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Ha-ha! But...I never sell anything. The UB900 would back-up the UB820 just like my Sony BDP-S1000ES backs-up my S5000ES. Not to mention all the HD-DVD players I still have in boxes.


It's a sickness.
it is not worth selling UB900, the amount of money one will get for used electronics is not much, very rarely some one pays reasonable for high end stuff. i have Toshiba HDA1, Pioneer BDP-51 FD and Oppo BDP-93, they all work great still, just took HD A1 out due to space, all of them excellent CD player worse case.

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it is not worth selling UB900, the amount of money one will get for used electronics is not much, very rarely some one pays reasonable for high end stuff. i have Toshiba HDA1, Pioneer BDP-51 FD and Oppo BDP-93, they all work great still, just took HD A1 out due to space, all of them excellent CD player worse case.
Everything sells for less than you bought it for and there’s no point in hoarding a bunch of unneeded electronics. A UB900 is worth $250 net after fees and shipping on eBay, more elsewhere. That’s halfway to a UB820. I’ll take a 50% discount on new gear if it means getting rid of the gear I’m replacing it with.
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it is not worth selling UB900, the amount of money one will get for used electronics is not much, very rarely some one pays reasonable for high end stuff. i have Toshiba HDA1, Pioneer BDP-51 FD and Oppo BDP-93, they all work great still, just took HD A1 out due to space, all of them excellent CD player worse case.
I burned a BD and it played with color artifacts and subtitle synchronization problems on old Samsung player but played flawlessly on the UB900.


I really have no need to upgrade.

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I have had it packed away for a few months since I purchased a Oppo 203. I did purchase the ub420 recently (as a secondary player) for its tone mapping feature but found out that with a HD fury vertex which I already own, I could setup sdr2020 and use the UB900 which is a more premium player. I updated firmware then I played a 4k copy of hell fest, totally froze on the movies menu. Had to pull out the power cable and the second time pushed play movie and screen went blank, player display reading please wait! And totally unresponsive again, had to pull the power plug again and third time lucky it started
Similar to posts from me and others, after the 1.80 FW update. Eventually, my 900 stopped reading 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray discs. Panasonic support told me it was a hardware issue (no parts available of course), and were non-committal about further FW updates for this model.


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it is not worth selling UB900, the amount of money one will get for used electronics is not much, very rarely some one pays reasonable for high end stuff. i have Toshiba HDA1, Pioneer BDP-51 FD and Oppo BDP-93, they all work great still, just took HD A1 out due to space, all of them excellent CD player worse case.
You're right. After various failures, many player owners are making do through workarounds or doubling up on machines. For instance, one will still play something, and another will still do something else.

Just another story from the largely farcical electronics industry.

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Everything sells for less than you bought it for and there’s no point in hoarding a bunch of unneeded electronics. A UB900 is worth $250 net after fees and shipping on eBay, more elsewhere. That’s halfway to a UB820. I’ll take a 50% discount on new gear if it means getting rid of the gear I’m replacing it with.
maybe $250 is reasonable if purchase price is $500, but UB900 was $700 when it came out, it is perfect to use it in 2nd system. I am fairly early adapter of electronics i have bought Oppo 203 and UB900 at same time almost, UB900 is excellent player in my opinion not worth selling to for $250 and spend more money on a new player which is marginally better, keep in mind these are all above average players. and soon as you do this there is new one out there. so my theory is get the best one and stick to it for min 3 years. when i get the new stuff instead of selling old for cheap i move it to the 2nd system.
not every system has to be upto date. my other system has UB900 connected to LG C7, Pioneer Elite Sc95 with Definitve tech 8000 series speakers. upscaling of BD is exceptional on UB900.
with streaming on rise and manufacture are limiting their resources developing new players, these players will be gone very soon. i am more inclined to keep them as i have lot of 4K media i have invested in.
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^If you have a use for it then keep it of course. My only point is it’s silly to keep something you don’t actually use just because it lost too much value. The SDR2020 Conversion and the HDR Optimizer in the UB820 makes it better than the UB900 (and the 203). Since I have a projector, those functions were a massive improvement to picture quality. I only play 4K discs on one system so I had zero use for the UB900 and it was for sale the next day.

