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post #1111 of 2100 Old 09-28-2014, 01:51 PM
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It does light up, but after a little bit, it turns off. If there is a menu setting that makes it stay on all the time, I am up for it like white on rice.
Check that Setup -> Device Setup -> Front Panel Brightness is "Standard".

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^ In addition the Light button (lower right on the remote) will, as a side effect, also temporarily light up the Front Panel regardless of the Front Panel Brightness setting.
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Another vote for Thumbnail View on streamed media. Both my Sony and WDTV Live have it.
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Another vote for Thumbnail View on streamed media. Both my Sony and WDTV Live have it.
Is this different from what you can get now with the thumbnail view of Artists or Albums? (The two option selection fields in the upper right of the OPPO media files Browser screen.)
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Is this different from what you can get now with the thumbnail view of Artists or Albums? (The two option selection fields in the upper right of the OPPO media files Browser screen.)
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I know with my Sony TV, it has a preview thumbnail of the MKV file for the videos in the folder you are viewing.
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I know with my Sony TV, it has a preview thumbnail of the MKV file for the videos in the folder you are viewing.
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Is this different from what you can get now with the thumbnail view of Artists or Albums? (The two option selection fields in the upper right of the OPPO media files Browser screen.)
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Like that, but for network connections.

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My list is short (beyond any audio/video improvements)

1) XBMC like front end for stored media playback via DAS or NAS or at least available on a hand held device (iphone/iPad, Android) as part of remote operations.
2) LCD screen that is on front of the unit that can slide up if need be and thus avoid having to have TV on to make some media selections (music files and discs come to mind).
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Is this different from what you can get now with the thumbnail view of Artists or Albums? (The two option selection fields in the upper right of the OPPO media files Browser screen.)
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Here is an example of the thumbnail display when using the OPPO for streaming vs. the Sony streaming built into the TV. One of the advantages of the Oppo is that when you click on a file to play it loads much much faster but the thumbnails on the Sony are nice.
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please add support for xvYCC on BD.
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^ xvYCC is already nearly obsolete -- to be replaced by REC 2020 when 4K discs and next generation 4K TVs appear.
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^^ some Sony BD releases use it (today). I'll just have to keep buying Sony if Oppo can't implement it.

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^ Yep. Just saying, it's pretty much a Sony-only thing, not supportable in the current OPPO players (as far as I know) and unlikely something OPPO would put effort into for future players given the new standard that's coming.
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^^ some Sony BD releases use it (today). I'll just have to keep buying Sony if Oppo can't implement it.
I've compared Sony BR players with Oppo and TRUST me the oppo is far superior. Sony used to make GREAT players back when the ES line really was an ES line. I can't tell you how many Sony DVD, BR, preamps I bought over the years back when they had the real ES line. The last few ES products I took the time to look at were crap. Some of my friends bought the "high end" sony players to save money and I would never buy one after taking the time to tweak their TVs for them. Of course that is my subjective opinion - I don't have any charts or diagrams comparing color gamut or anything like that.

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^^ I know all about that, in fact I have both, but having two players on one shelf is a bit of a pain.
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^^ some Sony BD releases use it (today). I'll just have to keep buying Sony if Oppo can't implement it.
From what I understand, Sony's xvYCC colour implementation only works when the Blu-ray appropriate disc is played using a compatible Sony Blu-ray disc player which is in-turn connected to a compatible Sony TV...

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^^ I heard that too. It could be that Sony is not allowing other manufacturers to implement xvColor on BD, but I would like to see a statement from Oppo if that's the case or not. Other players (Panasonic, Yamaha, Pioneer) clearly state that they support xvYCC on other media, but not on BD.
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I just stumbled on this thread, so maybe someone else has talked about this.

My setup is quite simple -- all I need is a blu ray player, one or two additional digital sources, preamp functionality with room correction, and the ability to stream files over the network. The 103 can already do most of that pretty well if I'm not mistaken.

I would love to see them take the 103 and give it the ability to fully implement Dolby Atmos and have at least 13 (preferably 15) preamp outputs. Spruce up the preamp functionality a bit, including more flexible bass management and speaker configuration systems, and add a good room correction system (Audyssey or perhaps Dirac Live) or at least a solid PEQ solution for all channels. Sell it for around the current price of the 105. And probably wait until the blu ray UHD/4k spec is finalized so it can be implemented as well. I'd be in line, myself.

Heh, this might be too much to ask . . .

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^... and make the digital room correction software so that can be implemented in front of a top tier DAC and add front panel volume control and holy mamma, we're in business.
I don't think it would sell for the same as current prices though. Probably more.
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Well, certainly and clearly not for the same price as the current 103. I was hoping to add all that stuff to the 103 and then sell it for somewhere around the 105's price.

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I would love to see them take the 103 and give it the ability to fully implement Dolby Atmos and have at least 13 (preferably 15) preamp outputs.
It would tip over from the weight of the cables.

