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Without HDR, 4K is in most cases displayed in Rec.709. Some folks have been able to trick 4K HDR sources into sending non-HDR 4K 2020 because they have WCG 4K displays that don't do HDR, but you generally need extra gear such as an HDFury Integral or Linker to do it. These devices can also inject HDR and 2020 metadata so non-HDR patterns can be used. Without this, your Samsung will switch to 709 if it sees a 709 signal coming in and color space is set to Auto. You can try Native, but the Samsung apparently doesn't correctly remap colors in that mode. BTW, you can't hit full 2020 targets with the KS8000, or any other existing consumer display, for that matter. The only displays that can are theatrical projectors with laser-based primary colors.
The KS8000 will only allow you to do grayscale and color/tint adjustment (using the 50% patterns in Ryan's set and the TV's Blue-only mode) in HDR mode. That's all. Buy Ryan's patterns (the cost is more than reasonable), put them on a thumb drive, and go for it.
This is somewhat off-topic, but...

The KS8000 has a blue-only mode for simple tint adjustment? How is it accessed? I have looked for it in the past, but I have not found it.
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This is somewhat off-topic, but...

The KS8000 has a blue-only mode for simple tint adjustment? How is it accessed? I have looked for it in the past, but I have not found it.
Yessir! It is deceptively labeled: "RGB Mode". This actually means Red-only, Green-only, Blue-only.

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Without HDR, 4K is in most cases displayed in Rec.709. Some folks have been able to trick 4K HDR sources into sending non-HDR 4K 2020 because they have WCG 4K displays that don't do HDR, but you generally need extra gear such as an HDFury Integral or Linker to do it. These devices can also inject HDR and 2020 metadata so non-HDR patterns can be used. Without this, your Samsung will switch to 709 if it sees a 709 signal coming in and color space is set to Auto. You can try Native, but the Samsung apparently doesn't correctly remap colors in that mode. BTW, you can't hit full 2020 targets with the KS8000, or any other existing consumer display, for that matter. The only displays that can are theatrical projectors with laser-based primary colors.
The KS8000 will only allow you to do grayscale and color/tint adjustment (using the 50% patterns in Ryan's set and the TV's Blue-only mode) in HDR mode. That's all. Buy Ryan's patterns (the cost is more than reasonable), put them on a thumb drive, and go for it.
RR,

Thanks for the great info. I wasn't quite sure if the TV was displaying the 2020 gamut when it upscaled from1080/709? Sounds like not.
I'm using the i-scan mini to send 4k, 4.2.0, 8 bit. Can't send anything more than. Right now, I don't have a HDR source, but may pick something up when prices come down. I'm using the auto color space, like you say the native is "visible." I haven't had the Samsung long, so, haven't made any grey scale/color adjustments. When the time comes, I may just adjust the Duo gamut and see what I get. The set looks pretty great, and definitely more pop than my Panasonic

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Yessir! It is deceptively labeled: "RGB Mode". This actually means Red-only, Green-only, Blue-only.
Thanks. I haven't tried it yet, but I ought to be able to manage it.
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Hi kocsu

I personally haven't been able to run tests on the Xbox One S as of yet. Utilizing the Plex media server for playback may be a viable option. However, I believe another file container besides .ts is needed...possibly mp4 or mkv. I'm aware of the Philips BDP7501, some UHD HEVC/h.265 content is playable...however, I'm not aware of any HDR content via USB. We shall see what the future holds!

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I attempted to use Xbox One S Media Player app + Plex to display the demo .ts + .mp4 pattern files with no luck.

How are others displaying?
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Wanting to calibrate HDR10. Anyway to use any of these with Xbox One S or Roku Ultra via USB?
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Hi, is there any chance to have full frame patterns to do a simple projector calibrations?

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I attempted to use Xbox One S Media Player app + Plex to display the demo .ts + .mp4 pattern files with no luck.



How are others displaying?


I just got mine to work with USB and the Roku Ultra.


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Custom HDR/AVI infoframe

Can I use the HDfury hooked between my laptop and my Vizio P55-C1 to inject HDR metadata io trigger the HDR mode in my set?
If so do you know what the HDR and AVI infoframe code is that I can use in the Linker GUI? My computer is putting out RGB.

