets down low and dirty.....and probably could be moved back to about 10-11:00 and be fine for movies....but I kept the 12:00 settings because I like it down and dirty

So how does it sound compared to the other receivers? Does it have the sound of the NR3030 or RZ900. Sadly, I'll have to say no it doesn't. I thought the same thing about the RZ3100 that replaced the NR3030 for a very, very short time. If (when) the RZ3100 replacement comes out and it doesn't have the ole sound, I'll have to throw in the towel for hoping to achieve it and probably will eventually move the NR3030 to amplifier duties; terrible to even think it has to be like that. The next question is how does it sound compared to the NR787, well if I listen very carefully, I can detect just a bit more clarity, especially from horn instruments (I think). Played at a low or normal listening level, they are very close. Crank it up to neighborhood disturbance mode, and the better amps in the RZ830 come to life. I, however, have neighbors on both sides of me and don't get to turn the volume to the right too far for too long.

Likes

$499 shipped. $499 shipped, let me say that again $499 shipped. I don't think you will find anything better than this receiver at this price.

The weight is about half a pound less than the RZ900 meaning it is more substantial than the NR787. I will contribute that to the amps and power supply, which weight often equates to power. The height is about an inch higher than the NR787 and caused me to have to move my UHD player so I could ensure the amp had "ample" breathing space above. It's also a tad deeper than the NR787, so I completely removed the back panel in the area behind the receiver.

All the menus are typical Onkyo, so no learning curve.

The design is more pleasing to me than the NR series receivers. I know that is a matter of personal taste.

The ability to use an external amplifier....though it has limitations.

Dislikes

My biggest dislike is that Onkyo has lost its ole school sound.

Not really a dislike, but "exactly" what is Advanced AccuEQ doing any different from the regular flavor....could this marketing hype.

That one line display still gives me just a bit of irritation but hey it is not a deal breaker.

Not enough difference between it and the NR787 to really distinguish itself. Again, at the price point what should I expect. But, at the MSRP this would be a point of contention.

My last dislike (it is probably my Samsung TV fault)... I can never get ARC to just be a plug and play event. It's, turn it on, turn it off, unplug, turn it back on and doing the same thing on the TV to get it to recognize each other. The NR787 was exactly the same way.

Like I said at the begining, this was short and dirty and my opinion. For those that didn't own or experience the older Onkyo receivers, my ole school Onkyo sound comments should not come into play for you.
Just set up my 830 yesterday.
I had zero luck getting ARC to work with LG 55E8 and yes, I used new certified cables. When you got ARC to work, how long would it last, or is it intermittent? I need to decide whether to plug all hdmi cables into LG and use toslink for audio.
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Just set up my 830 yesterday.

I had zero luck getting ARC to work with LG 55E8 and yes, I used new certified cables. When you got ARC to work, how long would it last, or is it intermittent? I need to decide whether to plug all hdmi cables into LG and use toslink for audio.
What other hdmi devices do you have plugged into the AVR?

Often one of those is disrupting hdmi-cec (and in turn arc) for the others.

For instance my Vero 4k media player causes this problem if it is powered off.

Does Arc work without any other hdmi devices connected (unplug other hdmi devices, unplug power to TV and AVR, plug in power, then test ARC)?
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What other hdmi devices do you have plugged into the AVR?

Often one of those is disrupting hdmi-cec (and in turn arc) for the others.

For instance my Vero 4k media player causes this problem if it is powered off.

Does Arc work without any other hdmi devices connected (unplug other hdmi devices, unplug power to TV and AVR, plug in power, then test ARC)?
Interesting, currently I have Dish network Hopper/Joey 3, PS4, Oppo BDP-93 and Apple TV 4k.
I will try your suggestion today and report back.
Thank you.

I was skeptical but your advice is working, I just hope it continues.
I vaguely recall reading several months back about people having issues with Apple TV 4k, not sure if it was ARC related or not.
I unplugged the onkyo and LG TV as well as all HDMI cables to the Onkyo and LG, waited 10 minutes then plugged in both units, then I connected only the HDMI from the Onkyo to the LG. Powered up both units, reset the LG back to default, went through all the steps in setting up Dish and it worked. I then powered down the Onkyo and reconnected the Apple (lost Dish signal momentarily), PS4 and Oppo HDMI inputs and powered up the Onkyo and held my breath!
Sorry if I over simplified the procedure but if it helps even one other person it will be worth it.
Finally, don't forget to modify ARC/HDMI settings in Onkyo.
Thanks again!
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Question for everyone in here... The $499 price was amazing but I, unfortunately, missed it and the price is still around 650-700 at other places and at Onkyo it has gone back up to like 1200-1300 dollars, not sure on exact numbers. My question is, what is the Reciever really worth in terms of sound quality? Does it sound like a $1,300 Reciever or more like a $500-$600 Reciever? Just trying to add quality to price and get your guys' impressions on the Reciever. I personally have the Old old HT-S6300 that came with Onkyo Speakers and the sound quality of the Reciever is still very amazing with 7.1, just don't have ATMOS etc.

