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I'm very curious on its ability to beat out the denon 3800 is PQ and SQ? It's load time and upgrade path looks better than the denon. At least the ease of upgrade(via ethernet).
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I am on break and will post part 2 soon. I have been testing and comparing all day...

Yo!, break over, get back to work will ya!

j/k Joe, you have us all anxiously awaiting
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if you could comment on fan noise it would be most appreciated

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if you could comment on fan noise it would be most appreciated

referring to that behind the unit or in here?
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Thanks for the honest down to earth review...I figured as much. It's refreshing to know that PQ is pretty much the same on all models. Also the sound through HDMI should be on par with all units. I'm going to stick with good old reliable Panny and use the money I saved towards another Projector for my bedroom...
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Is the PQ and AQ of S5000 comparable as well to the Denon 2500BTCI Joe? I mostly watch Blu ray movies anyway and don't care about the upconversion. I have the Denon 3808CI receiver and it's quite a good match. Thanks for the excellent review
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I find these reviews on the 5000ES to be lacking to say the least. No comment on crossover frequencies, 2 channel analog playback or component playback.
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I find these reviews on the 5000ES to be lacking to say the least. No comment on crossover frequencies, 2 channel analog playback or component playback.

He'll catch all that I'm sure, be patient. Besides, you get what you pay for, right?

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Joe's review was just a short first impression. If you want him to test something "specifically" (like the items you mentioned) - it might be better to ask nicely rather than say the review is lacking.

Me personally - I'm using HDMI for audio / video and so these items you mentioned are of little or no importance. If you want complete and detailed test results you may need to wait for other reviews (where reviewers are actually paid to do the reviewing).
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He'll catch all that I'm sure, be patient. Besides, you get what you pay for, right?


Right.
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I just got the chance to get back to posting. Sorry for the delay. Please do remember though it takes time to post observations. I am plugging and unplugging 6 or 7 different players as well as playing many different titles in each unit! I want to be thorough and not rush. I have now had 48 hours of hard work. I apologize if this is considered lacking as far as anyone's standards for reviews go.

Alright, so in part 2 of the S5000ES review I am going to bring up the SD dvd playback as well as other features of the player. I will throw in a few answers to some of the questions that have been asked to.

SD dvds... I will say I was very impressed with the SD dvd performance. It is only second to (and just barely) the 3800's HQV chip. I will say they are very close and that most would not be able to pick which is which. Sony delivered there. The 3800 and S5000ES are head and shoulders above the rest in SD dvd performance. I tested about 8 titles. And yes the S5000ES can do 480i or be put into an AUTO mode. Overall I was not expecting the SD dvd performance to rival the 3800's. It was a nice surprise. As for the other units and where they land. They are similar but the Pioneer 51FD beats out the BD35, PS3, sony 350, as well as the others on my list.

MultiChannel Audio... I did decide to do it old school style and listen to the analogs. They sound excellent and on par with the 3800's excellent performance. I do not have the 550 to compare so I apologize for not being able to help there. Speaker settings are like you would expect. Sizes, levels and distances. I did not see a crossover option but I wouldn't use it anyway since that is what my receiver is for. Whether you Bitstream or go Analog you will not be disappointed in the sound. Top notch.

I was asked about Day After Tomorrow. Sorry that is a Christmas gift so I am not allowed to open up my Bond sets yet.

Hulk played fine the entire movie. No issues. Actually I have now tested loading 200 titles and all worked!

On another note I hooked up a WET Linksys (ethernet wireless adaptor) and it worked easily. Really cool and looking forward to easy software updates like the PS3.

Mark, as for noise I have not heard the fan turn on. It very well could have at times but right now it is silent. The S5000ES is not loud and noise will not be a factor for anyone.

I am also including a few pics of what the Display button looks like when pushed on the remote. And also what the Options button does to. I was asked about it showing how much time is remaining. Yes, it does that.

I will be posting more and more this afternoon...
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Thanks for the effort man......This box sounds very nice!

Bet it would look awesome stacked with an XA-5400......

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This one is definitely eye candy reference quality material...
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That menu( the middle pic) looks vaguely like the DHG-HDD menus. Popping up on the right side like that, can you roll over in that menu?

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Yes, you can roll into the other options in that menu while watching you movie. Comes in handy when doing picture adjustments.

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Hi Joe.

Splendid review you're giving us

Can you confirm whether the 5000ES is DLNA compliant or not ?

Thanx in advance

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Thanks, Joe.
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I can't confirm whether its DLNA compliant or not. I am still looking for documentation or a logo somewhere. I hope you are not basing a purchasing decision off of that.

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Someone asked me to expound upon the HD Reality Enhancer feature... Sony states that it provides realtime parsing pixel-by-pixel, performs optimum smoothing, clarifies details, removes noise and achieves smoother gradation in video signals during playback.
And from what I have seen it does work! This is what separates this unit from the 550/350/PS3 and other competition.

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To gbaby, for some reason you want to know about component playback? I guess if you are thinking about getting a MSRP $1999 Bu-ray player and only plan to use component then that is important. Anyway, you will be glad to know the picture looks good but in no way compares to HDMI and 1080p/24. Anymore tests that would not make my impressions seem lacking to you?

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Thanks Jerrod, great review. I will buy either the 3800 or the 5000. I like the idea of the 3800 having several crossover fequency options for multichannel analog, but the S5000 is a much better looking player. But, the 3800 can be had for some 500.00 to 800.00 off retail so its a hard decision right now. But, in all candor, I am still leaning to the S5000, but may wait until they come off the retail price.
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You can't go wrong with either or. I like both of them. If I had to choose just one...

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To gbaby, for some reason you want to know about component playback? I guess if you are thinking about getting a MSRP $1999 Bu-ray player and only plan to use component then that is important. Anyway, you will be glad to know the picture looks good but in no way compares to HDMI and 1080p/24. Anymore tests that would not make my impressions seem lacking to you?


Would you say navigating through the Sony remote was easier than the Denon's remote. Wife factor?'
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So now I plan to use DVE and the HQV calibration and test discs to see just how good the S5000ES is... I will start tonite...

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Aerialsound, the Wife factor here favors the Sony hands down. Of course she is used to seeing the X Media Cross Bar from the PS3. Anyone could get used to either of them though. I will say for me personally I like the simple X bar of the Sony better. It is very down to the point. EIther you are going to watch a movie (default) or you movie it to the left to look at (or listen to) music, photos and then of course there is the System Set Up. Very easy.

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And as far as remotes go they are both nice. I do like the fact that the Sony lights up though. Of course most would use a Universal Remote (or Harmony) anyway. Either way both are layed out well.

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I'd wait until Sony's next ES player, as they typically come down in price as features and performance improve. That was the case with the 9000ES, 999ES, and finally the 9100ES, which I own and now use for its awesome CD playback. The 5000ES looks very appealing (and thanks to Joe for his detailed review!) but I don't see how most people can justify the extra $1600 over the BDP-550. Believe me, I'm tempted by this player and come December will be able to spring for it, but I doubt I'll see or hear a difference that makes it worth the huge step up. Makes me wish Sony would do a middle ground ES player like Denon and Pioneer do!

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