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Monolith 12 in sub sale

I missed the 10 inch sub sale at 375, now the 12 inch is $100 off, not sure if the 12 inch is worth almost double price of the 10 though https://www.rakuten.com/shop/monopri...QtIUDr3Ka_dE7g
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Just ordered one thanks. Been waiting on a sale for the 10” but will try the 12
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At $659.99 on sale, it's actually $140 off the regular price of $799.99. Great deal.
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I missed the 10 inch sub sale at 375, now the 12 inch is $100 off, not sure if the 12 inch is worth almost double price of the 10 though https://www.rakuten.com/shop/monopri...QtIUDr3Ka_dE7g
Go for it. The 10 inch is competitive in its class, but the 12 inch is above its class from my understanding. MMI is right here, so I'm sure he could chime in.
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Yeah, the Monolith 12 is a big step above the Monolith 10. If budget allows, get the 12. Unless your room is very small, the 12 is well worth the $660 sale price.
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Yeah, the Monolith 12 is a big step above the Monolith 10. If budget allows, get the 12. Unless your room is very small, the 12 is well worth the $660 sale price.

The 10 works very well in my 12x12 office.


I think if the room is a bit bigger you would start seriously considering dual 10s or at least one 12.

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Well monoprice somehow messed up my shipping address by leaving off the street name when shipping. They wont fix it and will only cancel the order. Cant even reorder it threw Rakuten because i used the code already. First time using this company and dont think i will ever again
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Well monoprice somehow messed up my shipping address by leaving off the street name when shipping. They wont fix it and will only cancel the order. Cant even reorder it threw Rakuten because i used the code already. First time using this company and dont think i will ever again

That really bites that the order was botched. Rakuten isn't the greatest to buy from, but I have bought several items from their site. They really should be able to contact the shipper, FedEx or UPS, and hold the package at the shipping center it's currently at to update the shipping address. This shouldn't be difficult at all using the tracking number.

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That really bites that the order was botched. Rakuten isn't the greatest to buy from, but I have bought several items from their site. They really should be able to contact the shipper, FedEx or UPS, and hold the package at the shipping center it's currently at to update the shipping address. This shouldn't be difficult at all using the tracking number.
Seems Rakuten is making it good now so i can reorder the sub for the same price. I have no clue what happened and even fedex did not know what to do with the package as it had no adress to ship it to. They are sending it back atleast so i can get my refund.
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Seems Rakuten is making it good now so i can reorder the sub for the same price. I have no clue what happened and even fedex did not know what to do with the package as it had no adress to ship it to. They are sending it back atleast so i can get my refund.

Good to see they made it right for you and you didn't miss out on a great deal on a great sub.

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How do this one compare against the HSU VTF-3MK5?
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My sub was delivered from Rakuten today! Safe to order from.
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How does the monolith 12 compare to the svs pb-2000?
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How does the monolith 12 compare to the svs pb-2000?
From recomendations off here they are all about the same and none are a bad choice. I was looking at svs and hsu but with this deal its 140 cheaper or more than them.
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How do this one compare against the HSU VTF-3MK5?



VTF-3 mk5 hp is a 15" sub compared to the Monolith12". The VTF-3 will have a pretty substantial max output advantage higher in range, but lower in range the two subs are pretty close. The biggest caveat with the VTF-3 is possible port noise running it in 1 port mode when pushed hard or during demanding LFE. The Monolith 12 is one of the best subs available at not having port noise issues. I would say if your room isn't overly large, the Monolith 12 should be plenty of sub. For a very large room, the added headroom the VTF-3 offers gives it a big advantage. Price difference right now is about $235, so a pretty substantial difference. When the VTF-3 is less than $100 more than the Monolith 12, which is the case at their regular prices, it makes it hard not to recommend the HSU.
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VTF-3 mk5 hp is a 15" sub compared to the Monolith12". The VTF-3 will have a pretty substantial max output advantage higher in range, but lower in range the two subs are pretty close. The biggest caveat with the VTF-3 is possible port noise running it in 1 port mode when pushed hard or during demanding LFE. The Monolith 12 is one of the best subs available at not having port noise issues. I would say if your room isn't overly large, the Monolith 12 should be plenty of sub. For a very large room, the added headroom the VTF-3 offers gives it a big advantage. Price difference right now is about $235, so a pretty substantial difference. When the VTF-3 is less than $100 more than the Monolith 12, which is the case at their regular prices, it makes it hard not to recommend the HSU.
Thanks much for the detailed explanation!
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From recomendations off here they are all about the same and none are a bad choice. I was looking at svs and hsu but with this deal its 140 cheaper or more than them.
With the current promotions they both are around the same price - $650 & $660

https://www.svsound.com/collections/...00-outlet-1013

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/monoprice/product/124457
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With the current promotions they both are around the same price - $650 & $660

https://www.svsound.com/collections/...00-outlet-1013

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/monoprice/product/124457

Do note that you are comparing a new Monolith 12 to the outlet PB-2000, which is used and has some flaws/damage.

