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Sorry to post here but I'm always getting "Database Error" when trying to post on the main Vizio thread:

I just ordered an Xbox One and I haven't done gaming before in the past so I'm wondering if I'm going to have issues connecting it to HDMI 4? My first game with this will a 4k HDR capable game so is this a correct input to use? I was wondering because I read a lot of posts for people that game that use HDMI 5 but I don't believe it is HDR capable right?

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Sorry to post here but I'm always getting "Database Error" when trying to post on the main Vizio thread:



I just ordered an Xbox One and I haven't done gaming before in the past so I'm wondering if I'm going to have issues connecting it to HDMI 4? My first game with this will a 4k HDR capable game so is this a correct input to use? I was wondering because I read a lot of posts for people that game that use HDMI 5 but I don't believe it is HDR capable right?
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Sorry to post here but I'm always getting "Database Error" when trying to post on the main Vizio thread:



I just ordered an Xbox One and I haven't done gaming before in the past so I'm wondering if I'm going to have issues connecting it to HDMI 4? My first game with this will a 4k HDR capable game so is this a correct input to use? I was wondering because I read a lot of posts for people that game that use HDMI 5 but I don't believe it is HDR capable right?
I save HDMI 5 for when I connect my PC to the P series. For consoles since a wireless controller will induce some lag anyways, one of the regular HDMI ports with GLL turned on is fine. Especially big you want to take advantage of hdr.

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I save HDMI 5 for when I connect my PC to the P series. For consoles since a wireless controller will induce some lag anyways, one of the regular HDMI ports with GLL turned on is fine. Especially big you want to take advantage of hdr.

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6.0.18.1 and Dolby Vision

With firmware 6.0.18.1 does the backlight still need to be set at 30 for Dolby Vision?
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With firmware 6.0.18.1 does the backlight still need to be set at 30 for Dolby Vision?
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I'm not sure but I used the calibration settings from the older firmware so mine is at 30? There haven't been any new suggested settings posted, at least for the P75.

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Im using these settings on my 2017 m55-e0 and my 2018 p65-f1 everything looks better ....thx to shoman94 for these =))


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FIRMWARE: 5.0.14.1 (UPDATED 11/24/18)
BG LED display Profiled with ColorMunki Photo
D65 HD Rec.709 w/2.2 Gamma
FALD ON, 10% window, Constant APL
White: 125cd/m²(nits)


Picture Mode: Calibrated NoLights/Calibrated Dark/Calibrated
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 20/40/85
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50/50/55
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 5

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Clear Action: Off, ON for GAME
Reduce Motion Judder: 0
Reduce motion Blur: 0
Game Low Latency: 0ff, ON for GAME
Film Mode: On
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2 (Calibrated NoLights, Calibrated Dark) 2.0 (Calibrated)

---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue
Red: 3
Green: 0
Blue: -2
Cyan: 1
Magenta: 0
Yellow: -1

Saturation
Red: -4
Green: -5
Blue: -2
Cyan: 0
Magenta: -4
Yellow: -2

Brightness
Red: 2
Green: -2
Blue: 0
Cyan: -3
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 0

Offset
Red: -7
Green: 0
Blue: -4

Gain
Red: 0
Green: 11
Blue: 0

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% 27,10,32

10% -10,-13,10

20% -4,-2,-2

30% 8,3,5

40% 12,2,8

50% 0,7,7

60% -5,1,3

70% 5,3,4

80% 2,1,1

90% 0,-2,-5

100% 15,-1,-7


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Dolby Vision HDR Settings(UPDATED 11/24/18)
FIRMWARE: 5.0.14.1
BG LED display setting Profiled with ColorMunki Photo
BT.2020 Colorspace / Dolby Vision P75 EOTF
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window Constant APL

Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark/Calibrated

Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 30
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50/55
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 5

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: On
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2/2.0 (Calibrated Dark/Calibrated)

---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue:
Red: -3
Green: 10
Blue: -4
Cyan: -2
Magenta: 6
Yellow: -5

Saturation
Red: 5
Green: 0
Blue: -6
Cyan: 10
Magenta: 0
Yellow: -2

Brightness
Red: 0
Green: 0
Blue: 0
Cyan: 0
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 0

