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Is the picture quality of the 93 same as 103?

If using 1080p native. No 4k upscaling for both assuming.
They use different chip sets and are not identical, but so close that you need to squint at test patterns to see the difference.

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They use different chip sets and are not identical, but so close that you need to squint at test patterns to see the difference.



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Ok thanks bill. I take it the 103 chipset should be the improved one over the 93?


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Ok thanks bill. I take it the 103 chipset should be the improved one over the 93?
In terms of the picture quality they are "different", hard to qualify as improved. DVD quality reached its limit with previous models and Blu-ray is pretty much ready to display as is.

There are feature differences between the models. See the FAQ: How is the BDP-103 different from the BDP-93?

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. Does that firmware support SACD-R?
It should, but I haven't tested it.
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If you don’t mind updating the firmware in the 93, you can get firmware from OPPO which should let the 93 work even with the Input of the 203 set to allow UHD HDR.
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The link for this firmware is in post 28516 above.
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Does this new firmware cause any problem with compatibility with older devices, like if you plug the 93 into the input of a 1080p unit that isn't HDMI-2.0 or HDCP-2.2 compatibile?

My 93 spends its time feeding my wife's 1080p Sharp Roku TV that already has makes a click at the beginning of any new track when fed audio over HDMI by the 93, whether the beginning of a Blu-ray disk - not a big problem - or the beginning of each song on a CD. (This doesn't occur with my Fire Stick - on a different HDMI jack - but does with my 203 if I connect it to the HDMI cable normally plugged into the 93.)


I don't want to risk making the problem worse by installing this upgrade.


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Does this new firmware cause any problem with compatibility with older devices, like if you plug the 93 into the input of a 1080p unit that isn't HDMI-2.0 or HDCP-2.2 compatibile?

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It should not, but this is the reason its not publicly available - it hasn't been widely tested. But you can always flash a 93 to an earlier revision if you don't like it.
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It should not, but this is the reason its not publicly available - it hasn't been widely tested. But you can always flash a 93 to an earlier revision if you don't like it.
I thought that Oppo began preventing downgrading/going back to previous firmware years ago. Or is this an exception when using only this firmware?
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I thought that Oppo began preventing downgrading/going back to previous firmware years ago. Or is this an exception when using only this firmware?
That only blocks downgrading from official firmware. You can always go back to the previous official firmware from a beta.

But when I downloaded this new firmware and tried to install it via USB the 93 declared it to be corrupt - after two download attempts, I gave up.

I did notice that unlike the prior official upgrade, which had three files in the UPG folder, this one only had two.

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I thought that Oppo began preventing downgrading/going back to previous firmware years ago.
Its been a few years since this was discussed ad nauseum. The process for reverse flashing the 93 is widely available. But the bottom line still remains: if you need ISO support do not flash the new firmware.
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Its been a few years since this was discussed ad nauseum. The process for reverse flashing the 93 is widely available. But the bottom line still remains: if you need ISO support do not flash the new firmware.
I was informed in January of this year that you can no longer roll back from beta firmware.

Now unless Bob's comment was for the UDP models only and does not apply to recent firmware releases for the older BDP models, I would love to see some clarification.

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Care to point to or PM that 'widely available' reverse flash process? Personally, I have never seen the info or heard the process even though I monitor these forums almost on a daily basis. But yes, I remember the 'discussed ad nauseam' part.

Additionally, I was informed in January of this year that you can no longer roll back from beta firmware.

Now unless Bob's comment was for the UDP models only and does not apply to recent firmware releases for the older BDP models, I would love to see some clarification.
The 20x Oppo models are a completely different thing. Back then, it was reported in some circles that you needed to have a hardware region mod installed to back-flash the 93, but that was propagated by the people selling region mods. The process is out there floating around in the ether, but we've never been allowed to discuss it here. It has nothing to do with beta vs official firmware.
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The Pioneer is HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2, which the Oppo cannot play nice with unless you get a specific firmware from Oppo. (Its not a public firmware)
Contact Oppo support for the firmware. Be advised that the new firmware will disable ISO support if you've been using that.

https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx?CatID=1
Has any tried or know if this will work without updating the firmware > https://www.hdfury.com/product/integral-2/
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Has any tried or know if this will work without updating the firmware > https://www.hdfury.com/product/integral-2/
It should work, as does feeding the 93 through a 203 HDMI input.
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I just wanted to welcome myself to this thread. I got a good deal on a BDP-93 at an estate sale over the weekend.

