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Calman 5.8.1 RC3

http://spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=6424

CalMAN 2017
Version: RC3
Official Release: July 18th, 2017
New Features
- Auto Calibration for Samsung 2017 QLED televisions.
- Auto Calibration for Panasonic 2017 EZxxx series OLED televisions.
- New Color Volume Workflow – allows you to quickly measure the color volume of any display.
- New Color Volume Visualizer - three-dimensional graphing engine that displays the measurements of the Color Volume Workflow. To access, follow the link in the Color Volume Workflow
- New HLG Workflow – support for the hybrid log gamma version of high dynamic range that is rapidly gaining acceptance for live video production
- New Dolby Vision Custom Workflow – adds support for displays that support the new Dolby Vision Configuration File. - CalMAN uses a new type of Dolby Vision metadata to put the color volume mapping engine into bypass mode. CalMAN then calibrates the display and generates a new Dolby Vision configuration file that is loaded into the supported TV via USB stick.
New Hardware Support
- SpectraCal VideoForge Pro 4K HDR pattern generator
- SpectraCal C6 HDR2000 Colorimeter
- Photo Research PR653 spectroradiometer
- UPRtek MK550T spectroradiometer
- AccuPel DGA-6000 pattern generator
- Datacolor Sypder 5 colorimeter
Improved Hardware Support
- New display type characterizations for SpectraCal C6
Projector (Laser Phosphor)
Projector (Laser Phosphor) - Panasonic RZ12K
Projector (Laser Phosphor) - Panasonic RZ970
- Added 4-40 pattern support
4% window, 40% background
Added to VideoForge HDMI, Murideo SIX-G
- Enhanced capabilities added to Murideo SIX-G
Changed default output to be YCbCr
Added resolution drop down
Added FW check. V1 of the Muridio 6G will need to be the following FW versions
6G v2 - 2.40
6G v1 - 1.87
- Added support for the SpectraCal Video Forge Pro
Resolved Issues
- Resolved an issue with meter profiling.
- Resolved an issue when disconnecting from the Murideo Prisma as a Display.
- Resolved an issue which would cause CalMAN to improperly identify an x-rite OEM i1Pro2 as an i1Monitor.
- Resolved an issue with the Radiance Pro where the wrong LUT could get assigned to the pattern generator.
- Resolved an issue where CalMAN would display an inaccurate error message which attempting to connect to the Murideo 6G.
- Resolved an issue with LUT file formatting for OSEE displays.

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So what changed from RC2?

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So what changed from RC2?

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Changes from RC2

Added support for the C6 HDR2000.
Ultimate, Video Pro, ISF, Studio, Home Enthusiast, RGB

Resolved an issue with the Color Volume workflow where values were always being displayed as relative.

Changed text on data points drop down for Samsung QLED displays to HDR instead of 17 HDR.
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So much for the RC2 being final.
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So much for the RC2 being final.
New version 5.8.1.34, or is it 8. Eyesight not to good in the dark.

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So much for the RC2 being final.


We could always just leave stuff broken
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We could always just leave stuff broken
Touche. What i meant was that the email went out over a week ago announcing Calman 2017. I would figure the final would have been released before the email.
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Hi folks. Quick question:

(Background - no HDR DV projectors yet so I'm hanging around waiting for one)

Until then:

Can you use the OPPO 203 to do the following:

Output 1080p
(In SDR - does the 203 convert bck to rec709 - does anybody know - When it converts HDR to SDR?)

Retaining
10 bit signal
and
the rec. bt 2020 container.

If this is possible - I'd like to hook up a 203 (I have a 103D at the mo) to an integral4k60 and watch 1080p 10bit Wide colour gamut UHD's until and suitable projector comes along.

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Hi folks. Quick question:

(Background - no HDR DV projectors yet so I'm hanging around waiting for one)

Until then:

Can you use the OPPO 203 to do the following:

Output 1080p
(In SDR - does the 203 convert bck to rec709 - does anybody know - When it converts HDR to SDR?)

Retaining
10 bit signal
and
the rec. bt 2020 container.

If this is possible - I'd like to hook up a 203 (I have a 103D at the mo) to an integral4k60 and watch 1080p 10bit Wide colour gamut UHD's until and suitable projector comes along.

