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AVR Deal: Refurbished Denon X8500H for $2999

Check out this money saving deal from World Wide Stereo on a top-of-the-line AV receiver. A refurbished Denon flagship AV receiver AVR-X8500H is available for $2999 if you enter the code "AVSFORUM" at checkout. That's the lowest price that I can find on the Internet for the X8500H. Yes it's refurbished, but it's guaranteed to perform "as new" and comes with a one-year warranty. With the same AVR "new" going for a thousand bucks more right now on Amazon, that's a significant savings on such a powerful performer. Plus, it's sold from a reputable authorized dealer that provides free shipping.

Here's a link to the deal. Don't forget you have to enter the code "AVSFORUM" to get the $2999 price.

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DTS HD Master/DTS:X
DTS Neural:X
Dolby TrueHD/Dolby Atmos
Dolby Surround
Auro 3D
Multichannel stereo
Maximum number of processing (preamp) channels: 13.2
Mono block power amp construction: Yes (L/R separated)
Discrete power amplifier
DDSC HD Digital (32-bit)
Pure Direct
Gold-plated RCA terminals
Clock jitter reducer
Alpha processing: AL32 processing multichannel
Denon Link HD
Audyssey: MultEQ XT32
Audyssey Dynamic EQ/Dynamic Volume
Audyssey LFC
Compressed audio restorer
DLNA certified
Lossy formats: Mp3/WMA/AAC
Lossless formats: FLAC/ALAC/WAV
DSD audio streaming (5.6MHz)
Gapless playback (FLAC, WAV, ALAC, DSD)
Internet Radio (TuneIn)
Compatible with Remote App for smartphones: Denon 2016 AVR remote
Compatible with Remote App for tablets: Android/iOS/Amazon Kindle
Ethernet ports
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
Media server
HEOS wireless multi-room technology
Spotify Connect
Pandora
SiriusXM
Other streaming services: Amazon music/TIDAL/Deezer/iHeart Radio/Napster/Soundcloud/Mood Mix
HEOS app control
AirPlay2 audio streaming
HDMI inputs back/front: 7/1
HDCP 2.2 support
HDMI outputs main/zone: 2/2
Video conversion analog - > HDMI
Analog to HDMI scaling: Up to 4K 60/50
HDMI to HDMI scaling: Up to 4K 60/50
GUI overlay on HDMI
3D signal passthrough
4K signal passthrough/scaling/GUI overlay
HDMI passthrough in Standby Mode
Picture Adjust/Noise Reduction
CEC
DSD audio capability
Audio Return Channel
Auto LipSync
HDMI 3D/4K/CEC/ARC/InstaPrevue
Enhanced Audio Return Channel
HDR/HLG/Dolby Vision
Multi-room zones: 3/3
Zone audio source: HDMI/opt, Coax/Network, USB/analog
Zone audio output: Speaker/preout
Zone HDMI output from HDMI source
IP control/RS232 control/Web control/App control
Remote In/Out
DC trigger output: 2
HDMI diagnostics
Auto speaker setup by microphone: Audyssey MultEQ XT32
FL display: 2 lines
Graphic User Interface - GUI: Advanced
ISF certification
GUI languages: 3
Setup assistant
Quick Select Plus
Firmware update by Network/USB
Variable crossover
Optimized bass redirection
Bass Sync
ECO mode
Auto power off
Sleep timer
Composite In/Out: 4/1
Component In/Out: 3/1
HDMI In/Out: 7+1/3
Multi-room video out: Video/HDMI
Analog In: 6
Phono (MM) In
Digital In: Optical/Coaxial: 2/2
Multi-room out analog: 2
Multichannel preout
Subwoofer out: 2
7.1 multichannel input
Speaker A/B: Assignable
Bi-amp drive: Assignable
Multi-room speaker terminal: Assignable
Front inputs: HDMI/USB
USB Audio
AM/FM tuner
Number of power amps: 13
Power output (8 ohms, 20Hz - 20kHz, 0.05% 2ch drive): 150W
Power output (6 ohms, 1kHz, 0.7% 2ch drive): 190W
Power output (6 ohms, 1kHz, 10% 1ch drive): 260W
System remote control: RC-1221
Pre-programmed
Power consumption: 900W
Standby consumption: 0.1W
CEC standby consumption: 0.5W
Network Control On consumption: 3.5W
Maximum dimensions (W x D x H): 17.08" x 18.7" x 7.72"
Weight: 39.24 lbs.

