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post #21091 of 22283 Old 05-19-2016, 07:49 AM
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A little late but Microsoft is releasing old gamertags for use that were abandoned.

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Thanks for the reminder! I was able to claim a new one that I had been eyeballing back in 2011 when I saw it was never used on an Xbox 360.

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Two new SKU's are in the works apparently.

http://kotaku.com/sources-smaller-xb...erf-1778634446

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Microsoft is preparing at least two new Xbox models for release in the next two years, sources tell Kotaku. Later this year we’ll see a cheaper, smaller Xbox One, and next year Microsoft will release a more powerful version of their premiere console.

The 2017 Xbox, which is codenamed Scorpio, will have a more powerful GPU, according to three people familiar with this model, speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to speak about Microsoft’s plans. We hear that it will also be technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift and that Microsoft is pursuing a partnership with Oculus. As for 2016, sources have told us there’s at least a more compact version coming by year’s end. One source believed it will include a larger 2TB hard drive, double the capacity of the most spacious current model. We’re expecting Microsoft to announce the more compact machine at E3 next month. (Kotaku’s Jason Schreier and Kotaku UK’s Keza MacDonald both independently corroborated this information.)

When asked about these plans, Microsoft and Oculus representatives did not provide comment.

The two consoles form part of a wider Microsoft strategy, codenamed “Project Helix” according to one source, to converge Xbox and Windows. For a while now Microsoft has been clear that they want their two prestige brands to work together, as they’ve announced big new exclusives like Halo Wars 2 and Sea of Thieves for both Xbox One and PC. Developer sources have told us that Microsoft’s new mandate is to release future games–including the flagship Halo series–on both platforms. The recently-cancelled Fable Legends, which was playable across Windows 10 and Xbox One, was one of the first games to implement this strategy.

In addition, people familiar with Microsoft’s plans have told Keza that the company is moving toward an iterative approach for their consoles, not unlike Apple. Sources say that instead of one hardware revision every five years or so, as has been the case with previous console cycles, Microsoft plans to move towards an incremental model, with more frequent hardware releases and games that are both forwards and backwards compatible across both Windows 10 and different Xbox models.

In March, Xbox boss Phil Spencer dropped some hints about this new approach, telling journalists that he’d like to see consoles take a PC-like evolution. “I look at the ecosystem that a console sits in and I think that it should have the capability of more iteration on hardware capability,” he said. A few days later, he elaborated. “What I’m saying is as hardware innovations happen we want to be able to embrace those in the console space, and make those available and maybe not have to wait seven or eight years for things to happen.”

Of course, Microsoft is no stranger to changing their high-level hardware plans, as we saw in 2013, when the company reversed course on an always-online Xbox One. With Microsoft, anything can change at any time. We hear that the folks at Xbox have yet to finalize the specs for 2017’s Scorpio, although they briefed third-party publishers on the device during a secret event last week, according to a source.

Development sources raised the concern that although the Scorpio model will be capable of supporting 4K resolution thanks to its GPU upgrade, as of right now there is no planned upgrade to the console’s I/O transfer speed–the speed at which the console can transfer assets from a disc or hard drive to its memory. This could mean long loading times for games specifically designed to support 4K, due to their larger assets.

Two months ago, Kotaku broke the news that Sony is preparing an upgraded version of their PS4, which is code-named Neo and will also have a more powerful GPU. Although Sony has not yet confirmed the existence of that device, other news outlets have come forth to corroborate details. We’ll likely hear more from both first parties next month at their respective E3 press conferences. Microsoft’s event is Monday, June 13 at 12:30pm Eastern. Sony’s is that night at 9pm Eastern.

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Two new SKU's are in the works apparently.

http://kotaku.com/sources-smaller-xb...erf-1778634446
Interesting article. Especially if Oculus and MS are teaming up for the Scorpio in 2017. I hope that this potential new console means it will be modular so we can just upgrade components rather than the system itself.

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Two new SKU's are in the works apparently.

http://kotaku.com/sources-smaller-xb...erf-1778634446
I was hoping they would have the more powerful console out this year. Like the PS4 is supposed to. I guess I'll need to wait for 2017 to upgrade my XBOnes.

