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Yes, you do. Do you know anyone who has one?

Nope, and there don't seem to be any retailers around here who have any on display.

How about the option to extract the info from someone else Harmony file?

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Anybody in the Silicon Valley area that has a 900 willing to let me come and learn from it (I have an old URC learning remote)?

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Reporting re UB900, Panasonic performed Network Services maintenance May 13/14. This maintenance heads-up was noted for a few weeks prior, each time the Network Services was used. AFAIK the maintenance involved Panasonic servers improvement.



Viewing last night, it's my estimation that Amazon Prime Video now corresponds very closely to Netflix 4K picture quality, excellent. YouTube is substantially improved, but not in the same league as Netflix 4K and Amazon Prime Video. I do not subscribe to YouTube Premium.



Thank you, Panasonic, for not totally forgetting UB900.



Hopefully for the UB900, Panasonic will offer more firmware updates for 4K UHD and Blu-ray playability issues.


I was wondering if they would release a firmware, well, more apps update as part of this maintenance cycle. YouTube is their worst app, no UHD and HDR.


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Nope, and there don't seem to be any retailers around here who have any on display.

How about the option to extract the info from someone else Harmony file?
Not sure how to go about that last one, but perhaps.

You can get to it through 'Options' on the 820 remote, but the 900 remote has a direct button I like.
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Not sure how to go about that last one, but perhaps.

If setup was done on a PC, there would be a file for it.

If it's a text file, perhaps it would be decipherable enough to cut and paste the relevant lines into my file.

And perhaps Logitech support would help.

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I was wondering if they would release a firmware, well, more apps update as part of this maintenance cycle. YouTube is their worst app, no UHD and HDR.
Panasonic is likely done with firmware update support for Panasonic DMP-UB900. Its last firmware update was June 2018 (Version 1.80, Network service compatibility).

Parts are unavailable, last I checked.

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I was wondering if they would release a firmware, well, more apps update as part of this maintenance cycle. YouTube is their worst app, no UHD and HDR.
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Panasonic is likely done with firmware update support for Panasonic DMP-UB900. Its last firmware update was June 2018 (Version 1.80, Network service compatibility).

Agree with last firmware v1.80, but does that mean they can't/won't add/update apps? An obvious one would be the Disney+ app later this year. Are you prepared to say Panasonic will never add this app to the UB900?

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Agree with last firmware v1.80, but does that mean they can't/won't add/update apps? An obvious one would be the Disney+ app later this year. Are you prepared to say Panasonic will never add this app to the UB900?
I don't think they will. It's a discontinued player that they probably don't want to encourage with ongoing updates. Never? No, stranger things have happened, and as you see below none of the others have received a Network Service Compatibility for 2019. A glimmer of hope?

It's nice it was included in Panasonic server maintenance last month. I noticed significant improvement for Amazon Prime and YouTube resolution, more so for Amazon. Good Omens (2019) is a lovely picture.

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Panasonic DMP-UB900 Network Service Compatibility updates: April 2017; August 2017; June 2018.

Panasonic DP-UB9000P, DP-UB820P Network Service Compatibility updates: September 2018 (2); October 2018.

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Can someone with a UB900, 2016 or newer JVC (I have a X570R/RS420) Linker, and ATV 4k help me out with settings needed to get a good HDR picture from both the UB900 and ATV 4k.

What I'm concerned about is that the UB900 does tone mapping, whereas the ATV 4k does not AFAIK.

Or does tone mapping only apply when I want to convert HDR to SDR?

Which I don't, because the JVC will have settings appropriate to HDR.

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Can someone with a UB900, 2016 or newer JVC (I have a X570R/RS420) Linker, and ATV 4k help me out with settings needed to get a good HDR picture from both the UB900 and ATV 4k.

What I'm concerned about is that the UB900 does tone mapping, whereas the ATV 4k does not AFAIK.

Or does tone mapping only apply when I want to convert HDR to SDR?

Which I don't, because the JVC will have settings appropriate to HDR.
I used to have a UB900 & Vertex. I used the Vertex to trick the UB900 into sending SDR BT2020 to my JVC RS400 projector. I sold the UB900 & Vertex and got a UB820, it is significantly better. No hyperbole, it is worth every single penny. I have the recommended settings here for JVC/UB820 owners.

I know it isn't what you want to hear but the UB900 is not the best player to use, the UB820 has significant advantages over the UB900, namely: HDR Optimizer and SDR2020 without needing an HD Fury device.

A small caveat: The ATV sometimes does weird things to the JVC RSx00 projectors, which sometimes required a HD Fury Vertex (or a Linker or Integral...I forget which) to remedy. I do not know if that affects the RS420, likely not.

Don't get too hung up on "HDR". Your projector can't really do it anyway and the UB820 (and to a lesser extent the UB900 when tricked with the HD Fury) decodes the HDR signal and still sends a full range signal to your projector, but it simply recognizes it as SDR since it's already been tone-mapped.

I've been where you are, if you stick with the UB900 you will be seriously missing out. The UB900 still holds good value so upgrading to the UB820 isn't that much more. Buy the UB820 and discover what your projector is truly capable of. You can thank me later.
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Before going any further, what about compatibility between picture parameters that the 820 and ATV 4k send out?

If I understand correctly, the JVC is receiving SDR; does ATV 4k have enough adjustability to get picture parameters that will be compatible w/JVC settings?