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Can I use the HDfury hooked between my laptop and my Vizio P55-C1 to inject HDR metadata io trigger the HDR mode in my set?
If so do you know what the HDR and AVI infoframe code is that I can use in the Linker GUI? My computer is putting out RGB.

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You could probably use Nvidia's HDR SDK. I use this to trigger HDR from my PC (recent MadVR versions will passthrough any metadata, minus HDR10/DV/HGL/other triggers, and this is the easiest way to trigger HDR10.

I don't know if this works on Intel/ATi/AMD cards, but I don't see why it wouldn't. Windows 10 will be getting a patch this spring/summer to enable HDR natively.
All you need to do is download the SDK, extract someplace and start it with "run_hdr.bat".
This will enter Exclusive fullscreen mode for the SDK and enable HDR mode on your display. You can then alt-tab out, leaving exclusive full screen mode yet retain HDR mode trigger.
If you turn off HDR in the SDK and you are NOT in exclusive fullscreen, it will stop working until it is enabled again from inside exclusive fullscreen mode.

You can basically ignore everything inside the SDK as all settings, aside from HDR on/off, are exclusively for Nvidia's SDK (changing tonemap, colorspace, or HDR settings will not apply outside the SDK) Which is why it's important to use new MadVR versions if you are going to be playing any of Masciola's patters from your PC.
Also, set your display in MadVR to PC levels (this is for between PC applications and Driver, your driver should convert it properly to PC or TV levels afterwards when it sends the signal to your display. It's not really explained very well.)
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R.Masciola's UHD/HDR-10 Test Pattern Suite (.ts/.mp4) “Staple” update REV_013 released!

Description

This is a staple update and I highly recommend replacing “ALL” previous revisions with REV_013. I have made further modifications to my code and scripts, this allows for better compatibly across a multitude of decoders. I’ve also redesigned the White clipping test pattern from the ground up and now provides better clipping visibility for the end user. Here is a list of modified and added patterns to the suite:

Modifications

Basic Setup Patterns

01. Title (x1)
02. Meter Placement (x1)
04. Black Clipping (x2)
05. White Clipping (x3)
06. Color Bars (x6)
07. Sharpness & Overscan (x1)

Miscellaneous Patterns

02. ANSI Contrast (x2)
03. Dynamic Contrast (x1)
04. Grayscale Ramps (x3)
05. Color Ramps (x5)
06. Color Decoding (x1)
07. Color Flashing Primary (x1)
10. Resolution Patterns (x8)
13. Test Footage (x4)
14. LG OLED Test Patterns (x21)
15. HDR Clipping Test Patterns (x10)
16. Digital Zone Plate Patterns (x7)
17. Grid Pattern (x1)

Added Patterns

02. Black Clipping_2_HEVC_HDR10 (mp4/ts)
01. White Clipping_1_HEVC_HDR10 (mp4/ts)
02. White Clipping_2_HEVC_HDR10 (mp4/ts)
03. White Clipping 80-100_HEVC_HDR10 (mp4/ts)

New Pattern Suite File sizes

UHD/HDR-10 Test Pattern Suite (.ts/.mp4) unzipped 4.26 GB (4,585,152,888 bytes)
UHD/HDR-10 Test Pattern Suite (.ts/.mp4) zipped 1.44 GB (1,548,884,918 bytes)

Thank you for your continued support!

-Ryan

Added patterns:

01. White Clipping_1_HEVC_HDR10


02. White Clipping_2_HEVC_HDR10


03. White Clipping 80-100_HEVC_HDR10


02. Black Clipping_2_HEVC_HDR10
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R.Masciola's UHD/HDR-10 Test Pattern Suite (.ts/.mp4) “Staple” update REV_013 released!



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This is a staple update and I highly recommend replacing “ALL” previous revisions with REV_013. I have made further modifications to my code and scripts, this allows for better compatibly across a multitude of decoders. I’ve also redesigned the White clipping test pattern from the ground up and now provides better clipping visibility for the end user. Here is a list of modified and added patterns to the suite.


