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Best place to buy room acoustic treatment?

Howdy - I am looking to buy some sound panels for damping and bass traps... does anyone know the best place to buy or good deals to look out for? I'm familiar with Acoustimac and MSR Acoustics but was wondering where else I might want to look for a good price. MSR is too expensive and while Acoustimac isn't too high, there has to be other less expensive options. DYI isn't saving tons of money with time factored in.

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Acoustimac is the cheapest I've found so far, but I'm defiantly interested in cheaper options. I'm also interested in cheaper DIY kits.
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gik acoustics and fabricmate both offer some great products
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I bought my OC703 from www.buyinsulationproductstore.com. I did a comparison price check to www.acoustimac.com and it was a little less expensive.
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Craig, how long did it take from sending the pictures to getting the acoustic plan?

I am planning to get started, so any light on the process will help, anything you can suggest which you wish you knew earlier? I just hope this doesn’t turn into snake oil recommendations, I have no way to know. If you can share your experience, may be I will know what to expect, I really don’t have a big budget but want to know what is the best minimal thing which gives Big Bang for the buck ?

How much sound improvement did you feel? Did you give them a budget? What are the main things they addressed?


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Acoustimac is the cheapest I've found so far, but I'm defiantly interested in cheaper options. I'm also interested in cheaper DIY kits.


I am interested as well, but don’t know where to start


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Craig, how long did it take from sending the pictures to getting the acoustic plan?

I am planning to get started, so any light on the process will help, anything you can suggest which you wish you knew earlier? I just hope this doesn’t turn into snake oil recommendations, I have no way to know. If you can share your experience, may be I will know what to expect, I really don’t have a big budget but want to know what is the best minimal thing which gives Big Bang for the buck ?

How much sound improvement did you feel? Did you give them a budget? What are the main things they addressed?


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Funny story - several years ago, after reading about acoustic panels, I ordered a box of three GIK 242 panels, and hung them on the back walls ( left and right ) and a large side wall. Friends came over that night to watch a movie, that come all the time. In fact, they may have been over a day or two prior. I didn't tell them I did anything. One of them turned to me during the movie and said " did you get new speakers ? ". I found that interesting.

It only took a day or two to get some recommendations back. I didn't give them a budget, but you could. You also don't need to buy everything at once. In my room, I'm finding I needed bass traps with scatter plates in the rear, and bass traps with range limiters on the front wall behind my curtains. One side of my theater is closed off and bass can be boomy there, even with multiple subs in 4 locations. Also, I have one row of seating 16' wide, and I am trying to get the sound and bass / LFE as even seat to seat as possible. The 244 bass traps have really tamed the boomy bass on the one side. Ceiling diffusers have also made dialog and sound crisper and cleaner. I have a few more bass traps coming on Monday, then I'm finished. Check my theater photos for before / now and then later next week ( in my signature ).
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Funny story - several years ago, after reading about acoustic panels, I ordered a box of three GIK 242 panels, and hung them on the back walls ( left and right ) and a large side wall. Friends came over that night to watch a movie, that come all the time. In fact, they may have been over a day or two prior. I didn't tell them I did anything. One of them turned to me during the movie and said " did you get new speakers ? ". I found that interesting.



It only took a day or two to get some recommendations back. I didn't give them a budget, but you could. You also don't need to buy everything at once. In my room, I'm finding I needed bass traps with scatter plates in the rear, and bass traps with range limiters on the front wall behind my curtains. One side of my theater is closed off and bass can be boomy there, even with multiple subs in 4 locations. Also, I have one row of seating 16' wide, and I am trying to get the sound and bass / LFE as even seat to seat as possible. The 244 bass traps have really tamed the boomy bass on the one side. Ceiling diffusers have also made dialog and sound crisper and cleaner. I have a few more bass traps coming on Monday, then I'm finished. Check my theater photos for before / now and then later next week ( in my signature ).

Cool, thx for your reply, that’s nice, good to know the difference was immediately noticeable. just curious how do you know what exactly you needed like diffuser vs scatter plates et all, they recommended everything or you had to research to validate if that was the right thing. I don’t know how much can they say just looking at the pictures or they were pretty much spot on?


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One of the things that I did to help GIK out, they have awesome customer service by the way, is to provide them a REW sample of all of my speakers.

Working with John Dykstra at GIK, he recommended quite a few things I could do to improve my sound before selling me anything. Implemented the changes and it's like a new HT.

I'll be interested to hear what it sounds like after getting the room treated.
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One of the things that I did to help GIK out, they have awesome customer service by the way, is to provide them a REW sample of all of my speakers.



Working with John Dykstra at GIK, he recommended quite a few things I could do to improve my sound before selling me anything. Implemented the changes and it's like a new HT.



I'll be interested to hear what it sounds like after getting the room treated.


Thanks that’s exactly I wanted to do, now did u run sweeps for all speakers including atmos ? Did they help you with REW setup ?

Now my ASIO driver doesn’t show me all 11 speakers


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I ran sweeps for my center, fronts, and subwoofers. In terms of reading the REW results they definitely helped me out. He was able to pick out that I had a center channel comprised of multiple speakers (3) and that the time alignment was off. Fixed that and boom - dialogue is much better. Subwoofers (6) needed some phase alignment and my dip at 30-40hz is now gone.

