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post #3571 of 4063 Old 02-28-2016, 07:03 AM
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First time I saw Best Buy advertising the Samsung 4K player. Guess it is getting a little mainstream. Unfortunately, not in my local store but you can order one on-line. I got my from Best Buy on-line. Now if we can get more 4K BluRays with top quality (4K source through 4K disc, with no resolution downgrading) I will really get excited.

I am glad to see our local Best Buy store in Albuquerque having a dedicated area for 4K discs in the store (next to the regular BluRay discs) and hopefully they will be quick to stock the new releases.
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I ordered one online but checked the local store and they had one left so I grabbed it. Now I am heading to the other store that had more movies available. The player that I ordered online can't be cancelled yet as it is being prepped for shipping already so I'll just return it to the store.
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Thank you for providing the details. As I am replacing my Oppo wanted to make sure the files I have can be played by this player.

Also, I have a follow up question. I have Marantz AV8802A and will be getting this player. Now my projector is JVC 4810 which is a 1080p projector. I read somewhere that the UHD content in some cases will be downgraded and in some cases it may be unplayable as that is controlled by the studio releasing the content. Is there any verification done at least on the first part of playing UHD content and able to view it using a 1080p in the chain?

Thank you for your time.
It shows that the projector has HDMI 1.4a ports. I cannot state that this will work on all UHD discs going forward. Much depends on the AACS flags placed on the disc.

You may want to search for the HDFury and see if it can trick this HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2 UHD player into believing you're plugging it into a compatible device. Though... you may end up having bandwidth issues due to the lower grade HDMI port on the projector.

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Amazon has shipped my unit. Will be here Tuesday.

So what's been the consensus on settings? My TV is the JS8500

Player Settings
DC - Off
BD Wise - Off
Resolution - 2160
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UHD Color - On
Color Space - Native

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Read to use USER in picture mode too. Also some are turning on dynamic contrast to medium. I haven't tried that yet.
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Read to use USER in picture mode too. Also some are turning on dynamic contrast to medium. I haven't tried that yet.

I am finding setting the picture mode in the player to dynamic helps bring out the colors better. Though it is probably not technically correct.
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I am finding setting the picture mode in the player to dynamic helps bring out the colors better. Though it is probably not technically correct.

Same here. It bumps up contrast and color. U can tone it down on the user setting by putting contrast at +2 or 3, dynamic is probably in the 5-7 range. I'm liking it at 5 myself.

Seems to me that having more information on the disc allows you to play more with the settings whereas with a regular bd playing with settings hurts the picture much faster.

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Same here. It bumps up contrast and color. U can tone it down on the user setting by putting contrast at +2 or 3, dynamic is probably in the 5-7 range. I'm liking it at 5 myself.



Seems to me that having more information on the disc allows you to play more with the settings whereas with a regular bd playing with settings hurts the picture much faster.

Have you adjusted any of the other settings in the user picture mode? Any comments on them?

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It shows that the projector has HDMI 1.4a ports. I cannot state that this will work on all UHD discs going forward. Much depends on the AACS flags placed on the disc.

You may want to search for the HDFury and see if it can trick this HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2 UHD player into believing you're plugging it into a compatible device. Though... you may end up having bandwidth issues due to the lower grade HDMI port on the projector.
Thank you for the reply. I guess until I change the projector to a 4k unit, as long as normal "red box" blu-rays work I should be good. Let us see.
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Have you adjusted any of the other settings in the user picture mode? Any comments on them?
I bumped up color a couple notches.

My mind keeps wandering and fantasizing about what an oppo with darbee would do with these discs

I think darbee would help out the 2k discs. Overall though I'm pleased with the upgrade over blu ray with both.
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Alright guys what am I missing here. I see no difference between the 4k and the regular blu ray. I have a sony 900a with a oppo 103d and the new samsung 4k player. The first set of pictures is 1080 and the second is 4k. To me theres a little bit more detail in the 1080p set. Look at the squares of the solar panels. Do you guys have any suggestions?
That tv is not capable of playing 4K UHD movie because it doesn't have HDPC 2.2. I believe the next model 900b has it.
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That tv is not capable of playing 4K UHD movie because it doesn't have HDPC 2.2. I believe the next model 900b has it.
Wrong, I have also have a Sony xbr 900a and there is one port that supports hdcp 2.2
I also have a lg 79inch UB9800 uhd 4k

That being said I've watched the maze runner scorch trails on the Samsung 4k player, and not much difference between that and the blue-ray
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Wrong, I have also have a Sony xbr 900a and there is one port that supports hdcp 2.2

I also have a lg 79inch UB9800 uhd 4k



That being said I've watched the maze runner scorch trails on the Samsung 4k player, and not much difference between that and the blue-ray

You probably aren't watching HDR right? That's the biggest benefit IMO.

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For those near the Best Buy in west nyack ny, as of yesterday afternoon their inventory system showed two in stock there. I was able to buy the last one in one Paramus NJ store, and put a hold on a second unit for a fellow member at the other Paramus store, so we each got one yesterday and didn't have to take the drive up to the palisades mall...
Thanks for the info, I picked one up in the East Hanover store. So far the picture is great with my 65JS8500.

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Since there is very little info floating around on my particular Sharp TV, I have asked this question in a couple threads in hopes of getting a more defined answer even though Sharp Support has vaguely answered.

