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I found this in your AVR manual:

Is that relevant? Seems as though you have a couple inputs that are HDMI 1.4 rated. Last suggestion is to try a new Certified Premium HDMI cable. .

My 103 is resting in my "Oppo closet" along with some others. I use a 105 in a dedicated stereo setup. 93 and 203 are in my HT setup.


I will explore this angle too, the Oppo being 1.4 and a 2014 model, I don't know if that would make a difference. My cables are all High-speed, same brand and model as the ones used on the other 5 Hdcp 2.2 inputs.

TV-Sony Bravia KD-65"A1, Pioneer SC-LX901 7.2.4 ATMOS/DTS-X, Polk DSW 660*2, Polk RTi A7*2, Pol Csi A6, Polk RtiA5*2, Polk Tsi300*2, Polk TSX 220B *2, Polk OWM 3*2, ZidooZ9s, Nvidia Shield Pro-19, Zappiti-4kHDROne, Oppo UDP-203, XboxOneX, PS4, Oppo BDP-83, Darbee DVP-5000s, ZidooX10, Sony Bravia HX925 55"
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My 103 was purchased at BB during the closeout for $149. Great price, it was their floor model as there were none left otherwise but it has a dent on the back corner. I know what that means and I tested it after purchase. For 149, I wasnt complaining.

I havent used it much for audio cd's but a few weeks ago I was playing several cd's and drop outs were happening quite a bit. No issues at all on any BD whatsoever.

Are there different laser pickups for BD and CD? I did re seat the hdmi and that appeared to lessen the issue but its still odd that BD has no issues at all so I am not really sold on the cable unless different connectors are used for CD vs BD?

Finally, if it needs to go in for repair (out of warranty) will Oppo still do a all inclusive repair for the flat rate when it has a dent? Kind of a speculative question here unless someone has insight on their repair conditions.
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^ CD and BD do indeed use different lasers. If you have a Sony TV and have it turned off while playing the CDs, test by leaving it turned on. Sony TVs are known to generate bogus HDMI handshakes while they are "off", which result in brief muting. As an alternative, leave the Sony on and use the button on its remote to black out the display.
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Interesting scenario but still using an old Pioneer Kuro. Will try with it off and on.
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My 103 was purchased at BB during the closeout for $149. Great price, it was their floor model as there were none left otherwise but it has a dent on the back corner. I know what that means and I tested it after purchase. For 149, I wasnt complaining.

I havent used it much for audio cd's but a few weeks ago I was playing several cd's and drop outs were happening quite a bit. No issues at all on any BD whatsoever.

Are there different laser pickups for BD and CD? I did re seat the hdmi and that appeared to lessen the issue but its still odd that BD has no issues at all so I am not really sold on the cable unless different connectors are used for CD vs BD?

Finally, if it needs to go in for repair (out of warranty) will Oppo still do a all inclusive repair for the flat rate when it has a dent? Kind of a speculative question here unless someone has insight on their repair conditions.
CDs, DVDs and SACD all use the red laser. Problems reading a CD generally do not result in dropouts, rather crackles and assorted noises. But anything is possible. Given the history of life in a store, a good cleaning of the lasers is your best first step.
Oppo has never denied repair service to anyone for any reason. Your flat rate should be around $100. Just don't expect them to fix the dent, body work is outside their purview. .
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CDs, DVDs and SACD all use the red laser. Problems reading a CD generally do not result in dropouts, rather crackles and assorted noises. But anything is possible. Given the history of life in a store, a good cleaning of the lasers is your best first step.
Oppo has never denied repair service to anyone for any reason. Your flat rate should be around $100. Just don't expect them to fix the dent, body work is outside their purview. .
I was able to clean my 83 years ago, this should be very similar and will give that a try. For the heck of it may change the cable as well-its a BJC but is at least 10 years old.
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I know this is old, but I'm going to bump it as it's relevant to what I've been going through.