Again this was before trying to sell me their product.
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I ran sweeps for my center, fronts, and subwoofers. In terms of reading the REW results they definitely helped me out. He was able to pick out that I had a center channel comprised of multiple speakers (3) and that the time alignment was off. Fixed that and boom - dialogue is much better. Subwoofers (6) needed some phase alignment and my dip at 30-40hz is now gone.



Again this was before trying to sell me their product.


Wow that’s encouraging, thanks for sharing this, I am just getting started, sent them some pictures, working with James, let me see if I can pull in the other guy you mentioned


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Wow that’s encouraging, thanks for sharing this, I am just getting started, sent them some pictures, working with James, let me see if I can pull in the other guy you mentioned


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Just as an FYI - John's out at the NAMM show in CA and won't be back till Tuesday. Best of luck on your treatment journey!
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One of the things that I did to help GIK out, they have awesome customer service by the way, is to provide them a REW sample of all of my speakers.

Working with John Dykstra at GIK, he recommended quite a few things I could do to improve my sound before selling me anything. Implemented the changes and it's like a new HT.

I'll be interested to hear what it sounds like after getting the room treated.
I'm interested in hearing about your results with treatment. I've been thinking about getting treatments for some time now, and while I'm familiar with the theory I have never heard a treated room before. So it's hard to imagine what it'll do for me for the money I'll need to spend. My living room isn't symmetrical, and has openings to other rooms, so figuring out the best types of treatments and best position and how much to get without spending a fortune is the tough part.
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I'm interested in hearing about your results with treatment. I've been thinking about getting treatments for some time now, and while I'm familiar with the theory I have never heard a treated room before. So it's hard to imagine what it'll do for me for the money I'll need to spend. My living room isn't symmetrical, and has openings to other rooms, so figuring out the best types of treatments and best position and how much to get without spending a fortune is the tough part.
Once I have the treatments in place and REW measured, I'll post back my results.
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Just as an FYI - John's out at the NAMM show in CA and won't be back till Tuesday. Best of luck on your treatment journey!


Thank you, do you mind if I PM you if I have some questions along the journey? Looking forward to your update after the treatments


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Not at all! Hope I can help.
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Once I have the treatments in place and REW measured, I'll post back my results.
Did you get your treatments installed yet?

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Not yet. I've ordered them and they are going to be delivered in the next week or so. It'll probably take me the weekend to get everything installed and dialed in.

Once I have that and measurements, I'll report back.
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In case you want to save yourself a little money and add some elegance and ambience to your room - after coming from carpet flooring to laminate with resulting standing waves that went on forever I tamed down the room VERY nicely with one big area rug, large entry rug, 2 corner placed thick 6.5' faux trees and one leaf/grass arrangement to fill in the hole below a Sony 4K projector. Anthem's MRX720 ARC program just nailed the rest.

What is shocking is how much crisper and clean speech is now. Bass is tight and rich from 2 large subs, etc.
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Just got all the HT treatment in today and will be carving out next weekend for an install and tweak.




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Very interested to see how this turns out as I'm about 2 months away from finishing my theater.
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Got everything installed today. Took about 4 hours. When I started unpacking everything, I realized that I'm missing my 16 GridFusor's. Hopefully I get it straightened out early next week with Gik.

Tomorrow I hook up the HTP-1 that will replace my AV8805 and see how it sounds. Don't want to go through a full calibration and measurement session until I get the GridFusor's.
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Got everything installed today. Took about 4 hours. When I started unpacking everything, I realized that I'm missing my 16 GridFusor's. Hopefully I get it straightened out early next week with Gik.

Tomorrow I hook up the HTP-1 that will replace my AV8805 and see how it sounds. Don't want to go through a full calibration and measurement session until I get the GridFusor's.
Looks great!! Here are mine from GIK as well. Have the same ones on the opposite wall. Also have couple on the ceiling above the screen but they are black and it is hard to spot them with the ceiling being black. You can see them in the pic when the ceiling was white...


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Looks great!! Here are mine from GIK as well. Have the same ones on the opposite wall. Also have couple on the ceiling above the screen but they are black and it is hard to spot them with the ceiling being black. You can see them in the pic when the ceiling was white...







Very nice! The one thing I was a bit disappointed in with the GIK modules was some of the fit and finish.

Maybe I’m just anal retentive but the wrappings weren’t always tight and some of the corners poked out on the sides.

Nothing that most people would notice but it’s one of those attention to detail things.


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Very nice! The one thing I was a bit disappointed in with the GIK modules was some of the fit and finish.

Maybe I’m just anal retentive but the wrappings weren’t always tight and some of the corners poked out on the sides.

Nothing that most people would notice but it’s one of those attention to detail things.


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Funny you say that, can't agree more!! Mine were also shipped poorly. In one of my shipments, they had just thrown the hardware inside the box. No plastic bag or anything and all the metal clips floating all over the place on the panels. Needless to say I strongly complained to my adviser and he apologized but at the end of the day, we are paying good price for these and the boxing should definitely needs to be better. Other than that, they work amazing!!
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So finally got everything setup, tuned, and measured. Took a while to get here but I'm glad I went through the effort to do so.

Here are the REW results.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cR...__tDbTonLUudkX

Dirac = after with HTP-1, Dirac, sound treatement.
Aud = before with AV8805, Audyssey, and no sound treament.

I'm not an expert in reading REW results so I'll leave that up to the reader, it's something I need read up on myself.

Just from listening, while it's not a night and day difference, everything seems to be much tighter/clearer if that makes sense.
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