Offset
Red: 0
Green:0
Blue: 0

Gain
Red: 20
Green: 37
Blue: 20

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% 0,7,25

10% -5,4,10

20% -7,2,-3

30% 4,7,2

40% 15,8,7

50% 1,12,4

60% 5,13,6

70% 10,12,5

80% 0,0,0

90% 0,0,0

100% 0,-2,-5

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HDR-10 Settings(UPDATED 11/24/18)
FIRMWARE: 5.0.14.1
BG LED display setting Profiled with ColorMunki Photo
BT.2020 Colorspace / ST2084 HDR PQ
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
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Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark/Calibrated
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 55
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 55/58
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 5

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: On
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2/2.0 (Calibrated Dark/Calibrated)

---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue:
Red: 1
Green: 6
Blue: 0
Cyan: 0
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 3

Saturation
Red: -6
Green: 0
Blue: -4
Cyan: -6
Magenta: -5
Yellow: -3

Brightness
Red: 0
Green: 0
Blue: 0
Cyan: 0
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 0

Offset
Red: 0
Green: 0
Blue: 0

Gain
Red: 10
Green: 22
Blue: 0

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% -7,0,-5

10% -23,0,4

20% -14,0,-11

30% -9,2,-7

40% -4,0,-5

50% -12,9,-3

60% -15,12,0

70% -10,10,0

80% -14,12,3

90% 0,13,0

100% 0,0,0
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Im using these settings on my 2017 m55-e0 and my 2018 p65-f1 everything looks better ....thx to shoman94 for these =))
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I know and understand but they work and made both my tvs look better so im happy ...




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At the end of the day that is what matters!

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I know you bought the Sony and that's why you're not posting so much on this thread. Just to let you know, yesterday I ended up ordering the LG OLED C9 77" to replace my Vizio P. I may just end up moving the Vizio to another room instead of getting rid of it. I have a Samsung that has probably the worst 4k picture of all the brands I own so I'll get rid of that one. I couldn't pass up the outstanding Memorial Day deal I got on this one. The OLED prices have come down substantially in the last couple of years.

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I know you bought the Sony and that's why you're not posting so much on this thread. Just to let you know, yesterday I ended up ordering the LG OLED C9 77" to replace my Vizio P. I may just end up moving the Vizio to another room instead of getting rid of it. I have a Samsung that has probably the worst 4k picture of all the brands I own so I'll get rid of that one. I couldn't pass up the outstanding Memorial Day deal I got on this one. The OLED prices have come down substantially in the last couple of years.
Yea they have.... Good luck!

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I did something, I never imagined myself doing, switching over to Vivid mode. To my surprise, not only did the picture not like what I expected it to, it looked like it had been properly calibrated and set up to present DV pretty well and in some cases better than the Calibrated Dark mode.

I switched the color temperature to normal. Ultimately, I began to wonder, if Vizio ever knew how to properly set up these displays in the beginning for DV.

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I did something, I never imagined myself doing, switching over to Vivid mode. To my surprise, not only did the picture not like what I expected it to, it looked like it had been properly calibrated and set up to present DV pretty well and in some cases better than the Calibrated Dark mode.

I switched the color temperature to normal. Ultimately, I began to wonder, if Vizio ever knew how to properly set up these displays in the beginning for DV.

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Is there still a fixed brightness during her conten when on vivid mode?

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Is there still a fixed brightness during her conten when on vivid mode?

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The backlight and brightness setting is still similar to the calibrated picture options. Contrast is 20 points higher as well as color.

Although faces can appear to yellow, on normal color temperature.

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@shoman94 -

I was wondering if you have ever checked what the approximate diffused white value and near white slope values are for calibrating DV in HCFR. I know you use Calman for your DV, but I just did HDR-10 in HCFR, but changed the values to match what was calculated in Displaycal for the diffuse white value (based on peak white nit value), then changed the slope to follow what Vizio used for the roll-off. Here are my results. I also found that Vizio is using the green chroma to set color, rather than red or blue. As it turned out, the green was the lowest value in regards to chroma. Here is what I got for HDR-10 and the general settings for HLG (uses the same color tuner as HDR-10):