I have been needing another BDP and figured I'd just buy another cheap Sony. But I'm excited to see how this one works out for me. My PJ is not going to be 4K for a long time, so I think this Oppo will work nicely for me.
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I have a new marantz 7012 and my oppo 93 will not output audio now with the marantz...Any ideas guys, I went through all the settings. It worked fine on my old yamaha a3000
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I have a new marantz 7012 and my oppo 93 will not output audio now with the marantz...Any ideas guys, I went through all the settings. It worked fine on my old yamaha a3000
This is the HDMI 2 and HDCP 2.2 bug. Discussed several times earlier in this thread. Contact Oppo support and ask for the firmware that fixes this.
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This is the HDMI 2 and HDCP 2.2 bug. Discussed several times earlier in this thread. Contact Oppo support and ask for the firmware that fixes this.


Could someone please put the firmware up on Dropbox for the group?

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I turned off HDR color on my samsung Q6 and I have sound again, does the updated firmware fix this, I will try...

Thank You Guys for the Information as now I updated the firmware and re enabled hdr color and I have sound...


Thank You!!!

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i have an OPPO BDP-93 which has developed a "slow boot" problem. If I power it on from the red light standby state, the light goes off and then several minutes later, I'll get "hello", "oppo" a blue light and eventual normal operation. If I turn it off and on at this point it will reboot in a few seconds. Wait for a while and it is back in the four minute to boot state. The behavior is the same when I disconnect everything except power (ie ethernet and the TV). I've already had this unit repaired once by OPPO, where I think they replaced the power supply. If I had to make a wild guess I would blame power again - it now has to warm up to work properly - but that is sheer guesswork. Anybody have any things I can try?

Sorry about the multiple post - I accidentally first posted this in the OPPO BDP-103 thread and haven't figured how to delete it.
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i have an OPPO BDP-93 which has developed a "slow boot" problem. If I power it on from the red light standby state, the light goes off and then several minutes later, I'll get "hello", "oppo" a blue light and eventual normal operation. If I turn it off and on at this point it will reboot in a few seconds. Wait for a while and it is back in the four minute to boot state. The behavior is the same when I disconnect everything except power (ie ethernet and the TV). I've already had this unit repaired once by OPPO, where I think they replaced the power supply. If I had to make a wild guess I would blame power again - it now has to warm up to work properly - but that is sheer guesswork. Anybody have any things I can try?

Sorry about the multiple post - I accidentally first posted this in the OPPO BDP-103 thread and haven't figured how to delete it.
This is a question for Oppo support. I think a minute is more or less normal for the 93/95 boot times.
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i have an OPPO BDP-93 which has developed a "slow boot" problem. If I power it on from the red light standby state, the light goes off and then several minutes later, I'll get "hello", "oppo" a blue light and eventual normal operation. If I turn it off and on at this point it will reboot in a few seconds. Wait for a while and it is back in the four minute to boot state. The behavior is the same when I disconnect everything except power (ie ethernet and the TV). I've already had this unit repaired once by OPPO, where I think they replaced the power supply. If I had to make a wild guess I would blame power again - it now has to warm up to work properly - but that is sheer guesswork. Anybody have any things I can try?

Sorry about the multiple post - I accidentally first posted this in the OPPO BDP-103 thread and haven't figured how to delete it.


The only other thing you can try -- short of another repair -- is a complete Reset of the player.

1) Remove any disc in the tray and turn off the player. Unplug everything except power and HDMI to your TV. If you are using the Wifi dongle, that too should be unplugged.

