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Ha...I completely misunderstood what you were comparing. Thanks for explaining. I have read (and re-read) this thread from square 1. Yes, I agree with you, and other pros, that the Dynamic Tone Mapping setting should be OFF for calibration. What I am interested to know is others' opinion of how Dynamic Tone Mapping looks On versus Off with real time material on a calibrated TV. I know this is likely subjective. What bugs me a little is that I prefer (quite a bit) Dynamic Tone Mapping ON rather than OFF on a calibrated TV with custom tone mapping curves done during the calibration. With all the talk of custom tone mapping as a new feature, I was expecting to like that engaged (DTM OFF) better than dynamic tone mapping (DTM ON) on real time/reference material. Don't get me wrong...the C9's picture is phenomenal. I'm just nit picking and asking for opinions on the Dynamic Tone Mapping setting once the TV is calibrated.
What we are really after is some opinions on how to set the roll off point for 1000, 4000, 10000nits
For example some movies are master on 1000 nits would that be a good idea to put the roll off on 100% as basically if your tv as a peak luminance of 750 nits anythings after will clip?
If you watch some of the movies master on 4000 nits perhaps put the roll off points at 50 or 40 will look more pleasing?
Same for video game which some are master are 10000 nits what would be the best option for the roll off point go have the most pleasing image?
Or are we better just using the dynamic tone mapping left on?
I understand that all of this is very subjectif but all we ask is opinions and guidance from the pro and perhaps opinion on people who have experiment with this.

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What we are really after is some opinions on how to set the roll off point for 1000, 4000, 10000nits
For example some movies are master on 1000 nits would that be a good idea to put the roll off on 100% as basically if your tv as a peak luminance of 750 nits anythings after will clip?
If you watch some of the movies master on 4000 nits perhaps put the roll off points at 50 or 40 will look more pleasing?
Same for video game which some are master are 10000 nits what would be the best option for the roll off point go have the most pleasing image?
Or are we better just using the dynamic tone mapping left on?
I understand that all of this is very subjectif but all we ask is opinions and guidance from the pro and perhaps opinion on people who have experiment with this.

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LG has given the ability for you guys to test what you guys think is best or what you think looks the best. That was the whole goal of this feature. Nobody knows the answer to your question yet, because not enough people have played around with it and tried different settings.
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This is more of a "Thanks!" post than a question or answer, but here goes...

Tyler...(and the team). The work-flows, auto-cal, general attention to detail, and instructions are just awesome with this TV and CalMan software. I have been an enthusiast for some time and I think this combo of CalMan and the C9 is the most enjoyable calibration exercise that I have ever performed. Confidence of accuracy of results...check. Results...double check! Kudos!

John...you must have the patience of Jobe to review the thread and answer questions that may be obvious to you or have been asked a thousand times before. You are informative and humble. Cheers brother!

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Yes that is echoed from me, too. As a novice I wouldn't have had the confidence to buy, or achieve the limited successes I've had so far, without the amazing help of many people on this forum.
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This is more of a "Thanks!" post than a question or answer, but here goes...



Tyler...(and the team). The work-flows, auto-cal, general attention to detail, and instructions are just awesome with this TV and CalMan software. I have been an enthusiast for some time and I think this combo of CalMan and the C9 is the most enjoyable calibration exercise that I have ever performed. Confidence of accuracy of results...check. Results...double check! Kudos!



John...you must have the patience of Jobe to review the thread and answer questions that may be obvious to you or have been asked a thousand times before. You are informative and humble. Cheers brother!



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Thanks for the kind words. CalMAN 2019 and the integration with the LG C9, is the culmination of over three plus years of working with LG to provide consumers with the tools to get Hollywood level color accuracy in their own home.
Yes thank you for your time and patience as a complete novice i am very please with the value and the result and the help from all the members here.

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Now that my C9 has about 200 hours on it, I decided to start doing a calibration. I recently bought an OEM i1 Display Pro in preparation for my new TV. I profiled it with a i1Pro2 spectro but found that it didn't really need profiling on this TV. When I measured the ISF modes in HCFR, I noticed they were already freakishly well-calibrated. They were more accurate than my Panasonic VT60 plasma *after* calibration.

Is this level of factory calibration normal for current LG OLEDs or did I get lucky with my panel?
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Now that my C9 has about 200 hours on it, I decided to start doing a calibration. I recently bought an OEM i1 Display Pro in preparation for my new TV. I profiled it with a i1Pro2 spectro but found that it didn't really need profiling on this TV. When I measured the ISF modes in HCFR, I noticed they were already freakishly well-calibrated. They were more accurate than my Panasonic VT60 plasma *after* calibration.