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I was hoping they would have the more powerful console out this year. Like the PS4 is supposed to. I guess I'll need to wait for 2017 to upgrade my XBOnes.
agree. disappointing. i miss using my kinect but with the sound issues and no 4k, i just don't use it as much.

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Wow, Polygon's own sources are saying some things including 6 TFLOPs..

http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/25/117...ne-two-scorpio

Those sources also told Polygon that one of those new consoles will be over four times more powerful than the current Xbox One and that the announcement at E3 was triggered by, among other things, a faster-than-expected timeline for Sony’s own upgraded PlayStation 4. The other console, a slimmed-down version of the current hardware, will also be getting a redesigned controller.

Tom Warren at Polygon sister site The Verge reports that the console will be "40 percent smaller than the current model and will likely include 4K support," which will be for video content specifically, though the existing Xbox One models include scaling hardware to output games at various resolutions. Our sources also confirm that this will be the smallest Xbox ever made.

Current plans have the smaller Xbox One scheduled for release this August. Pricing for the system has not been finalized.

The other console, codenamed Scorpio, is unlikely to be released until late 2017, according to Polygon's sources. It will likely be announced in the next month, though plans are somewhat in flux.

Power is a primary concern for Microsoft with Scorpio. The PS4 has remained a constant leader over the Xbox One in this respect, with games on the platform usually running at higher resolution and a higher framerate on the PS4 than their Xbox One counterparts. Microsoft is determined to end this narrative.

The Xbox One is believed to operate a peak target of 1.32 teraflops, compared to the 1.84 teraflop performance numbers attributed to the PS4. Meanwhile, per documents secured by Giant Bomb's Austin Walker — and corroborated by our sources — the PlayStation 4 "Neo," at approximately 2.25 times more powerful than the PS4, is likely to have a peak performance number of 4.14 teraflops.

The current performance target for Microsoft's Scorpio is approximately 6 teraflops.
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A new console war is brewing....

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@6 teraflops that's not bad. Fury X is at 8.6. I wouldn't be surprised if Scorpio was getting a AMD Nano type gpu. Especially with its small form factor.

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But late 2017? I think that will be too late coming out around a year after the PS4 Neo.

Although if it is actually planned to come out over a year after the slimmed down XBOne is released. Then I will probably upgrade one of my XBOnes to the slim version for the lower power usage and for another UHD streaming option. I could really use a smaller XBOne in my UHD TV setup. Since the XBOne and the Sammy UHD BD player are the largest devices I have and currently take up a lot of space.

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Just wondering if any of you guys have read anything about the new consoles doing 4k 60fps?

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Just wondering if any of you guys have read anything about the new consoles doing 4k 60fps?
It's mostly rumors and speculation. There's no solid specs announced yet, but don't expect [email protected] native for most modern games. That's beyond even the highest-end PC at the moment.

Some day, though. I would be happy with the next consoles doing modern games at 1080p/60.
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More fuel to the fire?

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Ars can confirm that at least one major developer is currently planning to release a new virtual reality game on the Xbox One in 2017 and plans to show that game at E3. The news lends credence to multiple recent reports suggesting Microsoft is planning a more powerful, VR-compatible Xbox One for 2017. The information was provided to Ars directly by the developer as part of pre-E3 planning and was confirmed by a PR representative. Ars isn't at liberty to discuss the name of the game or the specific developer, but we can say that a well-known European studio is planning "a new VR game" set in the universe of an established, long-running franchise.
The game is also being planned for release on the PC and PS4, and while it seems likely the E3 demonstration will be on one of those platforms, the PR representative was clear that an Xbox One version was also being planned. The game's working title contains the word "VR," strongly suggesting this isn't merely a VR-compatible game that happens to have a more traditional Xbox One version
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Seems foolish to invest much into the next fad after 3D. I hope they're prepared to lose a bundle if they're actually developing a major VR exclusive game.

5 years from now, VR will be as relevant as 3D displays are today.
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It's mostly rumors and speculation. There's no solid specs announced yet, but don't expect [email protected] native for most modern games. That's beyond even the highest-end PC at the moment.

