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post #1141 of 2125 Old 12-25-2014, 07:51 PM
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Just got a 105D for Christmas. I have it hooked up to a 65 inch Panasonic plasma through a Marantz SR7007 receiver. I've double checked my connection (HDMI 1) and I'm not sure if it's me but I'm not seeing much in the way of the Darbee processing. It doesn't look much different to me. Also, this may be a dumb question, but if I have both an HDMI cable and analog stereo cables hooked up, does it default to the HDMI only? I'm kind of confused about the hook up instructions regarding that. I'll keep going through the instructions but I'd appreciate help.
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Regarding Darbee on your plasma. I have a Panny 65VT50 hooked up to my 105D and I do see a noticeable difference (for the better). You might want to use the split screen or scrolling demo mode on paused content. For reference, I'm using 40% effect on the HD mode. My VT50 has been professionaly calibrated.

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Thanks! That helped. Yeah, I see a difference but I am being somewhat conservative at this point. I have the Darbee set on HD at maybe 60 on it's scale. Oh, and WOW this player sounds sweet! Makes my B&Ws sound even cleaner. I'm sure once it breaks in it will sound even better. Other than my Pono player, this is my first real exposure to upgraded DACs etc. The value of this player for the money is incredible. Since you obviously have the equipment to hear the nuance between inputs, do you prefer analog or HDMI for music?

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do you prefer analog or HDMI for music?
Remember that if you use HDMI for music, you are totally bypassing the 105's DACs (in which case you should have bought the 103!).
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Just got a 105D for Christmas. I have it hooked up to a 65 inch Panasonic plasma through a Marantz SR7007 receiver. I've double checked my connection (HDMI 1) and I'm not sure if it's me but I'm not seeing much in the way of the Darbee processing. It doesn't look much different to me. Also, this may be a dumb question, but if I have both an HDMI cable and analog stereo cables hooked up, does it default to the HDMI only? I'm kind of confused about the hook up instructions regarding that. I'll keep going through the instructions but I'd appreciate help.
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To use Darbee, do not use Source Direct as your video Resolution. (And make sure you are using the HDMI 1 output, which you say you have done.)

Go into the Darbee settings and enable one of the two Darbee Demo modes (e.g., Split Screen). The black divider line should be visible on the screen. That shows you Darbee is functioning. Now set a ridiculously high Darbee processing value, such as 100. The portion of the screen to the left of the divider line is the processed portion. You should be able to see the difference easily. Reduce the Darbee value down to a more normal level, such as 35, for normal viewing, and get rid of the demo mode once you've gotten used to how Darbee looks.

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Thanks! That helped. Yeah, I see a difference but I am being somewhat conservative at this point. I have the Darbee set on HD at maybe 60 on it's scale. Oh, and WOW this player sounds sweet! Makes my B&Ws sound even cleaner. I'm sure once it breaks in it will sound even better. Other than my Pono player, this is my first real exposure to upgraded DACs etc. The value of this player for the money is incredible. Since you obviously have the equipment to hear the nuance between inputs, do you prefer analog or HDMI for music?
I definitely prefer the analog XLR outputs for stereo listening. I recently added a pc-based media server and Bryston BDA-2 DAC. For CD listening, the server/DAC combo is my new favorite (no Oppo at all), but I still use the Oppo for SACD listening and of course 5.1 material. I've been told some day I will stop using the Oppo all-together, but personally I believe it will alway have a place in my system. It is a fantastic universal player for the price.

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So where do we think the bugs are coming from in the Android Media Control app? Every two or three shows I watch it crashes the player making it unresponsive to even the remote control. When listening to music yesterday the media control app (3.02.892) and the volume control locked up. Poor slider for advancing in a video too.

Plus....OMG....who designed this remote??!?! Volume buttons at the top, and so tiny?

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^LOL, I don't think I have ever heard anyone complain about the location on the volume buttons.
With remote in hand, it's easy and natural to just hit them with your thumb.
However, accidentally hitting the Vudu/Netflix buttons by mistake can be very annoying.
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As I'm now living outside the dying empire Netflix/Vudu are useless for me so I'll be really bummed if that becomes an issue, but I disagree...I've got fairly large hands, yet where the remote sits naturally balanced, with an index finger in the groove on the back, my thumb only makes it up to the "page" button comfortably. I think this is where the volume control should be...it's where the two key buttons, volume and channel fall on the Panasonic remote for instance.