If it serves no purpose, the price I paid has zero relevance on me selling it. Keeping it would simply be throwing away the residual value.
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Hi all, first post here, tried to search for this question, sorry for repost if this has been answered before.

Does UB900 Netflix and Prime apps support full 4K (60/4:4:4) or do I need to buy a firestick or something? I know Netflix has a separate plan I must upgrade to for $3. Does Prime need to be upgraded as well to get 4K?

Also, is it best to leave the display detection option to Auto or should I set it to 4K (among many options) if I have a 4K projector (like the HT3550)? I tried two things:

1. I was able to pick 4K but it defaulted to 4:2:2. Now everything I play (my cable box which is 1080i, xbox 1080p, bluray UHD disc which is 4k/24 and my Netflix is on a standard plan which shows HD but not UHD), the info button tells me input and output are 4K. That's erroneous. Leaving things on Auto seems to make sense but look for your thoughts

2. No matter what I do, I can't seem to pick the 4K (4:4:4) setting in my PanaUB900 setting (I let it run during detection phase for 3 minutes and it just appeared to lock up both the pana and my projector), it defaults to 4K (4:2:2).

Lastly, is there a for me to tell what this unit is putting out? My AVR tells me it's 4K (or 1080) for example, my projector tells me it's 4k/24p (or 1080p) but none tells me if it's 4:x:x)
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I just got in the market for a player. Can someone help me get a handle on what Panasonic is selling? What is their best 4k uhd player and best upscaling 1080p bluray player? Some quick searching got me to a DP-UB9000..... is that an older model or newer model? I can't seem to find it for sale anywhere. Maybe it was a typo and the model is actually the 900? Set me straight. Thanks

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Hi all, first post here, tried to search for this question, sorry for repost if this has been answered before.

Does UB900 Netflix and Prime apps support full 4K (60/4:4:4) or do I need to buy a firestick or something? I know Netflix has a separate plan I must upgrade to for $3. Does Prime need to be upgraded as well to get 4K?

Also, is it best to leave the display detection option to Auto or should I set it to 4K (among many options) if I have a 4K projector (like the HT3550)? I tried two things:

1. I was able to pick 4K but it defaulted to 4:2:2. Now everything I play (my cable box which is 1080i, xbox 1080p, bluray UHD disc which is 4k/24 and my Netflix is on a standard plan which shows HD but not UHD), the info button tells me input and output are 4K. That's erroneous. Leaving things on Auto seems to make sense but look for your thoughts

2. No matter what I do, I can't seem to pick the 4K (4:4:4) setting in my PanaUB900 setting (I let it run during detection phase for 3 minutes and it just appeared to lock up both the pana and my projector), it defaults to 4K (4:2:2).

Lastly, is there a for me to tell what this unit is putting out? My AVR tells me it's 4K (or 1080) for example, my projector tells me it's 4k/24p (or 1080p) but none tells me if it's 4:x:x)
Almost all player streaming apps are poor. I do suggest a dedicated streamer but get a Nvidia Shield or Roku Ultra. Those Firesticks are awful.

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I just got in the market for a player. Can someone help me get a handle on what Panasonic is selling? What is their best 4k uhd player and best upscaling 1080p bluray player? Some quick searching got me to a DP-UB9000..... is that an older model or newer model? I can't seem to find it for sale anywhere. Maybe it was a typo and the model is actually the 900? Set me straight. Thanks
The UB9000 is the best but it is extremely expensive and has esoteric features you're unlikely to need. Their next best player is the UB820 and is the best reasonably priced player you can get (even Oppo owners are switching). The UB820 replaced the UB900 and is better in every way. The UB820 introduced a HDR Optimizer and Tone Mapping which makes it stand head and shoulders above the UB900 and any other 4K player. There is a UB820 thread with more info.
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I just bought a used UB900.