My K8500 won't be delivered until Tues. Mar. 1 and ahead if that i'm trying to learn as much about it as I can. I will be running it straight to a Sharp LC-60UE30 4K with no HDR. Even without this, I elected to get the 8500 anyway and possibly an HDR capable TV later. Here's my question.............

All four inputs on the Sharp are 2.0/2.2 and I believe it is a 10-bit panel without HDR. On these four inputs there is a setting for "FULL" or "LIMITED". The owners manual states: Set to "FULL" when an HDMI 4K 60p 4:4:4 device is connected and "LIMITED" when an HDMI 4K 24p 4:2:0 device is connected. To further clarify this, I contacted Sharp and they said to always use "FULL" for the best 4K experience. What setting do any of you guys suggest I use on the port that I connect the K8500 to, Full or Limited?

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Time to throw a big wrench in everyone's viewing experience. 

We've discovered that turning RBG enhanced on the player makes a big impact on picture quality! 

Still experimenting, but so far:

Brighter 
More vibrant colors
Less black crush 

For those with bad black crush, this setting opened up my hdmi black level setting on mt tv, which if adjusted can fix crush.
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Time to throw a big wrench in everyone's viewing experience. 

We've discovered that turning RBG enhanced on the player makes a big impact on picture quality! 

Still experimenting, but so far:

Brighter 
More vibrant colors
Less black crush 

For those with bad black crush, this setting opened up my hdmi black level setting on mt tv, which if adjusted can fix crush.
Will check that out! I almost set-up a date today for my calibration of my JS8500 but I'm currently enjoying experimenting with all these options!

I assume UHD Color Off? Correct?
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Will check that out! I almost set-up a date today for my calibration of my JS8500 but I'm currently enjoying experimenting with all these options!



I assume UHD Color Off? Correct?

I use UHD color on and auto color on the player with the same result as setting the player to rgb enhanced and UHD color off.

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I use UHD color on and auto color on the player with the same result as setting the player to rgb enhanced and UHD color off.
The Difference is that with uhd color off, turning on RBG enhanced causes highlight blowout, so it's not the same.
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Time to throw a big wrench in everyone's viewing experience. 

We've discovered that turning RBG enhanced on the player makes a big impact on picture quality! 

Still experimenting, but so far:

Brighter 
More vibrant colors
Less black crush 

For those with bad black crush, this setting opened up my hdmi black level setting on mt tv, which if adjusted can fix crush.
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The Difference is that with uhd color off, turning on RBG enhanced causes highlight blowout, so it's not the same.
Ray, ray, ray... you are only going to confuse people even more. It's spelled RGB, lol.
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I use UHD color on and auto color on the player with the same result as setting the player to rgb enhanced and UHD color off.
Try RGB Enhanced with UHD Color On. I'm preferring that at the moment.
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From reading all the Samsung comments, I really am glad I bought the Sony. I leave the K8500 at default, pop in a disc and watch.
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Try RGB Enhanced with UHD Color On. I'm preferring that at the moment.

It's the same to my eyes once you set the correct HDMI black level for it. Auto defaults to low which crushes the blacks for me.

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I am finding setting the picture mode in the player to dynamic helps bring out the colors better. Though it is probably not technically correct.
Ive been using it like that looks better to me

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So is it time for a K8500 calibration thread?
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So is it time for a K8500 calibration thread?
I think it's just a matter of finding what combination removes the black crush so many people have been seeing.

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Dear k8500 users, 1) is the player in 110v voltage and 2) it is provided with IEC inlet or figure 8 inlet? Will be good if anyone of you can post picture of the power inlet. Thanks!


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Both of these could be answered from very simple search here in this thread or in case of question 2 googling it. Given it's 110v as we know, what benefit does knowing it's got a figure 8 power cable make seeing as that there's one type of 110v plug??

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Both of these could be answered from very simple search here in this thread or in case of #2 googling it. Given it's110v as we know, what benefit does knowing it's got a figure 8 power cable make seeing as that there's one type of 110v plug??
I'm based in Singapore, wants to import this player back to my country, which is in 230/240v. Anyway I found my answers elsewhere.
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Alright guys what am I missing here. I see no difference between the 4k and the regular blu ray. I have a sony 900a with a oppo 103d and the new samsung 4k player. The first set of pictures is 1080 and the second is 4k. To me theres a little bit more detail in the 1080p set. Look at the squares of the solar panels. Do you guys have any suggestions?
It's kinda difficult to discern the difference when the Jpeg's you're showing us is max resolution of 1200 x 1200 pixels
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I'm based in Singapore, wants to import this player back to my country, which is in 230/240v. Anyway I found my answers elsewhere.
Yep and same applies for guys like me based in Australia and waiting on my order from B&H. Still a moot point knowing the power connector is figure 8 when we know its 110v, unless you enjoy blowing up equipment on 230v - I'd call it a 'cart before the horse' kinda question that as know didn't need to asked again !
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Yep and same applies for guys like me based in Australia and waiting on my order from B&H. Still a moot point knowing the power connector is figure 8 when we know its 110v, unless you enjoy blowing up equipment on 230v - I'd call it a 'cart before the horse' kinda question that as know didn't need to asked again !
Well, this dude has proved it otherwise. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-bl...l#post41975745
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