2) Power up, Erase Persistent Storage, and then Reset Factory Defaults.

3) Power off the player and then unplug the HDMI connection and wall power connection.

4) While still unplugged from power, Press and Hold the Power button on the Front Panel for a few seconds. This is to drain any residual power in the low level hardware, forcing a complete reboot of that hardware.

5) Connect just wall power (no HDMI or anything else) and power up again. If the problem appears fixed (boot up time is quick again as determined by Front Panel messages), power off the unit and let it sit for long enough to cool off and then retry that same power up (still only power cord connected). If the problem STILL appears to be fixed, start by just reconnecting HDMI and see if the power up is still normal. Then connect anything else -- one at a time -- to see if the problem returns. If so, the last item you connected is likely the culprit. Typical culprits would be a connected USB device, or a networking connection that's flooding the player with bogus requests.

If the complete reset DOESN'T fix the problem (with everything disconnected), the player likely needs service again. Depending on when you had the power module replaced, OPPO may be able to treat this as a Warranty repair.

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ETA NOTE: Boot up time for the player will be faster if you have Quick Start set. But if the player is disconnected from wall power (unplugged or after a power failure), the first boot up after restoring power will be the normal, longer, complete boot up instead of Quick Start.
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The only other thing you can try -- short of another repair -- is a complete Reset of the player.

1) Remove any disc in the tray and turn off the player. Unplug everything except power and HDMI to your TV. If you are using the Wifi dongle, that too should be unplugged.

2) Power up, Erase Persistent Storage, and then Reset Factory Defaults.

3) Power off the player and then unplug the HDMI connection and wall power connection.

4) While still unplugged from power, Press and Hold the Power button on the Front Panel for a few seconds. This is to drain any residual power in the low level hardware, forcing a complete reboot of that hardware.

5) Connect just wall power (no HDMI or anything else) and power up again. If the problem appears fixed (boot up time is quick again as determined by Front Panel messages), power off the unit and let it sit for long enough to cool off and then retry that same power up (still only power cord connected). If the problem STILL appears to be fixed, start by just reconnecting HDMI and see if the power up is still normal. Then connect anything else -- one at a time -- to see if the problem returns. If so, the last item you connected is likely the culprit. Typical culprits would be a connected USB device, or a networking connection that's flooding the player with bogus requests.

If the complete reset DOESN'T fix the problem (with everything disconnected), the player likely needs service again. Depending on when you had the power module replaced, OPPO may be able to treat this as a Warranty repair.

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ETA NOTE: Boot up time for the player will be faster if you have Quick Start set. But if the player is disconnected from wall power (unplugged or after a power failure), the first boot up after restoring power will be the normal, longer, complete boot up instead of Quick Start.
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Thanks. I already tried the procedure you described - suggested by an earlier post of yours. The complete reset didn't change the behavior (with or without everything disconnected). I looked around for "Quick Start", but couldn't find it in the setup menu or in the FAQs.. How do I access that setting? The previous repair was about two years ago. I assume the warrant is at most one.
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^ My mistake. Quick Start was added in the 10x players -- not in your 93.

Well get in touch with OPPO anyway, and let them know the history. See what they say about the 2nd repair.
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Thanks. I have a new Marantz AV8805 and as soon as I changed the HDMI to enhanced, the sound stopped working. With this firmware, all seems fine.... SJ
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Good evening Bob and everyone.
I just tonight acquired a near mint 95.
It's firmware is older, BDP9X-38-0126.
Is this the good f2f for I so or do I want to upgrade to the latest?
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Good evening Bob and everyone.
I just tonight acquired a near mint 95.
It's firmware is older, BDP9X-38-0126.
Is this the good f2f for I so or do I want to upgrade to the latest?
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That is very old and dates from before when ISO was added and then removed. ISO file support appeared in firmware 50-0608 and was removed in firmware 64-0119.

I would update to the latest. The first post in this thread has a complete history of firmware versions.

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