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With the current promotions they both are around the same price - $650 & $660

https://www.svsound.com/collections/...00-outlet-1013

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/monoprice/product/124457
Last night when i posted that svs did not have a sale yet. As others stated though it does have damage on the item so not really new. And there is just one or a few at that price.
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With the current promotions they both are around the same price - $650 & $660

https://www.svsound.com/collections/...00-outlet-1013

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/monoprice/product/124457
The Monolith 12 is a far better sub and from earlier threads here equivalent to an SVS PB-3000, and its new. This is really an obvious decision and no contest.
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Do note that you are comparing a new Monolith 12 to the outlet PB-2000, which is used and has some flaws/damage.
I thought they are only cosmetic flaws...please correct me if I am wrong!
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I thought they are only cosmetic flaws...please correct me if I am wrong!

The outlet units do carry the full 5 year warranty like new units. These are mostly customer returns with dent, scratches or even smashed corners, just depends on the condition of each unit. Some of them have no damage, but aren't discounted as much. With the SVS 1 year trade up policy, you could potentially be getting a sub that already has a years worth of abuse.
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VTF-3 mk5 hp is a 15" sub compared to the Monolith12". The VTF-3 will have a pretty substantial max output advantage higher in range, but lower in range the two subs are pretty close. The biggest caveat with the VTF-3 is possible port noise running it in 1 port mode when pushed hard or during demanding LFE. The Monolith 12 is one of the best subs available at not having port noise issues. I would say if your room isn't overly large, the Monolith 12 should be plenty of sub. For a very large room, the added headroom the VTF-3 offers gives it a big advantage. Price difference right now is about $235, so a pretty substantial difference. When the VTF-3 is less than $100 more than the Monolith 12, which is the case at their regular prices, it makes it hard not to recommend the HSU.
How does the VTF-2 MK5 ($540) compare against Mono 12 ($660)?

I am looking to pair them up..so dual VTF-2s vs dual Mono 12s
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How does the VTF-2 MK5 ($540) compare against Mono 12 ($660)?

I am looking to pair them up..so dual VTF-2s vs dual Mono 12s

VTF-2.5 is $607/shipped. These are both 12" subs, both with dual ports and can be operated in different configurations, including sealed. VTF-2 will be a little stronger higher in range, while the Monolith 12 will be a little stronger lower in range. You'll have much less chance of port noise in 1 port mode with the Monolith than you will with the HSU. 2 year amp warranty on the HSU, 5 year on the Monolith. VTF-2 is a bit smaller than the Monolith 12 and also lighter. The Monolith is built like a tank and has a very impressive driver compared to the driver HSU uses on the VTF-2.



VTF-2 MK5 driver



Monolith 12" and 10" drivers

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VTF-2.5 is $607/shipped. These are both 12" subs, both with dual ports and can be operated in different configurations, including sealed. VTF-2 will be a little stronger higher in range, while the Monolith 12 will be a little stronger lower in range. You'll have much less chance of port noise in 1 port mode with the Monolith than you will with the HSU. 2 year amp warranty on the HSU, 5 year on the Monolith. VTF-2 is a bit smaller than the Monolith 12 and also lighter. The Monolith is built like a tank and has a very impressive driver compared to the driver HSU uses on the VTF-2.



VTF-2 MK5 driver



Monolith 12" and 10" drivers

Can't appreciate you enough for taking time to explain my every question

I will pull the trigger on the dual Mono 12s...I have sensitive ears and won't go too loud on these...hoping I will still like the duals in low sounds and fell the difference!
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I will pull the trigger on the dual Mono 12s...I have sensitive ears and won't go too loud on these...hoping I will still like the duals in low sounds and fell the difference!



I haven't heard all of the usual suspects in the 12" ported sub market, but I have heard or owned quite a few. The Monolith 12 is the best 12" ported sub I've ever heard. It being on sale for $660 makes it an outstanding deal.

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I thought they are only cosmetic flaws...please correct me if I am wrong!
Have to look at different ones and prices range on damage. Visually is the only issues with them some might have more damage then others at the one linked that has a chunk out of the corner/ bashed in. They are all function tested and still have a full 45 day trial and 5 year warranty stated on there website. Can also do the trade up still. My thing is the monoprice is 100% new and if damaged in shipment you can get another one.
I will say monoprice has been the biggest pain with this messed up address for this order and i have had to order the same sub twice and wont get a refund till the first sub is returned even though i never recieved it. I am glad i used pay pay though. There customer service has been outstanding in the matter. I do think if the address did not get messed up i would of had the sub in 2 days from ordering it and not one issue purchasing it. Still recomended getting it even with the issues i have had.
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