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Use of component video on Oppo 93

I need to use component video because of having a legacy AVR.
I would like to do this with an OPPO 93.
Will my blu ray automatically be reduced to less than 1080 because of the ICT (image constraint token).
Does which firmware I have make a difference and whether the OPPO was manufactured early or more toward 2012?
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I need to use component video because of having a legacy AVR.
I would like to do this with an OPPO 93.
Will my blu ray automatically be reduced to less than 1080 because of the ICT (image constraint token).
Does which firmware I have make a difference and whether the OPPO was manufactured early or more toward 2012?
Thank you
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The Blu-ray will not be reduced unless the studio has included the ICT in the disc's authoring, and almost no discs were ever made that way due to market pressures. Instead the studios forced the "Analog Sunset" -- the prohibition against having ANY Analog video outputs in new players. Firmware notes are in the first post of this thread.
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Thank you for your instantaneous reply
I just read over the firmware notes on post one. There were a lot of them!
I did not see anything about an automatic reduction of resolution if I use component video with blu ray.
So assuming the manufacturer of the disks do not embed an ICT does that mean I should be fine (in terms of not downsizing the resolutions) in purchasing an OPP0 93 regardless of firmware version or manufacture date?

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Manufacturing date is not an issue. There are plenty of OTHER things in the firmware updates, but none that affect ICT. So no worries on that score. You can update whatever you get to the latest firmware.
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Manufacturing date is not an issue. There are plenty of OTHER things in the firmware updates, but none that affect ICT. So no worries on that score. You can update whatever you get to the latest firmware.
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Thanks again Bob
That was 99% of my concern.
I doubt if I would ever use Iso's (mainly just rent blu rays over Netflix or Red box) but is that ability gone for ever because of updates?
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That was 99% of my concern.
I doubt if I would ever use Iso's (mainly just rent blu rays over Netflix or Red box) but is that ability gone for ever because of updates?
Yes. ISO support existed for just a few weeks. It is gone forever, as a gift to you from the Studios. (No need to thank them. It's all part of the service.)
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Yes. ISO support existed for just a few weeks. It is gone forever, as a gift to you from the Studios. (No need to thank them. It's all part of the service.)
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Shhh. There is one they didn't catch.

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Just found that I can make my old 93 look as good on a DVD as my 103 (which I'm getting rid of) by raising the Sharpness control in the 93's HDMI 1 setting to 4. (This is on the DVDs of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 - which are fairly soft - with a 50" 1080p LCD TV.)

My question is whether this has any adverse effect on Blu-ray play.

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Just found that I can make my old 93 look as good on a DVD as my 103 (which I'm getting rid of) by raising the Sharpness control in the 93's HDMI 1 setting to 4. (This is on the DVDs of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 - which are fairly soft - with a 50" 1080p LCD TV.)

My question is whether this has any adverse effect on Blu-ray play.
You're probably the only one who can tell.

I have the 93 and the 203 but a Kuro TV. I currently play .ISO backup Blu-ray films using the 93 and play rental DVD and Blue-ray films on the 203. I have never used sharpness controls.

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Just found that I can make my old 93 look as good on a DVD as my 103 (which I'm getting rid of) by raising the Sharpness control in the 93's HDMI 1 setting to 4. (This is on the DVDs of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 - which are fairly soft - with a 50" 1080p LCD TV.)

My question is whether this has any adverse effect on Blu-ray play.
"4" is a pretty severe sharpness boost and will certainly result in some ringing.
I use HDMI-2 exclusively from the BDP-93 which avoids the softening that HDMI-1 can produce. The un-defeatable NR in HDMI-1 is source-adaptive, meaning that DVD will have more softening than BD will.
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Just found that I can make my old 93 look as good on a DVD as my 103 (which I'm selling on eBay because I got myself a 203) by raising the Sharpness control in the 93's HDMI 1 setting to 4. (This is on the DVDs of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 - which are fairly soft - with a 50" 1080p LCD TV.)

My question is whether this has any adverse effect on Blu-ray play.
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"4" is a pretty severe sharpness boost and will certainly result in some ringing.
I use HDMI-2 exclusively from the BDP-93 which avoids the softening that HDMI-1 can produce. The un-defeatable NR in HDMI-1 is source-adaptive, meaning that DVD will have more softening than BD will.
Before I read your response, I had - in line with the manual's advice that +2 should be the most used - tried dialing the sharpness back from +4 to +2, which still looked ok - but I'll try switching from HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 and see what that looks like.


