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Ok, thank you . Guess I should have checked my info button first. It's the same as what yours is showing so it's all good. I'm just used to glancing over to my receivers own LED display as it's close by on my left and it's displaying different(no DSD just Multi channel in) than when I had the single HDMI connected but it's just a glitch as the info button shows DSD and PCM when I change the players settings. My bad.

Not that it matters practically because I'll use the CD input for SACD's like you are but why do blu ray movies play through both outputs in Dual Display mode but SACD's only plays through output 2? It plays the SACD fine just no sound regardless of the setting( MC DSD/2 CH DSD/stereo CD.) it's in . A regular CD plays fine. No biggie I guess. Just curious. Thanks again for all of your help.
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Does the player output SACD DSD?
Yes, when SACD Output is set to DSD.

DSD output is only available over the HDMI2 port. This is a hardware restriction: the HDMI transmitter in the Qdeo video processor that drives the HDMI1 port does not support DSD audio. (NOTE: 103/105 only; the 103D/105D players do not have this restriction).

If SACD Output is set to PCM you will get audio on both HDMI1 & HDMI2.

Conversion of the DSD content played off an SACD disc to PCM -- i.e., to go to the Analog DACs as PCM, or as digital HDMI LPCM output in the 103/105 -- results in LPCM 88.2KHz 24-bit.

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Does the player output SACD DSD?
Yes, when SACD Output is set to DSD.

DSD output is only available over the HDMI2 port. This is a hardware restriction: the HDMI transmitter in the Qdeo video processor that drives the HDMI1 port does not support DSD audio. (NOTE: 103/105 only; the 103D/105D players do not have this restriction).

If SACD Output is set to PCM you will get audio on both HDMI1 & HDMI2.

Conversion of the DSD content played off an SACD disc to PCM -- i.e., to go to the Analog DACs as PCM, or as digital HDMI LPCM output in the 103/105 -- results in LPCM 88.2KHz 24-bit.
Yep, I read that. It wasn't playing in PCM or stereo not just DSD earlier I swear but I just reinserted my Cheryl Crow SACD and now when I switch over to PCM in the player in the DVD input it plays so must have been a gremlin in the works. I'm a happy camper. Thanks again for the help. Denon owners helping other Denon owners is nice to see.

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Yep, I read that. It wasn't playing in PCM or stereo not just DSD earlier I swear but I just reinserted my Cheryl Crow SACD and now when I switch over to PCM in the player in the DVD input it plays so must have been a gremlin in the works. I'm a happy camper. Thanks again for the help. Denon owners helping other Denon owners is nice to see.
If you switch the 103 to output PCM instead of DSD, then you should get audio on HDMI 1 OUT or HDMI 2 OUT.

Which Sheryl Crow were you listening to? The Globe Sessions? I like Sheryl Crow.

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@kokishin Plus, anybody who listens to the great Judy Collins is aces in my book!
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@kokishin Plus, anybody who listens to the great Judy Collins is aces in my book!
I had Colors of the Day on LP years ago. Liked it in stereo and I like it even more in surround. All my vinyl is in offsite storage since I sold off my Elac Miracord Mark II turntable years ago. I don't miss the pops/clicks and record cleaning inherent with vinyl. Total PITA!

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I had Colors of the Day on LP years ago. Liked it in stereo and I like it even more in surround. All my vinyl is in offsite storage since I sold off my Elac Miracord Mark II turntable years ago. I don't miss the pops/clicks and record cleaning inherent with vinyl. Total PITA!
I've had it on cassette and CD( still not SACD but I'm still a newbie collector.) I grew up in the 70's where vinyl was still king but I didn't start getting into music until my teens and by that time cassettes and CD's ruled in the early 80's. My parents had lots of Chuck Mangione, Henry Mancini, Frank Sinatra, Harry Belafonte , Bing Crosby, Burl Ives etc.. on vinyl growing up but that's all long gone now. I have a turntable but it's in a box in storage. I just can't see spending 30 bucks for vinyl records now sold at Bed Bath and Beyond for some strange reason. I'll stick with the OPPO. Appreciate your help again. It's nice when someone else has already done something with a similar setup to yours.

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If you switch the 103 to output PCM instead of DSD, then you should get audio on HDMI 1 OUT or HDMI 2 OUT.