I just bout this a few days ago....how to I update to this one?
Edit - Nevermind, got an email.

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Thanks again Ryan, the new black and white clipping tests are great.

This is the gift that keeps on giving!
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R.Masciola's UHD/HDR-10 Test Pattern Suite (.ts/.mp4) “Staple” update REV_013 released!

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This is a staple update and I highly recommend replacing “ALL” previous revisions with REV_013. I have made further modifications to my code and scripts, this allows for better compatibly across a multitude of decoders.
@mascior Ryan, Would it be possible to get an updated set of 'free demo' test patterns? I have been unable to get the current set working through a variety of attempts with my Xbox One S and Vizio P-series. I am interested in purchasing and it sounds like you have made compatibility updates, but would like to verify. Thanks, Chris

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For folks who bought your test patterns before the upgrades are we able to get these upgrades in the sendowl download link that I got on Dec 30th?

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For folks who bought your test patterns before the upgrades are we able to get these upgrades in the sendowl download link that I got on Dec 30th?
I have just checked my emails, I had an update on the 30th of Dec and then again on 12th of Jan, it seems you are waiting on the latest.
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FWIW - Netflix has made availalbe a set of HDR test patterns ... see my avsforum post ...

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@mascior Ryan, Would it be possible to get an updated set of 'free demo' test patterns? I have been unable to get the current set working through a variety of attempts with my Xbox One S and Vizio P-series. I am interested in purchasing and it sounds like you have made compatibility updates, but would like to verify. Thanks, Chris
Hi Chris

I just updated them! However, I don't believe the One S plays HEVC encoded files natively, but is possible through applications such as PLEX. Thanks!

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For folks who bought your test patterns before the upgrades are we able to get these upgrades in the sendowl download link that I got on Dec 30th?
Absolutely! The update emails are staggered, so some customers receive their updates before others. Please let me know if this is not the case. Thanks!

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I just updated them! However, I don't believe the One S plays HEVC encoded files natively, but is possible through applications such as PLEX. Thanks!

-Ryan
I tried playing the test files through my Xbox One S to my Vizio P-65c1 and its a nogo. I also tried using plex via Xbox and nothing. I also tried using plex via my Odroid C2 and libreelec 8.0 beta and it still won't trip HDR in my display. Any other suggestions? I also would like to buy your patterns, but I need a way to get my display to trip HDR
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I tried playing the test files through my Xbox One S to my Vizio P-65c1 and its a nogo. I also tried using plex via Xbox and nothing. I also tried using plex via my Odroid C2 and libreelec 8.0 beta and it still won't trip HDR in my display. Any other suggestions? I also would like to buy your patterns, but I need a way to get my display to trip HDR
Double check on your Vizio that you have HDMI Color Subsampling enabled for the particular HDMI input?

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Double check on your Vizio that you have HDMI Color Subsampling enabled for the particular HDMI input?
Yup. Did that already. This display is really stubborn to get it what I want it to.

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I don't ever do this, but I actually have a request.

I forgot I left my PC on in HDR mode and was verifying it's grayscale using the attached pattern from Ted's calibration disc. I modified the attached version and made it gaudy enough that no one would dare "steal" it (Modified the already modified version of this pattern Ted shows on his website, just in case.)

Anyways I noticed my LG E6 has ONE SINGLE BLOCK (49%) in this pattern as having quite a blue tint, and no controls seemed to touch it (haven't had time to try every combination yet) but I could move it up and down with Contrast (a trick I learned and use to realign these OLED HDR controls to match your LG patterns).

Anyways my request is for something to give some simple spot checks like this particular pattern. Ideally one for grayscale, primaries and secondaries to check for artifacts and/or clipping caused by color overdrive. This can sort of be done with the current clipping patterns but only for a few steps where it could, y'know, clip :P

I know I was only looking at an SDR pattern via PC (forced HDR mode to enable with Nvidia SDK and using MPC-HC/BE with MadVR to passthrough metadata to display), but your patterns from my PC match measurements of the patterns played from USB stick on TV (when viewed with identical settings), which is why that one single patch is bugging me. I can't see it on ramps (it was just a single % so it's too thin to notice this way) and I don't have anything else that has a 49% grayscale patch to test from my PC.
If I can test this via photoshop (or similar), just let me know (preferably pointing in the right direction )

If this wasn't for HDR I wouldn't want to bother you with such a request.