95% of my movie watching will be via ATV 4k, so that's actually more important.

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Before going any further, what about compatibility between picture parameters that the 820 and ATV 4k send out?

If I understand correctly, the JVC is receiving SDR; does ATV 4k have enough adjustability to get picture parameters that will be compatible w/JVC settings?

95% of my movie watching will be via ATV 4k, so that's actually more important.
It doesn't really matter. The JVC has built-in User presets that can save everything for one push recall. Your ATV would likely be on the JVC HDR Gamma Curve (or a preloaded custom one) and the UB820 in SDR2020 would be on Gamma 2.4. All the other settings would be the same.

Even if you ran the UB820 in HDR, the HDR Optimizer & TV Type selection (Tone Mapping) are both things the UB900 does not have and make a big difference.
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It doesn't really matter. The JVC has built-in User presets that can save everything for one push recall.

Good point.

Maybe; the wrinkle is that, from what I've read, HDR mastering is all over the map, so you ought to have three user presets corresponding to different nits levels.

JVC's effectively have only four, because user 1 has red push.

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Good point.

Maybe; the wrinkle is that, from what I've read, HDR mastering is all over the map, so you ought to have three user presets corresponding to different nits levels.

JVC's effectively have only four, because user 1 has red push.
Hence why I went SDR2020 on the UB820 and skipped over all that nonsense. I quite wish Panasonic made a HDMI input/output device that would do what the UB820 does for any source...

I just know that with my recommended settings in SDR2020+Gamma 2.4 I haven't had to make a single PQ adjustment since I configured it that way almost a year ago.

It also sounds like your doing a lot of reading and not a lot of doing. Once you start seeing this stuff for yourself, it will start making more sense.
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I just know that with my recommended settings in SDR2020+Gamma 2.4 I haven't had to make a single PQ adjustment since I configured it that way almost a year ago.

Good to hear; so I could use one preset for the 820 and the remaining three for ATV.


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It also sounds like your doing a lot of reading and not a lot of doing. Once you start seeing this stuff for yourself, it will start making more sense.

Yep

The problem is that I have no light control so can only use the pj after dark.

That's around 9 pm, by which time I'm tired and unmotivated to fuss around with this stuff.

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Good to hear; so I could use one preset for the 820 and the remaining three for ATV.

Yep

The problem is that I have no light control so can only use the pj after dark.

That's around 9 pm, by which time I'm tired and unmotivated to fuss around with this stuff.
From what I hear the built-in JVC HDR curve is serviceable for most so I’d start there. It’s definitely more tricky to dial-in streaming devices (which your only real option is diving into custom curves if you don’t like what the default JVC HDR curve gives you).

That’s what’s so great about my recommended UB820 settings. Once configured you walk away from the forums and enjoy your discs. If only it was that easy for streamers.
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Hi,
I currently have the UB900 connected to a Denon receiver, then to Sony 4K TV.( I have the scaling turned off on the Denon) Is there any advantage in turning off the 4K(50p/60p)output on the player, as the TV will recognise the 4K HDR signal anyway, or just leave it on? Do the two clash as they did when I did engage scaling temporarily on the Denon. TIA
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I currently have the UB900 connected to a Denon receiver, then to Sony 4K TV.( I have the scaling turned off on the Denon) Is there any advantage in turning off the 4K(50p/60p)output on the player, as the TV will recognise the 4K HDR signal anyway, or just leave it on? Do the two clash as they did when I did engage scaling temporarily on the Denon. TIA
Sounds like everything in your HT chain is good to go. Turn it off, let the TV do it. AVR just needs to pass-through, that's all. Enjoy!
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I currently have the UB900 connected to a Denon receiver, then to Sony 4K TV.( I have the scaling turned off on the Denon) Is there any advantage in turning off the 4K(50p/60p)output on the player, as the TV will recognise the 4K HDR signal anyway, or just leave it on? Do the two clash as they did when I did engage scaling temporarily on the Denon. TIA

IIRC, the 4K60p option is mainly intended for content recorded in 4K60fps (Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk). Otherwise most content will just a do 30 or 24 (if you want 24p Output enabled). See the manual here.
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Ok, in that case I'll turn it off. Thanks for the advice Guys.
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Either my player is doing something strange lately or my tv. it's been changing my picture mode after I put in a disc. I see a message ”HDMI Content Type Detected” and the picture mode switches over to home theater from professional 1. My tv is the Panasonic DX900 which I recently had calibrated. Professional 1 for SDR and Cinema for HDR In order to fix this, I had to turn off HDMI content type in the tv menu. I wonder why now would this have happened.


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Either my player is doing something strange lately or my tv. it's been changing my picture mode after I put in a disc. I see a message ”HDMI Content Type Detected” and the picture mode switches over to home theater from professional 1. My tv is the Panasonic DX900 which I recently had calibrated. Professional 1 for SDR and Cinema for HDR In order to fix this, I had to turn off HDMI content type in the tv menu. I wonder why now would this have happened.

Since they are both the same brand, sounds like a CEC/ARC thing. Does Panasonic have some sort of a protocol (like Sony) that (apparantly) isn't working properly? Turning it off may be the permanent solution.

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It has to be something like that as I also run the Samsung UBD-K8500 in the same system and that doesn't happen with that player


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