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How to start with calibrating an OLED using i1 Display Pro?

Hi all,

I own the i1 Display Pro and I mainly use that to calibrate my PC monitor, DELL 24" U2412M using DisplayCAL with ArgyllCMS.

Now, I am not an expert and I try to follow the prompts and check some youtube videos on how to configure DisplayCal. I also use a correction profile that I was able to download from some database and this matches the i1 display pro and my monitor.

I'm about to get an LG OLED CX model.
I would like to know how can that be calibrated.

I don't use a PC on my TV but if it requires for the sake of calibration, then that's not an issue. I only connect Nvidia shield pro to the TV.

I downloaded AVS HD 709 calibration MP4 file, but I'm not sure if I need to use that or calibrate using the i1 or do both and in what order.

I'd appreciate any help in this matter.
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Hey Gil80,

there are SEVERAL threads, where this topic is discussed in full...

Only to name a few:

From the sticky:
Basic Guide to Color Calibration using a CMS (updated and enhanced)

LG based:
2020 LG OLED Calibration and User Settings (No price talk)
2019 LG OLED Calibration and User Settings (No price talk)
2018 LG OLED Calibration and User Settings (No price talk)

Calibration Software based (for LG):
CalMAN Home for LG
LG OLED's 3D LUT Profiling using LightSpace Thread

Calibration Software based (in general):
LightSpace 3D LUT Home Cinema Calibration Software
HCFR - Open source projector and display calibration software
CalMan 5 Release Notes and Discussion

Happy reading
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OMG!
No such thing as 1,2,3... eh?

We put a man on the moon, you'd think calibrating a screen would be a walk in the park.

Thanks heaps!
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OMG!
No such thing as 1,2,3... eh?
Unfortunately not

First you have to decide or test/evaluate, which software you want to use.
The i1D3 is compatible with all the three software solutions I mentioned, but only HCFR is free.
With HCFR on the other hand, you can't get the full potential out of your display, because it's not capable of loading a 1D/3D LUT into the TV.

Therefore you have to decide if you want the best picture quality possible with your i1D3, then go with either LightSpace or CalMAN (read their threads attentive!),
or you just want a basic (manual) calibration 2pt/20pt white balance + CMS controls, then go with HCFR, or even DisplayCAL (I think?).

P.S. There is also the free LightSpace ZRO with basic measuring functions (manual calibration).
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OLEDs are probably THE toughest displays to calibrate right now. Any calibration software peculiarities aside, the technical details of commercial OLED sets (four color subpixels and not three making them non-additive, lots of temperature-induced drift, etc) - which have also changed somewhat from model year to model year - make them difficult. The knowledge that's out there right now is intricate and has taken years to accumulate, which is why there is no simple "do A, then B, then C" for them. You absolutely do need to do some research.
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Seems like the CX doesn't have an internal pattern generator to be used with Calman.

What can be done?
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It does have an iTPG, and a second one will be available later.
Have a look at DeviceControl.

https://www.lightillusion.com/lg.html
https://www.lightillusion.com/devicecontrol.html

You can do a lot with just manual calibration, using free software.

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It does have an iTPG, and a second one will be available later.
Have a look at DeviceControl.

https://www.lightillusion.com/lg.html
https://www.lightillusion.com/devicecontrol.html

You can do a lot with just manual calibration, using free software.

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The LG iTPG can be controlled for free with LightSpace?
Am I missing something or did I misinterpret your post?

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The LG iTPG can be controlled for free with LightSpace?
Am I missing something or did I misinterpret your post?
Not directly. You need the Device Control app and templates as Steve mentioned. Check out the references he posted.

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Not directly. You need the Device Control app and templates as Steve mentioned. Check out the references he posted.
I did, but that part implies, that I can't use it for 'free':

"Only Registered Users of a paid LightSpace License can get access to that free LG 2017/2018/2019 Template [...]"

In my understanding I can't use it without paying someone, right?

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I did, but that part implies, that I can't use it for 'free':

"Only Registered Users of a paid LightSpace License can get access to that free LG 2017/2018/2019 Template [...]"

In my understanding I can't use it without paying someone, right?
Correct. He's referring to manual calibration with the free LightSpace version, which can't use the iTPG. You'll have to provide your own pattern source.

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Now I understand, thanks a lot!

TV: LG OLED55C97LA || AVR: Denon AVR-X1600H || Speaker setup (5.1) => Front: 2x DALI Zensor 7 + Surround: 2x DALI Zensor 1 + Center: 1x DALI Zensor Vokal + Subwoofer: Klipsch R-112SW
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Actually, talk to the DeviceControl guys.

There is no reason for Template to not be provided for iTPG control via the Free LightSpace ZRO license.
As no LUT calibration will be being performed, a paid for license would not be required.
It would just need a different Template to be provided.
(I was actually not aware that wasn't available...)

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Seems like the CX doesn't have an internal pattern generator to be used with Calman.

What can be done?
Anyone?
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Actually, talk to the DeviceControl guys.

There is no reason for Template to not be provided for iTPG control via the Free LightSpace ZRO license.
As no LUT calibration will be being performed, a paid for license would not be required.
It would just need a different Template to be provided.
(I was actually not aware that wasn't available...)

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Where are these "guys"? Any tutorials for zero and device control?

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