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By my read of the Oppo 93 manual it has two video processing chips and HDMI output 1 always gets the better one so that's the port with the best image and the most features for adjustments, whereas HDMI 2 has less control :

"6. Sharpness: To set the sharpness of video output. Sharpness (also called Detail/Edge
Enhancement in previous OPPO players) is a video processing function that can control the
image sharpness but at the same time may cause unwanted artifacts.
For HDMI 1, the sharpness level can be set between -16 and +16. The default is level 0, which
turns off sharpness enhancement. The negative levels may be used to reduce or eliminate
overly sharpened video. However, the picture may appear soft. The positive levels increase
the sharpness.
􀁺 At level 1, the player applies low level Detail Enhancement, during which the video
processor isolates the detailed parts from the original image, processes them separately
and integrates back before the final output.
􀁺 At level 2, the player increases Detail Enhancement to a higher level. Generally, to make
an image “sharper”, we recommend using level 1 and 2.
􀁺 At level 3 and above, the player adds Luminance Transition Improvement (LTI) and
Chroma Transition Improvement (CTI), which further sharpen the luminance transition and
chroma transition. However, we do not recommend using level 3 and above unless the
source content is poorly produced and blurry.
For HDMI 2 & Analog, the sharpness level can be set between 0 and +2. The default is level
0. The higher the level, the sharper the video details are. However, too high a sharpness level
may cause while line etching around objects."

My casual examination just showed these sharpness adjustments are not enabled while the movie is actually playing so setting them on the fly is not possible. Correct?
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I have picked up a used Oppo BDP 93 and the unit seems to be stuck at startup.

The player powers on, the power light will change from red to blue, the player front display will show HELLO at startup and then nothing, the disc drawer will open and close. If I place a disc in player, it does nothing.

On the screen display shows the Oppo and Blu-Ray Disc logos.

The remote control lights, the power button and eject button are the only button that will work on the remote.

I was hoping to find a way to hard reset the unit, but all the searches lead me to using the Oppo setup menu to do this, which I can't currently access.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

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Some success... I found this post

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-bl...l#post29071641

which outlined the procedure from Oppo to check your unit, once I did this it was able to get to OPPO and then NO DISC

Now to figure out how to get it to handshake with my TCL 4K

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Figured it out, hooked the Oppo up to a spare computer monitor and was able to get to the Oppo setup menu and did a full reset along with upgrading to the latest firmware from Oppo, handshake with my TCL is working!
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Just an FYI, Emotiva XMC-1 owners recently got an upgrade to this processor in the form of a new 4K/HDMI 2.0b/HDCP 2.2 video board and Oppo's non-4K players(in our case the BDP-83 & 93) were passing video but NOT passing audio through HDMI. After a few of our Emotiva Lounge members sent e-mails to Oppo, they responded with this:



"If you recently upgraded your receiver to one that supports HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, then you will need to upgrade your player's firmware. This firmware can be downloaded off of our website, and then extracted to a FAT formatted USB drive.


download.oppodigital.com/BDP0903/BDP9X_85-0106B.zip


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Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc."
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Hi All,

I just purchased a Oppo 93 used. Is this player still one of the best for 1080P BD playback?

I have a JVC X35 projector on a 110" 16:9 fixed screen.

I currently have a Sony S350 entry level BD player which the Oppo will replace unless you recommend me keeping it just in case the Oppo won't play some BD's?

Will I be able to tell the difference in video quality between an Oppo 93 and my Sony?

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Will I be able to tell the difference in video quality between an Oppo 93 and my Sony?
(a) Probably not, but (b) no one can say what another person can see.

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(a) Probably not, but (b) no one can say what another person can see.

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Thanks fair enough. I also got it for the dual HDMI as my AVR doesn't support 3D passthrough.
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Just an FYI, Emotiva XMC-1 owners recently got an upgrade to this processor in the form of a new 4K/HDMI 2.0b/HDCP 2.2 video board and Oppo's non-4K players(in our case the BDP-83 & 93) were passing video but NOT passing audio through HDMI. After a few of our Emotiva Lounge members sent e-mails to Oppo, they responded with this:
This HDCP issue is kind of old news. But I found another solution, which is to output the 93 into the HDMI input of the BDP-203. The only reason I mess with that is to retain ISO capability in the 93, which you lose with the newer firmware. Anyway I set the 93 for source direct output and the 203 does the scaling and deinterlacing. I haven't tried this using a 103, but I'm guessing it would also work.
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Thanks fair enough. I also got it for the dual HDMI as my AVR doesn't support 3D passthrough.
My 93 has one HDMI output. Could you possibly have a 103?

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My 93 has one HDMI output. Could you possibly have a 103?
Hmm it definitely has two HDMI's. I am in Australia if that makes any difference?
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Hmm it definitely has two HDMI's. I am in Australia if that makes any difference?
If the front of your OPPO is labeled BDP-93 than I don't know, but Bob does.

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My 93 has two HDMI outputs. That is one of the primary reasons I bought it. I live in the US.


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If the front of your OPPO is labeled BDP-93 than I don't know, but Bob does.


Ok. Maybe yours is a 83?


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The 93 does have two HDMI Outputs, and zero HDMI Inputs.

I believe the 103 has two HDMI Outputs AND two HDMI Inputs (1 front and 1 rear).
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Nope. I sold the 83 to pay for the 93.



I just found it all the way to the left of the HDMI port that I'm using. Dumb, but I'm happy to have another HDMI port.

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Thanks Bill. I guess I'm a plug and forget user.

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Does the oppo 93 support mkv HD audio passthrough via DLNA?

And does it support 4tb HDD?

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