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Have you reviewed this unit or any of the new Denon units? It's certainly a beast and so is the price. I do not think I'm inclined to use Alexa or Google Assistant and personally find it a bit of put-off, but I get-it that I'm only one person.
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Have you reviewed this unit or any of the new Denon units? It's certainly a beast and so is the price. I do not think I'm inclined to use Alexa or Google Assistant and personally find it a bit of put-off, but I get-it that I'm only one person.
Yes, I reviewed this unit and it is a hard-core beast. It even weighs a ton, in relative terms, for people who appreciate a densely packed box full of electronic goodies.

https://www.avsforum.com/denon-avr-x...ed-avr-review/

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Have you reviewed this unit or any of the new Denon units? It's certainly a beast and so is the price. I do not think I'm inclined to use Alexa or Google Assistant and personally find it a bit of put-off, but I get-it that I'm only one person.
Nothing to be put off regarding features what you are paying for is the a 13 channel powered system, so you could do an over the top 7.2.6 without an external amp. so 6 atmos speakers. I have the X6500h 7.1.4 no external amps needed. At $1352 I got a hell of a deal but had to wait 6 weeks. These models are made in Japan and are really reliable too. You do need a cooling system however they run HOT but it's the powered channels that cost so much.

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Nothing to be put off regarding features what you are paying for is the a 13 channel powered system, so you could do an over the top 7.2.6 without an external amp. so 6 atmos speakers. I have the X6500h 7.1.4 no external amps needed. At $1352 I got a hell of a deal but had to wait 6 weeks. These models are made in Japan and are really reliable too. You do need a cooling system however they run HOT but it's the powered channels that cost so much.
Any warranty? Factory or ......?

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One year factory warranty on the refurbs.

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Seams like a good deal...
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If you find the right dealer you can buy on at the price new....

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Yes, I reviewed this unit and it is a hard-core beast. It even weighs a ton, in relative terms, for people who appreciate a densely packed box full of electronic goodies.

https://www.avsforum.com/denon-avr-x...ed-avr-review/
Can confirm the weight on this puppy is huge. Dam near put my back out trying to put the dam thing in the unit.
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If you find the right dealer you can buy on at the price new....
My thoughts exactly


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From the Bard: "If ifs were horses, beggars wouldn't crawl." Please cite the dealer.
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From the Bard: "If ifs were horses, beggars wouldn't crawl." Please cite the dealer.
I paid less than the original poster for a brand new authorized-dealer sale. Double-boxed, shipped for free. Call Mike @ Safe & Sound Inc, 428 East Street Chicopee, MA 01020, 413-594-6460 and he should be able to beat that factory new.
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I would highly recommend against buying the AVR-X8500H. I have the AVR-X4300H and it has everything in the x8500H you would need except for the 13 channel amp. Instead mine has 9 amps, which no more than I would ever want and I even run overhead speakers. The X4300H (now sold as X4400H & X4500H) still has the 13.2 channels of processing AND pre-outs for all 13.2. Use an external amp to drive the mains and you will save yourself a ton of grief in the future when your $4k AVR goes belly up from overheating. My X4300R used to power my 7.2.2 system and it got HOT, even with the cooling fan in it and two USB fans I added on top to draw out heat. It is sitting on a wire rack with endless open airflow. I could smell the electronics across the room very strongly as it got super hot. The X4x00H is only $1499 list and can be had for as little as $1099 on sale. I have even seen brand new X4300H go for $899 when they update the models, which happens once per year.