Is this level of factory calibration normal for current LG OLEDs or did I get lucky with my panel?

The 2019 LG OLED seem to be very good out of the box. My C9 was in great shape out of the box but I still had @jrref calibrate it. It’s spot on now.


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Hi I'm hoping the forum can help with a question I have. Last weekend I had my LG C9 calibrated using CalMan and the new AutoCal feature. I had ISF Dark/Bright for SDR and Cinema User (HDR/Dolby Vision) all calibrated by downloading an updated 3D LUT table. The results were amazing, especially on material such as Blue Planet and Planet Earh. My calibrator was very impressed with the level of accuracy of the C9 and the AutoCalman feature as this was the first C9 he had done. So kudos to both LG and Calman for this achievement.

But I've been in discussion with LG over whether using AI Picture for example to upscale 1080p material from my TIVO would have an effect on the Auto calibration - i.e. reset it back to factory defaults. At the moment hard to get a clear answer on this from LG.

The other option I would like to try out is AI Brightness on the HDR picture modes, again don't want to set this option and reset my auto calibration.

Why do I want to do this - I suppose because those options are there and LG differentiates the C9 from the C8 with these new capabilities - George

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Hi I'm hoping the forum can help with a question I have. Last weekend I had my LG C9 calibrated using CalMan and the new AutoCal feature. I had ISF Dark/Bright for SDR and Cinema User (HDR/Dolby Vision) all calibrated by downloading an updated 3D LUT table. The results were amazing, especially on material such as Blue Planet and Planet Earh. My calibrator was very impressed with the level of accuracy of the C9 and the AutoCalman feature as this was the first C9 he had done. So kudos to both LG and Calman for this achievement.

But I've been in discussion with LG over whether using AI Picture for example to upscale 1080p material from my TIVO would have an effect on the Auto calibration - i.e. reset it back to factory defaults. At the moment hard to get a clear answer on this from LG.

The other option I would like to try out is AI Brightness on the HDR picture modes, again don't want to set this option and reset my auto calibration.

Why do I want to do this - I suppose because those options are there and LG differentiates the C9 from the C8 with these new capabilities - George
You should be able to use the AI feature and it shouldn't effect the calibration manual or Autocal'd. Just don't do a picture mode or factory reset or you will loose your calibration.
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You should be able to use the AI feature and it shouldn't effect the calibration manual or Autocal'd. Just don't do a picture mode or factory reset or you will loose your calibration.
Jrref if you click reset on 1 picture mode do you loose all the calibrated picture mode?

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You should be able to use the AI feature and it shouldn't effect the calibration manual or Autocal'd. Just don't do a picture mode or factory reset or you will loose your calibration.
Jrref if you click reset on 1 picture mode do you loose all the calibrated picture mode?

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You reset only the picture mode you are in. Factory reset, resets everything

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I found a dead or stuck pixel on my new c9 is that fixable?
What should i do?

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How would you set your oled light for a bright room with satch windows?
I calibrated the dark room mode mode at 100 nits which is 27 oled light on my c9.
I calibrated the bright room mode at 200 nits which is 68 oled light.

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We will be publishing the tutorial videos for CalMAN Home for LG in the next two weeks. This includes separate video tutorials for SDR, HDR, and Dolby Vision.

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Hello when those video tutorials will be available?
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Hello when those video tutorials will be available?
The CalMAN Home LG 2019 SDR video is now on our youtube page here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF-...Xs45V43Ma_rdtQ

The CalMAN Home for LG 2019 HDR video will be posted later today.

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The CalMAN Home LG 2019 SDR video is now on our youtube page here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF-...Xs45V43Ma_rdtQ

The CalMAN Home for LG 2019 HDR video will be posted later today.

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Would you use d65 white point or custom white point to calibrate the lg c9 ?

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Would you use d65 white point or custom white point to calibrate the lg c9 ?
D65 for the usual content consumption. There was some talk of using other (I think the Judd value if I recall correctly) years ago for OLEDs, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside.
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Well my first exp dark SDR autocal seemed to work. Not much luck in HDR.
No IRP 3dlut creation, no lut uploads, madvr control is wrong (exclusive fullscreen mode is erratic).

I ordered a raspberry pi though perhaps that will be more useful...
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Hi Guys could you please tell me if everything ticked inbrhis picture is correct or if you have any suggestion.

Thank you so much.
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Hi Guys could you please tell me if everything ticked inbrhis picture is correct or if you have any suggestion.

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All of this is set correctly automatically for each workflow.


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