HDR-10 Settings(UPDATED 06/04/19)
FIRMWARE: 6.0.18.1
VA LED P50-C1 display setting Profiled with i1Pro 2/i1Display Pro
BT.2020 Colorspace / ST2084 HDR PQ BT.2390 Override targets
Diff. White 81.93, Min 0, Max 257.3, NB slope 0.1, NW -4.5 40%, 1.2
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window Constant APL


Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark/Calibrated
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 69
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 53
Tint: -2
Sharpness: 0

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2 (Calibrated Dark)

---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue:
Red: 4
Green: -6
Blue: 5
Cyan: 8
Magenta: -2
Yellow: 15

Saturation
Red: -6
Green: 2
Blue: 0
Cyan: -8
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 6

Brightness
Red: -11
Green: 6
Blue: 2
Cyan: 8
Magenta: -11
Yellow: -2

Offset
Red: 1
Green: 0
Blue: -2

Gain
Red: -11
Green: 0
Blue: -19

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% -24,-6,5

10% -3,-3,9

20% 2,1,1

30% -2,-1,0

40% 5,-3,2

50% 1,-5,0

60% 5,4,0

70% 5,7,2

80% 0,7,8

90% -14,-2,4

100% -3,0,2

================================================== ====================================

HGL Settings(UPDATED 06/04/19)
FIRMWARE: 6.0.18.1
VA LED P50-C1 display setting Profiled with i1Pro 2/i1Display Pro
BT.2020 Colorspace / HGL
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window Constant APL


Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark/Calibrated
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 78
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50
Tint: -2
Sharpness: 0

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2 (Calibrated Dark)


I tried to do DV as HDR-10, but without having the diffuse white value lower and changing the near white slope to match the roll-off implemented, it over-saturates the colors. Still need to do the SDR over again.
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@shoman94 -

I was wondering if you have ever checked what the approximate diffused white value and near white slope values are for calibrating DV in HCFR. I know you use Calman for your DV, but I just did HDR-10 in HCFR, but changed the values to match what was calculated in Displaycal for the diffuse white value (based on peak white nit value), then changed the slope to follow what Vizio used for the roll-off. Here are my results. I also found that Vizio is using the green chroma to set color, rather than red or blue. As it turned out, the green was the lowest value in regards to chroma. Here is what I got for HDR-10 and the general settings for HLG (uses the same color tuner as HDR-10):

HDR-10 Settings(UPDATED 06/04/19)
FIRMWARE: 6.0.18.1
VA LED P50-C1 display setting Profiled with i1Pro 2/i1Display Pro
BT.2020 Colorspace / ST2084 HDR PQ BT.2390 Override targets
Diff. White 81.93, Min 0, Max 257.3, NB slope 0.1, NW -4.5 40%, 1.2
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window Constant APL


Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark/Calibrated
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 69
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 53
Tint: -2
Sharpness: 0

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2 (Calibrated Dark)

---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue:
Red: 4
Green: -6
Blue: 5
Cyan: 8
Magenta: -2
Yellow: 15

Saturation
Red: -6
Green: 2
Blue: 0
Cyan: -8
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 6

Brightness
Red: -11
Green: 6
Blue: 2
Cyan: 8
Magenta: -11
Yellow: -2

Offset
Red: 1
Green: 0
Blue: -2

Gain
Red: -11
Green: 0
Blue: -19

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% -24,-6,5

10% -3,-3,9

20% 2,1,1

30% -2,-1,0

40% 5,-3,2

50% 1,-5,0

60% 5,4,0

70% 5,7,2

80% 0,7,8

90% -14,-2,4

100% -3,0,2

================================================== ====================================

HGL Settings(UPDATED 06/04/19)
FIRMWARE: 6.0.18.1
VA LED P50-C1 display setting Profiled with i1Pro 2/i1Display Pro
BT.2020 Colorspace / HGL
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window Constant APL


Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark/Calibrated
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 78
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50
Tint: -2
Sharpness: 0

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2 (Calibrated Dark)


I tried to do DV as HDR-10, but without having the diffuse white value lower and changing the near white slope to match the roll-off implemented, it over-saturates the colors. Still need to do the SDR over again.
Sorry I never did. Still you need DV licenced patterns to put the TV into DV mode.

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Sorry I never did. Still you need DV licenced patterns to put the TV into DV mode.