Cheers

John
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Question: is it possible to specify a nits level for white that is lower than the actual display brightness so that CalMAN calibrates down to it? So, eg say my display is set up to deliver 200 cd/m2, but I want my 3D cube to only output 120cd/m2 after autocal?

I'm looking at using the Lumagen Pro HDR Intensity Mapping on my TV but am limited to one basic setup, so the idea would be to maximise brightness for the HDR material but use a smaller cube for SDR
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Is there a difference between the C6 HDR and C6 HDR2000? I have the C6 HDR. Thanks. SJ
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From specs on the website and email, the newer model supports up to 2000 nits. IIRC the former HDR model supported up to ~1000, and the original C6 less than that.
The C-6 and Retail I1D3 are guaranteed to 1000 nits. The former HDR model was selected and tested for 1300 nits.
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The C-6 and Retail I1D3 are guaranteed to 1000 nits. The former HDR model was selected and tested for 1300 nits.
I posted that question in the Spectracal forum, and was answered by Tyler as Rolls-Royce stated: 2000 nits for HDR-2000, 1300 for the HDR, and 1000 for the original C6.
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CalMAN 2017 5.8.1 Final (Build 34) Released @ 25 July 2017

Release Notes

This is the exact same build as CalMAN 2017 5.8.1.34 (Build 34) RC3. There have been no changes.

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Last night, I was trying to run a LUTs calibration using an eecolor as my LUTs box.

Since I'm calibrating a 2016 LG OLED, I wanted to use an alternate white point. The one D-Nice came up with for the 2016s.

Can you do this with enthusiast level license? One of the pages in the 3d cube workflow seems to say that selecting alternate white points as well as two other items is only available with certain licenses. It gives you two ways of selecting but nothing to show which of the two you pick which leads me to think that you can't do it with enthusiast license.

On a separate issue, I chose the 90 minute LUTs run which took over 3 hours. Any idea why?
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We just posted CalMAN 2017 build 5.8.1.37

The only changes are we added 3 new meter profiles for the C6/C6HDR/C6HDR2000 for the 2015, 2016, and 2017 Samsung Quantum Dot TVs

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Last night, I was trying to run a LUTs calibration using an eecolor as my LUTs box.

Since I'm calibrating a 2016 LG OLED, I wanted to use an alternate white point. The one D-Nice came up with for the 2016s.

Can you do this with enthusiast level license? One of the pages in the 3d cube workflow seems to say that selecting alternate white points as well as two other items is only available with certain licenses. It gives you two ways of selecting but nothing to show which of the two you pick which leads me to think that you can't do it with enthusiast license.

On a separate issue, I chose the 90 minute LUTs run which took over 3 hours. Any idea why?
Here is a video showing how to create a custom white point in CalMAN:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By_...ew?usp=sharing

the video shows some other things but it should be straight forward once you are in the custom color space editor.

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Can someone explain the licensing process when you upgrade the software from a new download? My licenses were wiped out and I had to install them again. Is this the ongoing process? Thanks. SJ
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We just posted CalMAN 2017 build 5.8.1.37

The only changes are we added 3 new meter profiles for the C6/C6HDR/C6HDR2000 for the 2015, 2016, and 2017 Samsung Quantum Dot TVs
I'm wondering why the new official 2017 builds require Win 7 or later while the beta release candidates worked fine with Vista?

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I'm wondering why the new official 2017 builds require Win 7 or later while the beta release candidates worked fine with Vista?


Vista may still work fine, But officially we are not supporting it.

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Can someone explain the licensing process when you upgrade the software from a new download? My licenses were wiped out and I had to install them again. Is this the ongoing process? Thanks. SJ


The next major release in the fall will not require a deactivation upon update/install.

If anyone ever has any license ID or activation related issues, please email the support email address for the fastest response.

I have been checking them after hours and on weekends.

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I'm wondering why the new official 2017 builds require Win 7 or later while the beta release candidates worked fine with Vista?
OMG, someone is ACTUALLY using Vista?
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The new 5.8.1a

http://spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=6442

There have been a few minor changes.

Added EDRs for the SpectraCal C6 for the 2015, 2016, and 2017 Samsung QLED displays.
Minor text change on the Color Volume Analysis workflow.
Resolved issue bringing up specialty patterns on the SpectraCal VideoForge Pro.