Either way, thanks for the work so far. And thanks for your continued efforts. Cheers.
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I don't ever do this, but I actually have a request.

I forgot I left my PC on in HDR mode and was verifying it's grayscale using the attached pattern from Ted's calibration disc. I modified the attached version and made it gaudy enough that no one would dare "steal" it (Modified the already modified version of this pattern Ted shows on his website, just in case.)

Anyways I noticed my LG E6 has ONE SINGLE BLOCK (49%) in this pattern as having quite a blue tint, and no controls seemed to touch it (haven't had time to try every combination yet) but I could move it up and down with Contrast (a trick I learned and use to realign these OLED HDR controls to match your LG patterns).

Anyways my request is for something to give some simple spot checks like this particular pattern. Ideally one for grayscale, primaries and secondaries to check for artifacts and/or clipping caused by color overdrive. This can sort of be done with the current clipping patterns but only for a few steps where it could, y'know, clip :P

I know I was only looking at an SDR pattern via PC (forced HDR mode to enable with Nvidia SDK and using MPC-HC/BE with MadVR to passthrough metadata to display), but your patterns from my PC match measurements of the patterns played from USB stick on TV (when viewed with identical settings), which is why that one single patch is bugging me. I can't see it on ramps (it was just a single % so it's too thin to notice this way) and I don't have anything else that has a 49% grayscale patch to test from my PC.
If I can test this via photoshop (or similar), just let me know (preferably pointing in the right direction )

If this wasn't for HDR I wouldn't want to bother you with such a request.

Either way, thanks for the work so far. And thanks for your continued efforts. Cheers.
Hi Kamikaze_Ice

Just to clarify, are you looking for 49% code (123) or 15% code (49) within Ted's pattern? Thanks!

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Just to clarify, are you looking for 49% code (123) or 15% code (49) within Ted's pattern? Thanks!

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Ack, sorry I circled it but failed because it was behind layers.

I do believe I mean 49% and not code 49. But just to be safe let's assume I'm a dumb door knob so I specifically mean column "35%", row "+4%", (aka column "40%", row "-1%").

Sorry for the trouble.



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... How, the, hell. Did I just have a stroke? Is this real life?
I have no explanation for my failure to count.

I do believe I mean 49% and not code 49. But just to be safe EVERYONE MUST KNOW I FAILED TO COUNT PAST FOUR (queue Psychostick's cover of Drowning Pool's Bodies) I'm dumber than a door knob so I specifically mean column "45%", row "+4%", (aka column "50%", row "-1%").
Wait, let me check...
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Yep, 49.

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Ack, sorry I circled it but failed because it was behind layers.

I do believe I mean 49% and not code 49. But just to be safe let's assume I'm a dumb door knob so I specifically mean column "35%", row "+4%", (aka column "40%", row "-1%").

Sorry for the trouble.
Hi Kamikaze_Ice

Column "35%"(code 93) /Row +4% would be patch 39%. 49% would be Column "45%"(code 115)/Row +4. If you can confirm, I can easily generate an single HDR patch. Thanks!

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Column "35%"(code 93) /Row +4% would be patch 39%. 49% would be Column "45%"(code 115)/Row +4. If you can confirm, I can easily generate an single HDR patch. Thanks!

-Ryan
I've edited that post of mine, and yes I did mean 49%.

What a glorious and most embarrassing failure that was.


This is definitely going to be one of those weeks for me...
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I've edited that post of mine, and yes I did mean 49%.

What a glorious and most embarrassing failure that was.


This is definitely going to be one of those weeks for me...
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***EDIT***
... How, the, hell. Did I just have a stroke? Is this real life?
I have no explanation for my failure to count.
LOL! No worries. I can have something to you tomorrow. Thanks!

-Ryan
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What a glorious and most embarrassing failure that was.


This is definitely going to be one of those weeks for me...
I just sent you a PM. Thanks!

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