Aside from that I am slowly working my way through the manual, but I'm trying to get both sets of speakers working the way I'd like them to. Right now all seven of my speakers are working. The Katans on the 2ch RCA, the Vizio on the optical out. I'm watching a 5.1 file and all seven speakers are working, with the Vizio only responding to its own remote's volume commands(optical out set to bitstream), and the Katans responding to the Oppo volume control. I'm happy with this seven speaker attack, but I don't want the Vizio chiming in during music playback. How can I easily change between audio outputs (RCA/optical)?
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There is no way to turn off just the Analog or just the Optical audio outputs. You'll have to Mute audio in the Vizio.
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^^ Well I must have gigantic hands since I can easily reach the top buttons on the remote with index finder nestled in the notch on the bottom.
The power button is a bit of a stretch, but I can still reach it.
I think maybe you just need some time to get used to it. Of course not every item is ideal for everyone.
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^ Funny how we all use different fingers for remote buttons. On the Oppo remote, I use my index finger for any buttons above the up arrow.
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No comments on random crashing of the media control app, and the player itself under Android?

Has there ever been any talk of opening up the api's for developers, or even open sourcing bits and pieces of the control system like Linn did with Kinsky? I know all the codecs and player software have to remain closed. It I'll bet there are getting to be as many Oppos as there are Linn DSes in the world.

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^ Funny how we all use different fingers for remote buttons. On the Oppo remote, I use my index finger for any buttons above the up arrow.
I probably use my index finger more that way too, but going from the previous comment about using the thumb,
I tried it that way and it was ok. It's even easier with the index finger actually.
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Hey, here's one I haven't seen mentioned here I don't think. Is there a limit to the number of characters in the file name over which the player will not recognise or play the file? I just tried to play the Top Gear Patagonia trip and the media control app couldn't find the file when in the synology icon'd "master", but could see it in the "network (green in pic)", but not play it. I edited the file name to just Top Gear, and it played fine.
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^ I've not heard of a limit. How long was the name that did not work? Any special characters in it?
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I trimmed it to Top Gear Specia.mkv and it played...I rebooted everything in the chain twice before renaming

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Wow I'm really bummed out about how many times this thing crashes. The player locks up pretty much pretty much every show! Is everyone experiencing this?

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@ smarty-pants and other user of chain Oppo 105D+Emotiva XPA-2, 3, 5, etc.
Hello,
my name is Anton, living in Vienna/Austria,
I award OPPO 105D before 3 months, using it with my old philips integ-amp serie 910-analog 100%,
still fighting with some oppo 105d issues: eg app which is very weak and terible, but...
I saw that some of you are using emotiva XPA-3/2/5 as endpower amp with oppo 105D,
I can remember from previous post, you mentioned to use it direct form oppo 105d as preamp to xpa-3,
pls can you give me some update in this matter:
XLR or RCA (cable?)
How do you control volume (IR OPPO or some attuenuator, preamp?), I am missing physical volume knobe for it
do you have any issue/problems with input impedance of xpa 33 bal/22,5 unbal. kohm with recomendation of oppo for 47 kohm
did you solve triggering form oppo to xpa-3 and how
do you use subw. and how will it be connected in chain

I thinking about ordering of xpa-5 for stereo per xlr and latter on for 5.1 surround,
using oppo mostly for music, hi-res since summer,

as front speakers I think about nubert nuVero 11 next year, back speakers still not in my target
pls for some impression and technical information in this matter,
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Wow I'm really bummed out about how many times this thing crashes. The player locks up pretty much pretty much every show! Is everyone experiencing this?
Nope. This is when playing your MKV files? One common solution is to re-mux the files using an up to date version of the appropriate tool.
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Top Gear 2014 Special Patagonia Part One HDTV x264-FoV.mkv

I trimmed it to Top Gear Specia.mkv and it played...I rebooted everything in the chain twice before renaming
That file name length should have not been a problem.