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R. Masciola dropped his DV patterns here:
https://diversifiedvideosolutions.com/products.html


Edit: Unfortunately Calman has not released the Vizio specific home suite.

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P75-C1 with replaced main board is not pulling FW updates

Update: as expected Vizio rep was lying to me saying that she spoke to engineering and 3.2.13.3 is the latest firmware for my set rest assured me that she went to a special effort to confirm it. Well, Installed 5.x.x.x from the USB and it now pulls 6.x.x.x. Just for the benefit of this fine community, do not believe what Vizio tells you, cross-check with USB if your TV is repaired. I used to respect Vizio for good integrity support but things change and this time it is not for the better. I am now worried that they installed a board from 2016 into this set. Let's see if I get all those old gremlins from early days...

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I feel that Vizio is not being transparent with me here... they repaired my P75-C1 for frequent reboots problem and after replacing the main board now FW reports 3.2.13.3 and does not find any new updates for it. Everyone else is on 4.x.x.x and 5.x.x.x and my previous board was also on 4.x.x.x. When I called Vizio support lady was very friendly but she said that this is the latest version of FW for me. 3.2.13.3 is circa 2016/17 if I remember correctly. CEC does not work well on it, HDMI inputs do not auto rename to match sources, etc. Am I being taken on a ride here? How can 3.2.13.3 be the latest?

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Update: as expected Vizio rep was lying to me saying that she spoke to engineering and 3.2.13.3 is the latest firmware for my set rest assured me that she went to a special effort to confirm it. Well, Installed 5.x.x.x from the USB and it now pulls 6.x.x.x. Just for the benefit of this fine community, do not believe what Vizio tells you, cross-check with USB if your TV is repaired. I used to respect Vizio for good integrity support but things change and this time it is not for the better. I am now worried that they installed a board from 2016 into this set. Let's see if I get all those old gremlins from early days...



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I feel that Vizio is not being transparent with me here... they repaired my P75-C1 for frequent reboots problem and after replacing the main board now FW reports 3.2.13.3 and does not find any new updates for it. Everyone else is on 4.x.x.x and 5.x.x.x and my previous board was also on 4.x.x.x. When I called Vizio support lady was very friendly but she said that this is the latest version of FW for me. 3.2.13.3 is circa 2016/17 if I remember correctly. CEC does not work well on it, HDMI inputs do not auto rename to match sources, etc. Am I being taken on a ride here? How can 3.2.13.3 be the latest?
Are you only talking to tier 1 support? They have no clue or technical expertise. They are uneducated in tech and only know how to read from a script. I would try calling again and if the tier 1 support won't help, ask for tier 2.

Edit: nevermind lol.
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Without autocal? No need for a Vizio-specific version. Any version should work for manual calibrations if that's all you need to do.

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Costco Concierge involved Vizio Tier 2 but they are equally clueless. What is worst that boards that Vizio puts in are very dated from 2016. They do not even check them before installing. Well it was a third repair, after that I will lemon law this set. Wish I could trust Vizio.

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Fwiw I sold my set to my grandparents and just got around to recalibrating it with the latest firmware 6.0.18., with the Backlight at 30 in DV it still seems to be ideal and provide the lowest deltaE. Just thought I would throw that out there.

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Fwiw I sold my set to my grandparents and just got around to recalibrating it with the latest firmware 6.0.18., with the Backlight at 30 in DV it still seems to be ideal and provide the lowest deltaE. Just thought I would throw that out there.

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I think contrast has always been the culprit, and allowing these displays to clip white above 1000 nits, is a disservice to DV and HDR10 content graded to 4000 nits. The display can't properly tone map and retain detail, if white is clipped so soon. Then it affects color accuracy, causes colors to clip, resulting in crosstalk.

Turns out, all DV knows, is peak brightness, color gamut (primary/secondary), and black level.

Vizio team needs HDR training, and Dolby is providing it, I believe colorist studio Mixing Light is as well.

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Without autocal? No need for a Vizio-specific version. Any version should work for manual calibrations if that's all you need to do.
Yeah, just since you have to buy it each time, and with a view to the future for what my likely purchases on TV sets would be, I would prefer to pick up say a Vizio or TCL variant for autocal (considering it would be another $145 to get that). I may bite that bullet in a month or two, though.
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Color Tuner has no effect

This question is actually about a 2018 Vizio P75-F1; this seemed to be the closest thread...