The person who shared his down and dirty impressions sounded like he was a bit disappointed as the new receiver didn't sound like his old NX receiver. Similarly, I just tried the Denon x4500H myself and was not impressed by the thin sound from it. The extra bells and whistles were nice and Atmos with the right content sounded amazing but was missing overall heft so I returned it. I thought the RZ830 would be better suited for my needs and at this price its a no brainer with some small stuff missing.
However, I do wanna make sure the sound quality is still of a top tier model and similar to old school Onkyo sound and not the thin sound.
Appreciate your guys' opinions, thanks!

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Question for everyone in here... The $499 price was amazing but I, unfortunately, missed it and the price is still around 650-700 at other places and at Onkyo it has gone back up to like 1200-1300 dollars, not sure on exact numbers. My question is, what is the Reciever really worth in terms of sound quality? Does it sound like a $1,300 Reciever or more like a $500-$600 Reciever? Just trying to add quality to price and get your guys' impressions on the Reciever. I personally have the Old old HT-S6300 that came with Onkyo Speakers and the sound quality of the Reciever is still very amazing with 7.1, just don't have ATMOS etc.

The person who shared his down and dirty impressions sounded like he was a bit disappointed as the new receiver didn't sound like his old NX receiver. Similarly, I just tried the Denon x4500H myself and was not impressed by the thin sound from it. The extra bells and whistles were nice and Atmos with the right content sounded amazing but was missing overall heft so I returned it. I thought the RZ830 would be better suited for my needs and at this price its a no brainer with some small stuff missing.
However, I do wanna make sure the sound quality is still of a top tier model and similar to old school Onkyo sound and not the thin sound.
Appreciate your guys' opinions, thanks!
The DACs are top quality found in many models for under $1000 street price..

Your speakers are the most important sound reproducing device in the chain... If you are still using a home theater in the box set up, I would upgrade my speakers first. Then get a receiver.

if you used the Denon 4500 with your existing Onkyo speakers, you pretty much wasted your time. Because you prevented yourself from understanding and observing the true quality of the Denon. Or the Onkyo RZ830 for that matter IF you were to sample it with your speakers.

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The DACs are top quality found in many models for under $1000 street price..

Your speakers are the most important sound reproducing device in the chain... If you are still using a home theater in the box set up, I would upgrade my speakers first. Then get a receiver.
if you used the Denon 4500 with your existing Onkyo speakers, you pretty much wasted your time. Because you prevented yourself from understanding and observing the true quality of the Denon. Or the Onkyo RZ830 for that matter IF you were to sample it with your speakers.
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I should have specified I am not using those Onkyo speakers anymore. Now I have DefTech BP9080s and CS9080 with built in Subs and built-in Atmos Speakers and SR9040s for Surround etc. Even with these speakers, the Denon sounded weak to me and I just could not get it dialed in for bass like I have my old Onkyo Reciever and decided to return it. With that in mind, would you say RZ830 would be a good choice for me if its better than the 4500 or moe or less the same as 4500 and maybe I should wait for their new lineup to come in the Fall. Thnx!

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The DACs are top quality found in many models for under $1000 street price..

Your speakers are the most important sound reproducing device in the chain... If you are still using a home theater in the box set up, I would upgrade my speakers first. Then get a receiver.
if you used the Denon 4500 with your existing Onkyo speakers, you pretty much wasted your time. Because you prevented yourself from understanding and observing the true quality of the Denon. Or the Onkyo RZ830 for that matter IF you were to sample it with your speakers.
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I should have specified I am not using those Onkyo speakers anymore. Now I have DefTech BP9080s and CS9080 with built in Subs and built-in Atmos Speakers and SR9040s for Surround etc. Even with these speakers, the Denon sounded weak to me and I just could not get it dialed in for bass like I have my old Onkyo Reciever and decided to return it. With that in mind, would you say RZ830 would be a good choice for me if its better than the 4500 or moe or less the same as 4500 and maybe I should wait for their new lineup to come in the Fall. Thnx!
Oops I guess 🙂. You have a nice setup.

Onkyo's AccuEQ on the RZ920 dials on the sub well. I get great bass and I have not altered the subs level that AccuEQ set to during setup.

I have to assume the 830 will do just was well.. it's essentially the same software routine except that the 830 has the upgraded room correction.

As an aside, I had the Denon x3100 before the 920. Onkyo AccuEQ gets a bad rap... in my room, AccuEQ is just as good, if not better than, audyssey.

Amazon has he 830 for $600. All you need to do is verify that the seller is authorized by Onkyo. I think the 830 is definitely worth $600.

Or if you want, you can hold back and wait for the 920 to go on sale since it is near top of the line unit.

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Just got an email from Accessories4less. They have refurb RZ830's back in stock for $549 if you missed the sale at Onkyo.
I ordered one from them last Thursday and added an additional 2 year warranty for $40 for piece of mind that way I am covered for 3 years. I also bought my NR1008 back in Feb. of 2011 from A4L as a refurb and never had an issue (it was I am replacing with the RZ830 with and just for 4K and Atmos) and it is still working great to this day so if my RZ830 lasts that long for the price I paid I will be a happy man.

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You can't add amplifiers to take it up to 7.2.4. The receiver can't control it. Of course a most receivers of this caliber have the same limitations.

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Thanks for that. What are the limitations with external amplifiers?
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