If you could, please email OPPO Tech Support with the complete file path that ends in that name which failed. I.e., whatever your equivalent is of:

"c:\Users\UserName\My Documents\Television Shows\Top Gear\2014\Top Gear 2014 Special Patagonia Part One HDTV x264-FoV.mkv"

And explain what happened before and after you trimmed the file name.

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http://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx

Email contact will typically reach them even on evenings, weekends and holidays, i.e., even when the phone lines are closed.

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Hey everyone new 105d owner (still in the box though) and I've tried to search and read as much of this thread as possible.

It seems like in the longterm my past choice to use iTunes isn't the best moving forward. If I am understanding things correct the Apple Lossless Codec cannot be read by the 105d, and FLAC can't be read by iTunes. So even if I move my iTunes catalog over to my Synology NAS and share via DLNA or SMB the 105d won't be able to read the Apple lossless format. To further complicate things it looks like my iTunes match doesn't even download Apple lossless but instead a 256bit file? I guess I'm left a little confused as to how to move forward.

So my question: I have an iMac, Macbook Pro, iPhone, and even in iPad I don't use much. I also have a Synology NAS that I was thinking about selling, but now it looks perhaps it could be an asset with the 105d. Of all of these components:

1. Is there an "ideal" configuration you would recommend to start moving more in the direction of quality audio sources? I'm not married to any of these devices, but if one of them would be a good direction for longterm foundation that's where I want to start building & researching.

2. Should I stop using iTunes (especially iTunes Match?). I believe the answer to this is yes due to A) quality and B) compatibility/flexibility.

Extra credit question: I am thinking I will switch to Tidal for streaming. Will quality reduce over Airplay to Apple TV connected to the 105d? Should I plug the macbook into USB instead?

Thanks for any advice. I did my best to search, but every similar question was always answered with "please ask in dedicated thread" and I'm just not finding answers reading and attempting to search these massive dedicated threads.
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If I am understanding things correct the Apple Lossless Codec cannot be read by the 105d
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Wow I'm really bummed out about how many times this thing crashes. The player locks up pretty much pretty much every show! Is everyone experiencing this?
I was hoping that the newest version of MC would have solved the crashing/freezing problems that have plagued the previous versions.
Does Oppo do their own software development for MC or do they hire consultants for that? Either way, it has been a big learning curve
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The Media Control app for iOS has been working fine for me. Maybe the Android ver, as Weyka has, is still having problems. The latest MC ver for iOS is 100% better than the prior version.
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Hey everyone new 105d owner (still in the box though) and I've tried to search and read as much of this thread as possible.

1. Is there an "ideal" configuration you would recommend to start moving more in the direction of quality audio sources? I'm not married to any of these devices, but if one of them would be a good direction for longterm foundation that's where I want to start building & researching.

2. Should I stop using iTunes (especially iTunes Match?). I believe the answer to this is yes due to A) quality and B) compatibility/flexibility.

Extra credit question: I am thinking I will switch to Tidal for streaming. Will quality reduce over Airplay to Apple TV connected to the 105d? Should I plug the macbook into USB instead?

Thanks for any advice. I did my best to search, but every similar question was always answered with "please ask in dedicated thread" and I'm just not finding answers reading and attempting to search these massive dedicated threads.
1. Your Macbook Pro can connect via USB to the Oppo's DAC input. Then anything the Mac plays can be handled by the Oppo. In this case, I would strongly recommend using JRiver's Media Canter app. It can play anything you can throw at it, and will handle the required resolution changes if you have any high-res music in there (including stereo DSD files). It may not be convenient to have the Macbook close to the Oppo though. In this case, JRiver functions as a DLNA server too, and their own very good iOS app, or Oppo's, can handle the streaming aspects. Or you could run something like Serviio on the Mac as a DLNA server. Alternatively, keep the Synology. Use that to house all your music, then you can use its DLNA server to stream music or use SMB sharing from the Oppo and use the Oppo iOS app if you don't want to turn your TV on. Handles Apple Lossless fine. However, you don't get gapless playback using DLNA or SMB sharing of Apple Lossless. If you convert all your music to FLAC and use SMB sharing, you can use Oppo's iOS app to get gapless. You tap and hold on a track and pick the gapless option to start playback. Can't do that using the Oppo player directly though, only through the app. XLD is an excellent product for converting lossless formats, by the way. Personally, I've gone the Synology route with Apple Lossless, but might consider converting to FLAC for gapless. I also run iTunes on a Mac Mini Server, which picks up its files from the Synology.

