Originally Posted by skschatzman
Thanks. Yah I'm aware that not all content is created equal and the source/host of the content also has an impact. I can't justify spending hundreds of $ for a box right now. Especially when we are in the middle of a new format evolution. With HDMI 2.1 on the way, other hdr formats on the rise. It's great it's happening, but for the conciencious consumer, it's too early to dive in. I'm just getting my feet wet.
I would rather have access to the baseline 3d lut built into the display and make adjustments based on the source through created picture modes. This would be good enough for me. At least until the new standards are settled in and we get some solid hardware to work with.
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Hi, 3D LUT is something it can performed for SDR only, so any upcoming change in HDMI or HDR format's are not affecting this, since Blu-Ray which come to market hundred new tittles per week and there available some thousands all these years, it will have REC.709 and 100-120 nits target peak output and any TV can cover this 100%, so you can watch the content with the colors as is being mastered for SDR.
HDR movies will look very different from display-to-display due to different tone mapping each model features and because of differences in peak output each display has, so it's impossible to see exactly how content supposed to look 100%, something you can do with SDR.
With HDR you can't use 3D LUT because it's not possible to disable the display's internal gamut/tone mapping, so even if it's been released a low cost 3D LUT Box for HDR (because they cheaper one right now is starting from $5000, the Lumagen PRO) you can't do with consumer display 3D LUT for HDR.
If you are interested for 3D LUT display characterization for SDR you don't even need to spend a lot of money.... when you have a HTPC as a Media Player, then you can use a software player which supports MadVR as a renderer; like Media Player Classic or JRiver; get a calibration software that supports MadVR (like LightSpace HTL/CalMAN Enthousiast/DisplayCAL.....displayCAL is free open source) which is able to control the MadVR software pattern generator from inside your software player and be able to generate the 3D LUT correction table and do the display characterization.
MadVR supports the 3D LUT format file system of eeColor (65-Point Cube), so you will load the correction when you will playback movies from that software player you will use. So the cost if you go with DisplayCAL and MadVR is $0.
If you will use a stand-alone player (blu-ray/media player) and you want to do display characterization for your display, then you need to add a 3D LUT Box between your TV-player, to store there the 3D LUT correction table.
The lower cost solution coming from eeColor for this job and it's the only one 3D LUT Box which works with free software....DisplayCAL (for those who want to keep the cost low) or using CalMAN Enthousiast or LightSpace HTL from paid software solutions.
For the 3D LUT Box which don't feature an internal pattern generator, you can use some low-priced hardware like (Amazon FireStick / Google ChromeCast etc.) to the software that supports these devices as patch generators.
The solutions from Lumagen also but it will require paid software to work and all Lumagen are including an internal pattern generator also.
BTW Panasonic OLED features 3D LUT upload capability with 64-Point Cube size bujt is doing to be released to public some time later via firmware update, they haven't announced if it will be support HDR mode, but sure it will be for SDR mode at least.