The remote that came with it (shown on the right in the pic) has 43 buttons and isn't the same as the one pictured in the manual, which has 53 buttons.

Did anyone else get a remote like the one I got?
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I just bought a used UB900.

The remote that came with it (shown on the right in the pic) has 43 buttons and isn't the same as the one pictured in the manual, which has 53 buttons.

Did anyone else get a remote like the one I got?
My remote is as shown in the manual, so the seller bundled the wrong one, or maybe the player came from...a different territory?
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I suspect it's the former (wrong one).

I doubt Panasonic would switch to a cheesy remote (they're $10 on ebay) on a premier product.

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I suspect it's the former (wrong one).

I doubt Panasonic would switch to a cheesy remote (they're $10 on ebay) on a premier product.
Sorry; it is a very nice remote I think:
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No need to be sorry

Ther seller claims it's what came with it, so I guess I'll have to take him at his word.

One button in particular that I'll miss is Playback Info, which displays video and audio info; the Status button just shows disc track info.

I've searched the URC remote codes of the UB900 and a bunch of other Panasonic players, but none include Playback Info.

Does anyone know how to get that info via the menus?

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I can confirm that both NF and Prime put out UHD 60p/WCG, BT 2020. Finally have it working. My remote is also as pictured in manual, FYI.


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I just bought a used UB900.

The remote that came with it (shown on the right in the pic) has 43 buttons and isn't the same as the one pictured in the manual, which has 53 buttons.

Did anyone else get a remote like the one I got?
No. Yours is as follows.

Panasonic remote control for DMP-BD75:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/New-Panasoni...-/321296470993

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https://manualmachine.com/panasonic/...ual/page:3/#17
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No need to be sorry



Ther seller claims it's what came with it, so I guess I'll have to take him at his word.



One button in particular that I'll miss is Playback Info, which displays video and audio info; the Status button just shows disc track info.



I've searched the URC remote codes of the UB900 and a bunch of other Panasonic players, but none include Playback Info.



Does anyone know how to get that info via the menus?


Looks like the seller upgraded to the UB820 and swapped out the remote as the 900 has a better remote.


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Looks like the seller upgraded to the UB820 and swapped out the remote as the 900 has a better remote.
Nope, the UB820 remote has Netflix and HDR buttons.
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Nope, the UB820 remote has Netflix and HDR buttons.


Seller possibly has purchased an 820, had an old bd75 lying around and kept 900 remote, the compromises are those buttons missing but that’s the drawback to having a premium remote plus you can still access through menu


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Seller possibly has purchased an 820, had an old bd75 lying around and kept 900 remote, the compromises are those buttons missing but that’s the drawback to having a premium remote plus you can still access through menu
Conjectures seem sizable. Buyer & Seller have more information, or access to, than we do.

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Does the ub900 support Dolby Vision?

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Ahh yes most of us, especially JVC owners are well aware that you can spend the extra money on a HD Fury Linker or Vertex to achieve BT2020. However we are talking out the box operation with the UB900, which is a different proposition if you don't spend the extra $180-$350 on the linker or more expensive vertex.

You can continue to call the basic conversion process tone mapping in the 900 but for all intents it isn't the tone mapping feature that most of us here on the forums would consider as that, especially when placed along side much more fully formed options such as MadVR, The Lumagen Radiance, or The Oppos implementation. I'm fairly certain guys like @Javs and @zombie10k would agree on this as well. When you talk about your JVC and using 'normal gamma', it sounds like you haven't even experimented with custom gamma curves? Until you've seen that, or even seen tone mapping with a Radiance or even with the adjustability the Oppo provides, you won't be truly aware of what is possible image-wise on your JVC with HDR material. I'd strongly encourage you to explore the options, particularly custom curves given they cost nothing.
How can Imobtain or produce custom gamma curves? FYI I have a Sony 520es and Panasonic ub9000.
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Ahh yes most of us, especially JVC owners are well aware that you can spend the extra money on a HD Fury Linker or Vertex to achieve BT2020. However we are talking out the box operation with the UB900, which is a different proposition if you don't spend the extra $180-$350 on the linker or more expensive vertex.

