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For the Sony’s it’s ok. If you do a 2pt first then run autocal the adjustments will be less and you get a more accurate result. D-nice found this early on and I also found it helps.


I have never seen any actual visual difference. Also the Usability isn’t good, having to manually copy of the 2 point control values to other modes and inputs.

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@tyler ,you mention a few months ago when you guys would update the Sony workflow that de ICTP would be made the default recommended color error formula,so I noticed last night after doing a autocal with the updated 2019 Sony workflow the default was still de 2000 Jnd…..

Was this Sony decision to leave as is or do you still recommend de ICTp?

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@tyler ,you mention a few months ago when you guys would update the Sony workflow that de ICTP would be made the default recommended color error formula,so I noticed last night after doing a autocal with the updated 2019 Sony workflow the default was still de 2000 Jnd…..



Was this Sony decision to leave as is or do you still recommend de ICTp?


If I was doing my own TV I would use DEITP for everything. It takes longer for the Autocal to complete but I think it is work the extra time.

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Isn't pattern insertion for OLED? I remember having an issue with rolling but I didn't use pattern insertion to fix it. Did you try changing sync for the meter to ON or OFF? I always use ON because it works correctly all the time for me. It's been months since I last calibrated. Last firmware update I think. Maybe I'll dig it out and check into it again.

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If I was doing my own TV I would use DEITP for everything. It takes longer for the Autocal to complete but I think it is work the extra time.
I've noticed that some workflows are now using dEICtCp 240. But I thought that dEICtCp 720 was preferred (once you understand that the numbers will always be higher than dE2000) ? So why change the workflows to use dEICtCp 240? Is it a "transition change" away from dE2000, a first step, with a move to dEICtCp 720 later?

Also, the "ratified standard" called dEITP - which one is it out of dEICtCp 240 and dEICtCp 720 please?

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I've noticed that some workflows are now using dEICtCp 240. But I thought that dEICtCp 720 was preferred (once you understand that the numbers will always be higher than dE2000) ? So why change the workflows to use dEICtCp 240? Is it a "transition change" away from dE2000, a first step, with a move to dEICtCp 720 later?

Also, the "ratified standard" called dEITP - which one is it out of dEICtCp 240 and dEICtCp 720 please?
DEITP is 720. Tyler explained they're in the process of a change-over with proper guidance.

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DEITP is 720.
Cool, thanks.

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Tyler explained they're in the process of a change-over with proper guidance.
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For the Sony’s it’s ok. If you do a 2pt first then run autocal the adjustments will be less and you get a more accurate result. D-nice found this early on and I also found it helps.


I have never seen any actual visual difference. Also the Usability isn’t good, having to manually copy of the 2 point control values to other modes and inputs.
I tend to agree as long as the adjustments aren’t too extreme.

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I tend to agree as long as the adjustments aren’t too extreme.
The adjustments for the lowest point (+24, +24, -16) do seem rather large.
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The adjustments for the lowest point (+24, +24, -16) do seem rather large.
Low point adjustments like that are very common.
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Microsoft Windows 10 May 2019 ISO is now available:

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Re Versions on the ISO website, pick the correct one! Windows 10 May 2019 is 1903. Not the October 2018 version.

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Dang, you beat me!

Edit: Ahh, just an 1809 update. I was hoping it was 1903!

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Edit: Ahh, just an 1809 update. I was hoping it was 1903!
Actually 1903 is out, but you may need to do a manual update:

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Actually 1903 is out, but you may need to do a manual update:

https://thewincentral.com/four-ways-...available-now/
You're right, it looks like it wants to do 1809's 529 before going to 1903. Cool!

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I'm confused - Are there new features in the Windows updates that affect Calman 5?
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I'm confused - Are there new features in the Windows updates that affect Calman 5?


No. I am running on the windows insider fast ring on my machine without any issues.

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For the Samsung Q9FN, when switching the gray level mode from SDR to HDR, the DDC RGB setting labels change accordingly but the values don't change and appear to be common to both SDR and HDR.

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For the Samsung Q9FN, when switching the gray level mode from SDR to HDR, the DDC RGB setting labels change accordingly but the values don't change and appear to be common to both SDR and HDR.
My bad, TV itself was not in HDR mode yet from a pattern.

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Hi guys do i calibrate hdr on lg c9 with the gamma 2.2 or st2084?
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Hi guys do i calibrate hdr on lg c9 with the gamma 2.2 or st2084?


If you are using CalMAN Home for LG, All of this is automatically set in to the correct configuration in the workflow for you.

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If you are using CalMAN Home for LG, All of this is automatically set in to the correct configuration in the workflow for you.

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Thanks Tyler.
When you calibrate hdr to you left brightness and contrast at 100 or 50 and 85?

When you upload your peak luminance do you leave tone mapping on or off?
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When you calibrate hdr to you left brightness and contrast at 100 or 50 and 85?

When you upload your peak luminance do you leave tone mapping on or off?
So i'm not sure why all these questions since as Tyler say's the workflows set everything up automatically but you do have a good question about the tone mapping option. LG says to leave it OFF when calibrating and you need to manually turn it off when using CalMAN with the remote in the user menu for the HDR PM you are working on. But that said I've tried calibrating both ways and I wasn't able to detect a difference. The HDR Tone Mapping option should be turned off automatically by CM when calibrating since it's very easy to forget to manually turn it off.

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I have an i1display pro already i could get a i1display pro 2 from 2017 at a good price.
It will only come with the usb cable and the spectro, no software.
Would i need the software to use it with calman?
Is those item usually reliable?
I understand i could use the spectro to profile the i1display pro.
Would it be a big upgrade from only using the retail i1display pro on is own?
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I have an i1display pro already i could get a i1display pro 2 from 2017 at a good price.
It will only come with the usb cable and the spectro, no software.
Would i need the software to use it with calman?
Is those item usually reliable?
I understand i could use the spectro to profile the i1display pro.
Would it be a big upgrade from only using the retail i1display pro on is own?
i1display pro 2?

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I have an i1display pro already i could get a i1display pro 2 from 2017 at a good price.
It will only come with the usb cable and the spectro, no software.
Would i need the software to use it with calman?
Is those item usually reliable?
I understand i could use the spectro to profile the i1display pro.
Would it be a big upgrade from only using the retail i1display pro on is own?
There is no such thing as an i1display pro 2
I think its call an i1pro2.
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In CalMAN Home, for Manual HDR calibration, when doing the Colorspace page, selecting 50% Only patterns, can someone confirm if the corresponding DVS UHD HDR10 test patterns are the (10% Window) 50% Amplitude/50% Saturation ones?
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