First off here's my electronics gear list:
Oppo 103 (preamp) --> (2) Rane DSPs --> (5) Crown DriveCore XLS Amplifiers & (2) JL Audio E112s

Speakers are obviously after the Crowns.


I e-mailed Oppo some months back asking about potential noise issues when using the 103 as the sole pre-amp. This is the exchange:


So, Oppo basically told me, "yes, you should expect noise". They didn't specifically say 'hiss' and they focused on the 'hum' (two things which are NOT the same; I'm not new to audio ). Understanding the warning, I figured I'd give it a shot anyway.

I've had the setup mentioned above for about 4 months now. After having some time to really live with the system, I've realized that, indeed, the noise floor of the Oppo is a problem if you expect to use it as a permanent pre-amp solution. Keep in mind I have (2) Rane DSP's that drive the inputs of my Crowns and even with the ridiculous output voltage capability of the Ranes and the superb A/D/A conversion within, it simply cannot make up for the Oppo's faults when used as the sole pre-amp.

Before people jump the gun on my post understand this:
Oppo stated I'd need to use a dedicated pre-amp; so I'm not bashing the company or product at all!

What I am saying is if you're going to be hardheaded like I was, don't expect much different than the results I had. I got it to work as a pre-amp, sure, but I'm fighting the noise vs volume tradeoff; and upping the output voltage via the software only induces clipping (audible clipping, I might add). I've decided I'm going to have to plunk down the cash for a dedicated pre/pro, unfortunately. I'm hoping something like the Emo UMC-200 will suffice.

This is just some real-world use from my experience. Hopefully it helps someone who was in the quandary I was a few months back.

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I'm brand new to trying analog outputs. I've set up a dedicated listening room and I thought it would be better to use my OPPO's analog outputs, straight in to an amp, rather than an AVR.

When music is blasting, my OPPO BDP-103 straight in to my Emotiva A-800 sounds wonderful. Whenever the music is fairly quiet though, there is a lot of hiss.
I am shopping around for an OPPO BDP-105 I can afford (and/or waiting to build up the cash). Meanwhile, as an alternative, can anyone recommend a preamp that would do the trick?
This is a 5.1 system, so I need a preamp that can handle 5 channels (the sub output can go straight to the sub, no?).

Thanks for any advice.
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Hi everyone, I have backed up my SACD's to a Seagate USB drive with the hopes of being able to plug it into the Oppo directly and play my music without having to change discs all the time. When I plug the USB drive into the Oppo it does see it however does not show any of the folders that are in there. I do have the disc partitioned for 2CH and MCH and wondering if this would cause an issue or is there a particular way to format ands setup up the drive? I read through the manual and not a lot of information in there that helps me.

My setup is also Mac is that makes a difference.

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Hi everyone, I have backed up my SACD's to a Seagate USB drive with the hopes of being able to plug it into the Oppo directly and play my music without having to change discs all the time. When I plug the USB drive into the Oppo it does see it however does not show any of the folders that are in there. I do have the disc partitioned for 2CH and MCH and wondering if this would cause an issue or is there a particular way to format ands setup up the drive? I read through the manual and not a lot of information in there that helps me.

My setup is also Mac is that makes a difference.

thank you for any assistance on this!
See this section of the FAQ, particularly file systems and partition tables: Media Files.

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See this section of the FAQ, particularly file systems and partition tables: Media Files.

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Thank you Bill, I am still unable to get the thing to work. I did download JRiver and am able to use that to connect to the Oppo and stream the music over LAN, although it is not consistent and seems to cut out ever so often. I will keep playing around or just go back to putting in the physical discs

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...When I plug the USB drive into the Oppo it does see it however does not show any of the folders that are in there. I do have the disc partitioned for 2CH and MCH and wondering if this would cause an issue or is there a particular way to format ands setup up the drive?
What 'file system' have you formatted the HDD's partitions in?

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What 'file system' have you formatted the HDD's partitions in?
Hi, the disk is partitioned with GUID Partition Map and each partition is in Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

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Hi, the disk is partitioned with GUID Partition Map and each partition is in Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

It says in the FAQ that someone mentioned to you earlier what file systems are supported. Mac isn't one of them.