You can continue to call the basic conversion process tone mapping in the 900 but for all intents it isn't the tone mapping feature that most of us here on the forums would consider as that, especially when placed along side much more fully formed options such as MadVR, The Lumagen Radiance, or The Oppos implementation. I'm fairly certain guys like @Javs and @zombie10k would agree on this as well. When you talk about your JVC and using 'normal gamma', it sounds like you haven't even experimented with custom gamma curves? Until you've seen that, or even seen tone mapping with a Radiance or even with the adjustability the Oppo provides, you won't be truly aware of what is possible image-wise on your JVC with HDR material. I'd strongly encourage you to explore the options, particularly custom curves given they cost nothing.
How can Imobtain or produce custom gamma curves? FYI I have a Sony 520es and Panasonic ub9000.
Ahh it's call DTM (dynamic tone mapping) in the newer panasonic players and Lumagen Radiance, they don't have custom curves. The 9000 can sort this for you. You should be all good to go.

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Sorry; it is a very nice remote I think:
Pretty crappy of the seller.

They bought a 820 and sold you their 900 with the lesser 820 remote. They kept the 900 remote.

I made the same exchange, but sent the proper remote. I made sure to program the "Video Settings" key to my Harmony first.

I like my 820 slightly better, but it is puzzling why Panasonic bothered with a different remote, which isn't back0lit. The 9000 and 900 use the same one. Dumb.
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I made sure to program the "Video Settings" key to my Harmony first.

I just bought a Harmony Elite; is the "Video Settings" function not included when I assign the 900 as a device?

Does Harmony in general not include all remote button functions?

I'm wondering in particular about surround mode selection on my Marantz 7702 and various settings on my JVC projector.

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I just bought a Harmony Elite; is the "Video Settings" function not included when I assign the 900 as a device?

Does Harmony in general not include all remote button functions?

I'm wondering in particular about surround mode selection on my Marantz 7702 and various settings on my JVC projector.
Not likely, though I don't have the Elite. The secondary buttons have to be programmed through the button assign process, which is pretty simple.

You'll need to do that with the Playback Info button, which now displays HDR metadata, which is cool.
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The secondary buttons have to be programmed through the button assign process, which is pretty simple.

You'll need to do that with the Playback Info button, which now displays HDR metadata, which is cool.

Do I need the (right) remote to press the button in question?

Then I'm out of luck, since my remote doesn't have it.

Is it feasible to get the info from someone else's Harmony file?

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The secondary buttons have to be programmed through the button assign process, which is pretty simple.

You'll need to do that with the Playback Info button, which now displays HDR metadata, which is cool.

Do I need the (right) remote to press the button in question?

Then I'm out of luck, since my remote doesn't have it.

Is it feasible to get the info from someone else's Harmony file?
Yes, you do. Do you know anyone who has one?

Understand, you can get to it with your remote through options, but the direct button isn't on the 820 remote.
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Reporting re UB900, Panasonic performed Network Services maintenance May 13/14. This maintenance heads-up was noted for a few weeks prior, each time the Network Services was used. AFAIK the maintenance involved Panasonic servers improvement.

Viewing last night, it's my estimation that Amazon Prime Video now corresponds very closely to Netflix 4K picture quality, excellent. YouTube is substantially improved, but not in the same league as Netflix 4K and Amazon Prime Video. I do not subscribe to YouTube Premium.

Thank you, Panasonic, for not totally forgetting UB900.

Hopefully for the UB900, Panasonic will offer more firmware updates for 4K UHD and Blu-ray playability issues.

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