Which Sheryl Crow were you listening to? The Globe Sessions? I like Sheryl Crow.
I am. Yep, Globe Sessions. I just bought it on CL from a local SACD enthusiast( nice guy.) Already had it on CD as well. I love her music and just her.

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Hi, all. I'm looking to have a custom video made to upload onto a flash drive. Will my Oppo 103D be able to play MP4 formatted video?

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It plays MP4, although technically that is just the container type. It has audio and video codec contents that also have to be supported.

You might ask for a small sample file to test this before committing time and money.

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The vast majority of .MP4 files contain AVC encoded video and AAC encoded audio streams. Provided they have been encoded using the correct profiles the OPPO will be able to play the file.


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In particular, if the "video profile" is "Level 3.1 (Main)" or lower, it should be fully compatible. Higher level video profiles are not necessarily supported in MP4 files. BDP-103 seems to support a wider variety of video profiles in .MKV and .TS containers, FYI.

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After theater water issue, I just reinstalled my equipment. For some reason, my Oppo 103 will not recognize any Blu-ray Discs, however it will play regular DVDs. It worked fine previously & didn't get wet. I have no idea if the cleanup or restoration crew accidentally hit the unit, but I have no such knowledge. Any suggestions?
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After theater water issue, I just reinstalled my equipment. For some reason, my Oppo 103 will not recognize any Blu-ray Discs, however it will play regular DVDs. It worked fine previously & didn't get wet. I have no idea if the cleanup or restoration crew accidentally hit the unit, but I have no such knowledge. Any suggestions?
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If so, how do I correct it?
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After theater water issue, I just reinstalled my equipment. For some reason, my Oppo 103 will not recognize any Blu-ray Discs, however it will play regular DVDs. It worked fine previously & didn't get wet. I have no idea if the cleanup or restoration crew accidentally hit the unit, but I have no such knowledge. Any suggestions?
You may have condensation in the player. Open the tray, unplug the player, and give it overnight to dry thoroughly.
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Thanks. I'll give it a try.
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In particular, if the "video profile" is "Level 3.1 (Main)" or lower, it should be fully compatible. Higher level video profiles are not necessarily supported in MP4 files. BDP-103 seems to support a wider variety of video profiles in .MKV and .TS containers, FYI.
Thanks, Scott. That's very helpful.
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Are you referring to the player's front panel display? If so, the answer is no. The Oppo does read metadata in audio files, so if you've done your tagging correctly you can see all that.
Song titles aren't medadata? You lost me there. How to change what it's displaying on the oppo itself, if it's even possible?


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I had a yamaha cd burner which had condensation problems. Did exactly what the op describes. It happened in really wet conditions and cleared up when I dried things up.


I'll throw another question on here too:
What is up with how the oppo reads and lists genres? I have a dozen genres on my files, exquisitely tagged with mp3tag, and the oppo somehow misreads and mashes them all into electronic/pop/rock/unknown. These are not even tags I use. It seems it could be using its own database of known music, but I'm not even online with the oppo, and I doubt it came with something built in like that (that would be bizarre). Where is it coming up with this and why can't it just be a good machine and read my tags?

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Song titles aren't medadata? You lost me there. How to change what it's displaying on the oppo itself, if it's even possible?
Regardless of what you think meta-data tagging can include. It is not possible for 'song titles' to be displayed on the OPPO's front display. Such a feature is not supported.

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Anyone experience streaming audio drops when running a FireTV (or similar) through the Oppos input? I have to run it this way as the HDMI video in my receiver seems bad (green tint to video) so using the OPPO as a video switcher. About once every 30 minutes or so I get a second of no audio. Trying to narrow this down between my Oppo and the receiver.

I suspect the Oppo because if I pause and start up again there is several seconds of no audio before it starts up again. When I use the receiver as an HDMI switcher it almost instantly comes back.
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Anyone experience streaming audio drops when running a FireTV (or similar) through the Oppos input? I have to run it this way as the HDMI video in my receiver seems bad (green tint to video) so using the OPPO as a video switcher. About once every 30 minutes or so I get a second of no audio. Trying to narrow this down between my Oppo and the receiver.

I suspect the Oppo because if I pause and start up again there is several seconds of no audio before it starts up again. When I use the receiver as an HDMI switcher it almost instantly comes back.
I have a Roku Ultra going into the input on my 103D. It performs well, just made the switch to 1Gbit speed internet service and it's wired to the Roku. I haven't seen audio drops, some audio resynching when I rewind a program.