I bought this TV during the recent Costco blowout and now I'm trying to calibrate it using HCFR and an i1 Display Pro. Basic settings, grayscale, and gamma all went fine, but now I'm looking at primary and secondary colors and I'm finding that most controls in the Color Tuner panel seem to do nothing at all. Does anyone understand what's going on?

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RGB Offset and Gain work as expected (though I've avoided touching Offsets). But all the rest are inoperative. For example, if I display a 70% red patch, the meter reads [x: 0.6637, y: 0.3121, Y: 18.233]. None of the HSB controls in the Color Tuner budge this reading at all, whether set on Red or on other primaries. I can even set them all to extreme values without producing a change. And I don't think I'm misusing HCFR or the meter: it's pretty evident just from looking at the TV (both with test patches and photo images) that nothing is actually changing.

I'm especially confused because I see that most other Vizio color profiles have some nonzero values in these HSB slots.

The TV is at firmware version 2.1.7.1. I'm calibrating only SDR at this point. HCFR is displaying patches through the ChromeCast/SmartCast interface.

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Base mode: Calibrated (but saved to a separate Picture Mode after edits)
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 48
Brightness: 49
Contrast: 50
Color: 51
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 5
Color Temperature: Normal*
Black Detail: Off
Active Full Array: Low
Reduce Judder: 5
Reduce Motion Blur: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Noise: all Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: On
Color Space: Auto (disabled)
Gamma: 2.2
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This question is actually about a 2018 Vizio P75-F1; this seemed to be the closest thread...



I bought this TV during the recent Costco blowout and now I'm trying to calibrate it using HCFR and an i1 Display Pro. Basic settings, grayscale, and gamma all went fine, but now I'm looking at primary and secondary colors and I'm finding that most controls in the Color Tuner panel seem to do nothing at all. Does anyone understand what's going on?



An image of the panel I'm referring to is attached.



RGB Offset and Gain work as expected (though I've avoided touching Offsets). But all the rest are inoperative. For example, if I display a 70% red patch, the meter reads [x: 0.6637, y: 0.3121, Y: 18.233]. None of the HSB controls in the Color Tuner budge this reading at all, whether set on Red or on other primaries. I can even set them all to extreme values without producing a change. And I don't think I'm misusing HCFR or the meter: it's pretty evident just from looking at the TV (both with test patches and photo images) that nothing is actually changing.



I'm especially confused because I see that most other Vizio color profiles have some nonzero values in these HSB slots.



The TV is at firmware version 2.1.7.1. I'm calibrating only SDR at this point. HCFR is displaying patches through the ChromeCast/SmartCast interface.



Other settings:



Base mode: Calibrated (but saved to a separate Picture Mode after edits)

Auto Brightness Control: Off

Backlight: 48

Brightness: 49

Contrast: 50

Color: 51

Tint: 0

Sharpness: 5

Color Temperature: Normal*

Black Detail: Off

Active Full Array: Low

Reduce Judder: 5

Reduce Motion Blur: 0

Clear Action: Off

Reduce Noise: all Off

Game Low Latency: Off

Film Mode: On

Color Space: Auto (disabled)

Gamma: 2.2
Are you saying that adjusting hue, saturation, brightness has no affect on the color coordinates?

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Are you saying that adjusting hue, saturation, brightness has no affect on the color coordinates?
Correct: no effect on color coordinates or luminosity (Y). No effect on anything at all, as far as I can tell.
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Correct: no effect on color coordinates or luminosity (Y). No effect on anything at all, as far as I can tell.
When you click on a color and click on continuous measurements, the meter doesn't give you any feedback?

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When you click on a color and click on continuous measurements, the meter doesn't give you any feedback?
Nope, no change. But as I said, it's pretty clear that nothing is changing just from looking at the screen. I wouldn't expect to be able to pick out the effect of small changes by eye, but you should be able to see a difference when going to H: -50, S: -50, B: -50, no?

Just to be clear, I do see the usual small amount of random noise in the continuous measurements as they update, on the order of ~0.0002 in x and y. But the HSB controls don't seem to affect the average value.
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