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It would tip over from the weight of the cables.

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Obviously they would have an onboard graviton field generator to prevent such a thing - sheesh
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Obviously they would have an onboard graviton field generator to prevent such a thing - sheesh
Here is an example of an automobile with the aforementioned feature installed, in case we need an example.
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1) XBMC like front end for stored media playback via DAS or NAS or at least available on a hand held device (iphone/iPad, Android) as part of remote operations.
I'd rather a XBMC plugin. And/or a plex plugin.

Why invent another app to do the same thing?
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I'd like to see them fix the IR part of the remote control. Whether it is the hand held part of the receiving part, not needing to have the hand held part in perfect alignment with the player would be nice.
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^ Yes I think the 10x IR sensing is improved over the 9x players, but pretty typical of most standard IR components.
I have my equipment rack in the back of my theater room, and I can bounce the IR off my projection screen and it operates the player no problem.
I have two other IR components in the rack too, and neither one of those will bounce off the screen, not strong enough.
Having said that, I wish more components would start offering RF remote solutions.
I know there are the aftermarket RF remotes, but personally I don't care for most of them, and I think the best ones just cost too much.
Oppo does have the Media Control and Remote apps to use also, so that is a very good thing if you have either a smartphone or tablet to use with it.
The MC app only works with the 10x players though. I think the stand alone Remote app might work with the 9x players though.
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Having said that, I wish more components would start offering RF remote solutions.
As long as they don't remove IR and/or RS-232 support. Aftermarket programmable remotes usually can't operate devices that only use RF remotes.
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As long as they don't remove IR and/or RS-232 support. Aftermarket programmable remotes usually can't operate devices that only use RF remotes.
Agreed - especially since there is really no signaling standard for use by RF remotes like there is for IR, so the idea of just doing things with pulse codes and having that signaling be compatible across devices as it is with IR is pretty well impossible with RF as used in current remote controls.

RS232 and RF remotes should die the nasty, violent death generally reserved for tyrants - to be replaced by TCP/IP, which, when used over WiFi, provides ALL of the benefits of RF as well as a mechanism for MEANINGFUL, 2-WAY conversations between the remote and the player --- instead of the crappy "I'm the remote so do what I say and don't talk back to me" interaction model that IR and RF remotes have today.

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^EHHH? If RF is so bad, then why do the most popular and expensive 3rd party remotes use that technology?
FFS, garage door openers have used it for decades but yet all the engineers in the a/v industry can't get it to work reliably?
hmm...

Wifi remotes would be cool. Has anyone even made one like that?
AFAIK, only phones and tablets use it thus far, but I would think that if an OEM wanted to make a remote to use over wifi, that would be fairly easy to do.
It could come with a traditional IR remote, and offer a wifi remote as an add on.
...and before you say just use your smartphone, not everyone uses one, including me and 50 other people.
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^EHHH? If RF is so bad, then why do the most popular and expensive 3rd party remotes use that technology?
The best 3rd party remotes (AMX, Crestron, RTI, some of the higher end Harmony remotes, etc.) use RF (and/or WiFi) to talk to a base unit, using that company's RF protocol. The base unit then locally sends out IR, RS-232, etc. to control the actual device locally. The base units from Crestron and AMX contain a LOT of smarts and capabilities to do a lot more than just control your TV and Bluray player - they can control fancy light dimmers, interface with security systems, control video walls, use contact closure to trigger garage door openers (bypassing the RF mess), control HVAC, control telephone conference systems, and all sorts of other stuff. There are a lot of advantages to going through that base unit rather than controlling the device direct from the remote.

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FFS, garage door openers have used it for decades but yet all the engineers in the a/v industry can't get it to work reliably?
hmm...
The problem is that there's no well defined standard for RF remotes like there is for IR, and RS-232. So including support for RF control would most likely require a LOT of extra electronics and programming to support all the different standards.

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Wifi remotes would be cool. Has anyone even made one like that?
The problem is that you can't control a device directly unless it has support for being controlled over the network. So the highest end remotes from companies like Crestron and AMX might use WiFi, but don't typically control the device directly with it.

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AFAIK, only phones and tablets use it thus far, but I would think that if an OEM wanted to make a remote to use over wifi, that would be fairly easy to do.
It could come with a traditional IR remote, and offer a wifi remote as an add on.
...and before you say just use your smartphone, not everyone uses one, including me and 50 other people.
The thing is that not enough people would pay extra for that WiFi remote. They would rather spend that money on a smartphone, iPad, iPod Touch, etc. and then have access to apps to control lots of different devices on the single device rather than having a big pile of remotes on the coffee table. Would you rather spend $20 or more on a bunch of WiFi remotes for each of your devices (and then again each time you replace a piece of equipment) and have to juggle around a pile of remotes or spend a few hundred once and then just download a new free app each time you add or replace a piece of equipment? Personally, I would vote for the second option.
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