CalMAN 2017
Version: 5.8.1a
Official Release: July 18th, 2017
New Features
- Auto Calibration for Samsung 2017 QLED televisions.
- Auto Calibration for Panasonic 2017 EZxxx series OLED televisions.
- New Color Volume Workflow – allows you to quickly measure the color volume of any display.
- New Color Volume Visualizer - three-dimensional graphing engine that displays the measurements of the Color Volume Workflow. To access, follow the link in the Color Volume Workflow
- New HLG Workflow – support for the hybrid log gamma version of high dynamic range that is rapidly gaining acceptance for live video production
- New Dolby Vision Custom Workflow – adds support for displays that support the new Dolby Vision Configuration File. - CalMAN uses a new type of Dolby Vision metadata to put the color volume mapping engine into bypass mode. CalMAN then calibrates the display and generates a new Dolby Vision configuration file that is loaded into the supported TV via USB stick.
- Added EDRs for the SpectraCal C6 for the 2015, 2016, and 2017 Samsung QLED displays
New Hardware Support
- SpectraCal VideoForge Pro 4K HDR pattern generator
- SpectraCal C6 HDR2000 Colorimeter
- Photo Research PR653 spectroradiometer
- UPRtek MK550T spectroradiometer
- AccuPel DGA-6000 pattern generator
- Datacolor Sypder 5 colorimeter
Improved Hardware Support
- New display type characterizations for SpectraCal C6
Projector (Laser Phosphor)
Projector (Laser Phosphor) - Panasonic RZ12K
Projector (Laser Phosphor) - Panasonic RZ970
- Added 4-40 pattern support
4% window, 40% background
Added to VideoForge HDMI, Murideo SIX-G
- Enhanced capabilities added to Murideo SIX-G
Changed default output to be YCbCr
Added resolution drop down
Added FW check. V1 of the Muridio 6G will need to be the following FW versions
6G v2 - 2.40
6G v1 - 1.87
- Added support for the SpectraCal Video Forge Pro
Resolved Issues
- Resolved an issue with meter profiling.
- Resolved an issue when disconnecting from the Murideo Prisma as a Display.
- Resolved an issue which would cause CalMAN to improperly identify an x-rite OEM i1Pro2 as an i1Monitor.
- Resolved an issue with the Radiance Pro where the wrong LUT could get assigned to the pattern generator.
- Resolved an issue where CalMAN would display an inaccurate error message which attempting to connect to the Murideo 6G.
- Resolved an issue with LUT file formatting for OSEE displays.

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I have been checking them after hours and on weekends.
Yeah, they were very helpful in getting my issues resolved. Do you recommend first deactivating all licenses, then install the new version and then reactivating after the new install? Thanks. SJ
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Yeah, they were very helpful in getting my issues resolved. Do you recommend first deactivating all licenses, then install the new version and then reactivating after the new install? Thanks. SJ
Yes. Until the fall update.

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OMG, someone is ACTUALLY using Vista?
When our clients come in with Vista, we first upgrade them to Windows 7, so they don't lose anything. They can then stay at that level, or once 7 is in, then continue the upgrading to Windows 10.
Actually, I recently upgraded the OS from XP to Vista on this old and formerly retired Dell Inspiron 700m in the hopes of using it to run CalMAN 5, which it does. If I could find a foolproof way to install Win 7 display drivers for it, I might consider moving to Win 7.

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Actually, I recently upgraded the OS from XP to Vista on this old and formerly retired Dell Inspiron 700m in the hopes of using it to run CalMAN 5, which it does. If I could find a foolproof way to install Win 7 display drivers for it, I might consider moving to Win 7.
Looks like Dell doesn't want anything on this Laptop except XP, so was it by luck Vista went on?

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Looks like Dell doesn't want anything on this Laptop except XP, so was it by luck Vista went on?
I did some online research that suggested Vista would be fine and installation and if I had any issues I have forgotten them by now. The ability to run CalMan was a bonus.

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Yes. Until the fall update.

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It was only for the one update that required you to deactivate it before upgrading I thought. I've updated 3 times since the major version without deactivating and all I needed to do was activate it again.
My understanding is this fall the license would stay intact when upgrading without the need to reactivate after updating.

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My P75-C1 Calibration Settings (5.0.14.1).
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