2. As I understand it, Match will only download the lower-res copies if you don't have the original on your library. So it's not that bad. If you use your Apple TV to browse to iTunes to play music or movies (using the Apple TV interface), I believe you pretty much have to stick with iTunes anyway. It uses home sharing, which nothing else, including Synology, is able to support.

Extra credit: streaming anything to Apple TV (or Airport Express) converts to 44kHz, so it's a no-no for anything high-res. In addition, the Apple TV converts audio to 48kHz on output across HDMI, so is even worse. Much better to use USB if you can.

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@ smarty-pants and other user of chain Oppo 105D+Emotiva XPA-2, 3, 5, etc.
Hello,
my name is Anton, living in Vienna/Austria,
I award OPPO 105D before 3 months, using it with my old philips integ-amp serie 910-analog 100%,
still fighting with some oppo 105d issues: eg app which is very weak and terible, but...
I saw that some of you are using emotiva XPA-3/2/5 as endpower amp with oppo 105D,
I can remember from previous post, you mentioned to use it direct form oppo 105d as preamp to xpa-3,
pls can you give me some update in this matter:
XLR or RCA (cable?)
How do you control volume (IR OPPO or some attuenuator, preamp?), I am missing physical volume knobe for it
do you have any issue/problems with input impedance of xpa 33 bal/22,5 unbal. kohm with recomendation of oppo for 47 kohm
did you solve triggering form oppo to xpa-3 and how
do you use subw. and how will it be connected in chain

I thinking about ordering of xpa-5 for stereo per xlr and latter on for 5.1 surround,
using oppo mostly for music, hi-res since summer,

as front speakers I think about nubert nuVero 11 next year, back speakers still not in my target
pls for some impression and technical information in this matter,
Merry Christmas and Happy New 2015
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Make sure you are using the latest version of the MC app.
To be sure, you might want to delete the current app you have and re-install the latest version.

I am using and XPA-3 with the BDP-105D for my 3 front channels of sound.
I use the XLR output for the RIGHT and LEFT channels, and of course RCA for the CENTER channel.
I really can not tell any difference in sound quality between the XLR and RCA though, but I use the XLR anyway.
The Emotiva amp is a great match for the Oppo, and I use the volume control on the player. It works well with my JBL speakers.

I also use a custom cable to trigger the Emotiva amp, but going from one of the USB outputs of the player,
to the 12v trigger input of the Emotiva amp. It works quite well, but please be very cautious and do not attempt
to wire this configuration if you aren't experienced with such things.
You can easily damage/break the player and amp by wiring it the wrong way.

The XPA-5 should also be a very good match for the Oppo players when routing the audio directly to amps.
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The Media Control app for iOS has been working fine for me.
Yes, I confir, that with iDevices all very OK. (of course, could be a couple of things to complain about, but very broadly OK)

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I've got a problem I wonder if y'all could help me with. When playing Pure Audio Blu-Rays, my A/V Receiver (Sony DA5500ES) reads and plays PCM and Dolby TrueHD 24-bit/96Khz signals, no problem. But when the Oppo is sending the DTS-HD Master Audio, it cuts in and out, and then gives up entirely.


I find this...weird. There are no problems with standard Blu-Rays that have audio in DTS-HDma.


Any thoughts?
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Extra credit: streaming anything to Apple TV (or Airport Express) converts to 44kHz, so it's a no-no for anything high-res. In addition, the Apple TV converts audio to 48kHz on output across HDMI, so is even worse. Much better to use USB if you can.

Hope this helps rather then confuses!
Thanks for the great reply! I got the Synology running and it works great - I think I am going to run with this for now.

What about Tidal with Apple TV? Since Tidal is 44kHz is the reconvert to 48kHz across HDMI that detrimental?
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