The other difference of any importance is the X4x00H is 125w/ch while the X8500H is 150w/ch. Not a big difference. Realize that that is only two channels driven. I increased my X4300H 9 channel amp to effective 11 channel amp by adding an external 150w/ch 2ch amp to run the main speakers. This gave me two additional power amps for a total of 11, and it offloaded and eliminated all of my heat issues since the external amp is driving the main speakers. I have tried different amps for this and the one that matched the system best is the Emotiva Audio A-300 BasX 2ch x 150w Class AB Amplifier for only $399 list. All reviewers suggest this is maybe the greatest steal in the audio world saying it outclasses most $1000 amps. It is large and weighs a lot, but the sound is exquisite when matched with the Denon AVR. There are other multichannel versions of these Emotiva amps and they take a huge load off your expensive AVR. With the X4300H on sale I spent a total of $1500 on the Denon AVR and the Emotiva Amp and I effectively have the same thing as the X8500H without a single point of failure and both are running cool even at insane volumes. If you need the 13 amps then get a four or five channel Emotiva to drive the other 4-5 channels (5 channels if you want to run the center channel off the same amp).
I would not take the X8500H in direct exchange for my X4300H. I can only imagine the heat it must put out. Also note that my setup has a total of 550w power whereas the X8500H alone has about half that at 300w. My setup added tons of headroom to my all Klipsch Reference Premier system. The difference is clearly improved over running the same speakers with the X4300H alone.

There is no reason I can think of to get an X8500H. The mid-other high end models can all do the same processing. I do recommend making sure that if you get a Denon and plan to have a subwoofer (duh!) that you get a model that has Audyssey "MultiEQ XT32" room correction. It makes a HUGE difference even over the "MultiEQ XT" because it does a much better job with bass correction, which is the most difficult to achieve. Forget any lower end models with only "MultiEQ". It is worth spending another $100 (sale prices) for a mid line model with the better Audyssey chip.

One last difference between the X4x00H and X8500H models is Auro3D, which come in the X8500H, but is a downloadable add-on for the DSP processing in the X4x00H series. It costs $199 I believe. Last I looked there were not many titles out in Auro3D and Dolby Atmos and DTS-X sound awesome to me

To sum it up. I believe you can get a better setup at much less than half the price of an X8500H.

Take this for what you will. I have done a ton of research on the options and I have had many Denon AVR's and I still own two of them.

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The X4300H (now sold as X4400H & X4500H) still has the 13.2 channels of processing AND pre-outs for all 13.2.


There is no reason I can think of to get an X8500H. The mid-other high end models can all do the same processing.


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The X4X00H can process only 11.2 channels, not 13.2.

The 8500h provides for left and right wide front channels; The recent X4400h and 4300h have no such provision, although the x4200 and older feature Audyssey DSX which does feature wide fronts (still limited to 11.2 channels of processing though.)

I agree that the X4X00 is a lot of bang for the buck.
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I would highly recommend against buying the AVR-X8500H. I have the AVR-X4300H and it has everything in the x8500H you would need except for the 13 channel amp. Instead mine has 9 amps, which no more than I would ever want and I even run overhead speakers. The X4300H (now sold as X4400H & X4500H) still has the 13.2 channels of processing AND pre-outs for all 13.2. Use an external amp to drive the mains and you will save yourself a ton of grief in the future when your $4k AVR goes belly up from overheating. My X4300R used to power my 7.2.2 system and it got HOT, even with the cooling fan in it and two USB fans I added on top to draw out heat. It is sitting on a wire rack with endless open airflow. I could smell the electronics across the room very strongly as it got super hot. The X4x00H is only $1499 list and can be had for as little as $1099 on sale. I have even seen brand new X4300H go for $899 when they update the models, which happens once per year.
are other multichannel versions of these Emotiva amps and they take a huge load off your expensive AVR. With the X4300H on sale I spent a total of $1500 on the Denon AVR and the Emotiva Amp and I effectively have the same thing as the X8500H without a single point of failure and both are running cool even at insane volumes. If you need the 13 amps then get a four or five channel Emotiva to drive the other 4-5 channels (5 channels if you want to run the center channel off the same amp).
I would not take the X8500H in direct exchange for my X4300H. I can only imagine the heat it must put out. Also note that my setup has a total of 550w power whereas the X8500H alone has about half that at 300w. My setup added tons of headroom to my all Klipsch Reference Premier system. The difference is clearly improved over running the same speakers with the X4300H alone.
I think the 8500H can process 13.2 channels
Also..I don't think the person buying the 8500H wants to deal with extra separate amps....I assume they would probably buy the Marantz 8805 if that was the case
IIRC..the 8500H has a very good amp/power supply section.
I think the heat you speak of the fact that you were putting some stress on what the X4300 could do

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