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post #1 of 14 Old 03-11-2020, 06:32 PM - Thread Starter
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K10-A Owners... unite !

K10-A brothers/sisters,

I've been trying to get Klein support to change (what I consider) a feature bug in ChromaSurf for a while now, I just recently exchanged emails with them again and they may "consider it" but it seems they need more "convincing" in order to go ahead... ;-)

here's the situation:

I'm using CS mainly for storing calibration profiles in the K10-A unit - do this for every cal session. In CS > calibration profile window I'm selecting “Reference device > Manual entry”, and then “Manual pattern generator”. Problem is that when trying to enter the reference spectro values, CS then still…

(a) shows a pop-up and asks to select a color in the pattern generator – this is obviously pointless we're not reading the ref spectro, this is MANUAL entry
(b) displays the progress bar for reading the color patch, which is useless and wastes more time

The programmer at Klein clearly simply re-used the same procedure for when reading the actual Klein device (where those steps are needed), but this is a pure annoyance for me on the reference spectro data fields - they should just be enabled for data input.

I do a lot of cals - meter profiles are always the most annoying, redundant step that should be fully automated or as little time consuming as possible.

If you feel the same way, shoot Klein support an email to finally fix this !!!


Unite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Harry,

u're a good man !

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Mail with change request done.
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Mike, if you arrange for me a dinner with Audrey, I could consider your request.
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I wrote them also
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Mike, if you arrange for me a dinner with Audrey, I could consider your request.

I feel there's more info here that needs to be shared... who's Audrey and does she already have a restraining order against u ?

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is Audrey and, unfortunately, she doesn't know me... yet!

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^^^^

this made me laugh so hard !!!

well Miki, how about u put a video presentation of urself together - and all of us here can chime in - don't forget ur "sock tools" (!!!), I'm sure she will love that - and then we'll forward it to her.

Problem is obviously u can't fly into the States currently (so ur honeymoon has to wait), but hey maybe if they can fix the CS bug I'm complaining about, they can fix Corona too ?!?
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Ummm Miki I thought you were married??? Oh wait I just remembered you are Italian!
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Klein got back to me and said they will do something, just no time frame...

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got the same response

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Same here

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Hi,
Iron Mike is absolutely right, but the real problem is that ChromaSurf does not directly support the commonly used Spectros from Jeti and Colorimetry Research.

Therefore a project was started in 2016/2017 to integrate the spectros of Jeti.

Unfortunately, Tom Nelson (Office Manager and Sr. Software Eng.) left Klein Instruments at the beginning of November 2017 and Chromasurf was obviously no longer developed.
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