Have you tried different cables? I do see once in a great while some green screen (momentarily) when switching programs, but figure it's just HDMI handshake anomalies. They don't stay and don't take away from the experience.

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Anyone experience streaming audio drops when running a FireTV (or similar) through the Oppos input? I have to run it this way as the HDMI video in my receiver seems bad (green tint to video) so using the OPPO as a video switcher. About once every 30 minutes or so I get a second of no audio. Trying to narrow this down between my Oppo and the receiver.

I suspect the Oppo because if I pause and start up again there is several seconds of no audio before it starts up again. When I use the receiver as an HDMI switcher it almost instantly comes back.
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The cable to the PJ runs through the ceiling, but I can plug the BD player or the FireTV into it direct and the screen looks fine, it's only when I plug the stereo into the PJ that the colors are off. I know its not the internet connection. My FireTV is hard wired and that same box came from the bedroom where it performed flawlessly for a year or 2.

If I pause a streaming movie tho and restart it theres several seconds of delay before the receiver shows its' receiing an audio signal. Didnt do this when I bypassed the Oppo.
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Anyone experience streaming audio drops when running a FireTV (or similar) through the Oppos input? I have to run it this way as the HDMI video in my receiver seems bad (green tint to video) so using the OPPO as a video switcher. About once every 30 minutes or so I get a second of no audio. Trying to narrow this down between my Oppo and the receiver.

I suspect the Oppo because if I pause and start up again there is several seconds of no audio before it starts up again. When I use the receiver as an HDMI switcher it almost instantly comes back.
Regarding your problem with video tinted Ghastly Green, see this post from my Blog:

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You may be able to work around this by setting an explicit video output format (e.g., YCbCr), or by upgrading your HDMI cables.

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Regarding your audio drop outs, are you playing music with your TV turned off when this happens? Is your TV a newer model Sony TV? If so, this is a known, Factory Installed Gotcha in those Sonys. Even though the TV is Off, it wakes up its HDMI connection every so often to see if anyone at the other end of the cable wants to come out to play. This forces an HDMI handshake, which forces a brief Muting of the audio.

The workaround is to leave the Sony TV turned ON. You can use either Pure Mode in the OPPO, or the button on the remote for these Sony's which lets you turn the Picture off even though the TV is still on.

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While you are at it, even though you are not using 4K video, I recommend you upgrade *ALL* of your HDMI cables to Premium Certified cables. I've written this up in my Blog post, here:

HDMI "Premium Certified" Cables

This will help minimize the annoyance of HDMI handshake retries -- fewer retries, and faster handshakes when they have to happen.
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Let me explain. FireTV plugs into Oppo input port. Oppo has PJ plugged into output 1 and receiver plugged into output 2 of oppo. The dropouts I get are when streaming video thru netflix or amazon video. Its not a buffering problem, the audio just disappears for about a second and comes back. Video still streaming fine. The firetv box came from my bedroom where it never had a problem so I can rule that out. I don't ever get audio dropouts when watching bluray disks. So the issue is either the input port on the oppo or my receiver.

The cables are only a few months old and are 4k compatible even tho Im not using 4k.
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Let me explain. FireTV plugs into Oppo input port. Oppo has PJ plugged into output 1 and receiver plugged into output 2 of oppo. The dropouts I get are when streaming video thru netflix or amazon video. Its not a buffering problem, the audio just disappears for about a second and comes back. Video still streaming fine. The firetv box came from my bedroom where it never had a problem so I can rule that out. I don't ever get audio dropouts when watching bluray disks. So the issue is either the input port on the oppo or my receiver.

The cables are only a few months old and are 4k compatible even tho Im not using 4k.
Is there a chance of getting a small display in that room and connecting the Oppo output directly to that panel while disconnecting from the receiver?

If there are no dropouts, then you can test that panel as your display and route the audio to the receiver.

It may point to the receiver or to the PJ not interacting well with the FireTV via the often talked about HDMI end to end protocol. It may point to getting UHD level certified cables to avoid sync issues.
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Just an update, I finally got the video switcher working on my receiver properly so I moved all inputs to that and am no longer using the Oppos input for the FireTV. Problem appears to have gone away by bypassing the Oppo. I used to have 5-6 seconds of muted audio in Netflix if I paused and resumed. Now the audio comes back almost instantly. So the issue is and was the Oppo. Maybe a setting or something? Either way, the receiver is working.
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