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It says in the FAQ that someone mentioned to you earlier what file systems are supported. Mac isn't one of them.


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exFAT formatted HDD's work well with Mac and Windows 10 computers. And the OPPOs.


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Thank you, that is exactly what I have done now and copying the files over!

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A quick thank you to everyone for your help! The ExFAT format partitions worked and the Oppo now sees all the files.

Everything is working flawlessly now and am enjoying a little Bryan Ferry this morning!!

Thank you!!
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Remote control problem

The arrow keys on my Oppo 103 have started to function erratically. For example, at bootup to the home screen, "CD" is highlighted as usual. If I arrow right, the cursor runs quickly down to the end of the row and then repeatedly runs down the row at high speed. Similarly, if I'm looking at a list of folders on my attached USB drive, the down arrow skips a bunch of folders after a single press on the key.

The problem isn't in the Oppo remote because the same behavior occurs with my Harmony One remote and also when using the remote in the Oppo Media Control iPhone app. The appearance off the problem using the iPhone app also rules out the 103's infrared receiver as the source of the problem.

Any suggestions? There is nothing in the vicinity that could be giving off infrared light to confuse the 103's receiver.

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Remote control problem

The arrow keys on my Oppo 103 have started to function erratically. For example, at bootup to the home screen, "CD" is highlighted as usual. If I arrow right, the cursor runs quickly down to the end of the row and then repeatedly runs down the row at high speed. Similarly, if I'm looking at a list of folders on my attached USB drive, the down arrow skips a bunch of folders after a single press on the key.

The problem isn't in the Oppo remote because the same behavior occurs with my Harmony One remote and also when using the remote in the Oppo Media Control iPhone app. The appearance off the problem using the iPhone app also rules out the 103's infrared receiver as the source of the problem.

Any suggestions? There is nothing in the vicinity that could be giving off infrared light to confuse the 103's receiver.
Contact Oppo support for assistance. https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx?CatID=1
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Contact Oppo support for assistance. https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx?CatID=1

I'll do that; I was wondering if there was anything else to try first, or if anyone else has had this problem.

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Thanks, Jeff, but I tried that and the problem remains. I also left the 103 unplugged overnight, but that made no difference either.

So unless Oppo responds with some other procedure I can try, my choices are to return the player to Oppo for service or replace it with something else. But so far, I haven't found a reasonably priced player that will handle Blu-Ray, DVD, SACD, and CD while also being able to play multichannel audio files from a USB drive or stream them from my home PC. I've found Sony and Yamaha BluRay players that will do all of this except play multichannel files. Any suggestions?

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Thanks, Jeff, but I tried that and the problem remains. I also left the 103 unplugged overnight, but that made no difference either.

So unless Oppo responds with some other procedure I can try, my choices are to return the player to Oppo for service or replace it with something else. But so far, I haven't found a reasonably priced player that will handle Blu-Ray, DVD, SACD, and CD while also being able to play multichannel audio files from a USB drive or stream them from my home PC. I've found Sony and Yamaha BluRay players that will do all of this except play multichannel files. Any suggestions?
Oppo service which, thankfully (and amazingly) still exists. If they ever decided to resume optical disc players they could probably do it and easily “repick up” their customer base.
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Thanks, Jeff, but I tried that and the problem remains. I also left the 103 unplugged overnight, but that made no difference either.

So unless Oppo responds with some other procedure I can try, my choices are to return the player to Oppo for service or replace it with something else.
The 103 can rip SACD discs, and thus is ALWAYS worth repairing. Its probably worth a couple hundred even if its not functional.
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The 103 can rip SACD discs, and thus is ALWAYS worth repairing. Its probably worth a couple hundred even if its not functional.
Check out this unbelievable customer service: Oppo responded by email that the problem is usually a "simple fix," and they will make an exception by not charging me the flat repair fee or for return shipping! That's a couple hundred $$ saved at a minimum.
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