Some day, though. I would be happy with the next consoles doing modern games at 1080p/60.
Yeah, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of streaming/4K discs.

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Yeah, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of streaming/4K discs.
the rumors say that the slim version of the Xbox One will have 4K playback
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the rumors say that the slim version of the Xbox One will have 4K playback
Where did you read that? Granted I have been ignoring the Slim version since I'm all about the Scorpio right now since I do plan on getting that one. I have zero interest in the NEO and the PSVR. If Scorpio is going to be running Oculus than I can support that since my PC will be running the VIVE

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Zombie Army Trilogy on sale for $16.50 for Xbox one. Damn good deal!

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Where did you read that? Granted I have been ignoring the Slim version since I'm all about the Scorpio right now since I do plan on getting that one. I have zero interest in the NEO and the PSVR. If Scorpio is going to be running Oculus than I can support that since my PC will be running the VIVE
Sources familiar with Microsoft's Xbox plans tell The Verge that the refreshed Xbox One will be 40 percent smaller than the current model, and will likely include 4K video support.

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Sources familiar with Microsoft's Xbox plans tell The Verge that the refreshed Xbox One will be 40 percent smaller than the current model, and will likely include 4K video support.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/25/11...scorpio-rumors
Maybe'll we get lucky and it'll do HDR.

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Seems foolish to invest much into the next fad after 3D. I hope they're prepared to lose a bundle if they're actually developing a major VR exclusive game.

5 years from now, VR will be as relevant as 3D displays are today.
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Maybe'll we get lucky and it'll do HDR.
If they are going to upgrade the HDMI hardware to allow for UHD streaming, then I would certainly hope it would be at least HDMI 2.0a to allow for HDR. It will already need HDCP 2.2 for regular UHD streaming. So it would seem crazy not to have HDR capability.

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It's going to be a given it will have HDR support. The big question is will it be HDR 10 and Dolby vision or just HDR 10.
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I did the double dip as well. Have a couple of friends on the X1 that will like it so they got it after the price drop.
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It will be interesting to see how, if at all, the Kinect is marketed with the Scorpio. I would imagine voice commands will finally be merged into the controller.
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It's going to be a given it will have HDR support. The big question is will it be HDR 10 and Dolby vision or just HDR 10.
EXACTLY. I'm just hoping to get a twofer-it'll double as my new UHD disc player as well LOL.

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Where did you read that? Granted I have been ignoring the Slim version since I'm all about the Scorpio right now since I do plan on getting that one. I have zero interest in the NEO and the PSVR. If Scorpio is going to be running Oculus than I can support that since my PC will be running the VIVE
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/25/11...scorpio-rumors

While Microsoft is rumored to be planning two new "Xbox TV" streaming devices at E3, it appears a slimmer and smaller Xbox One will be unveiled too. References to a new Xbox One wireless chip were discovered last month, and now Kotaku claims Microsoft will release a "cheaper, small Xbox One" later this year. The updated Xbox One is rumored to include a larger 2TB hard drive. Sources familiar with Microsoft's Xbox plans tell The Verge that the refreshed Xbox One will be 40 percent smaller than the current model, and will likely include 4K video support.
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Wonder if the slim will be diskless. That might push digital game sales. Would be nice, I have yet to use the drive in my launch XB1.
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So...any ideas why download speed on my XB1 is so pathetic?

The Xb1 is hard wired.......when I run the network diagnostics........i get 180-200down, 15-20up which matches my ISP service. NAT is open.....everything looks great. Except when I go download a game or game update it takes WAY WAY WAY longer than it should. Just last night I downloaded the Blood and Wine expansion for Witcher 3 and it literally took better part of half a day. PCs on the same network would download the equivalent in a tiny fraction of that time.

Its been this way from day one........guess its just now starting to bug me =P
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That makes no sense @RafaelSmith . It's weird since the NAT is open and so you should be getting good speeds. How big was that expansion? I know your connection speed can vary even hard wired.mine does, but I figure it's because of peak times.

When was the last time you did a hard reboot? Any cache to clear also? You may have to call into live short on that one.

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