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yeah, its a cluster. Im liking the xbone S so far, since it does so many other things, but I still have to decide on Panny or PS4 Neo.
I am also conflicted between the UB900 vs PS4k. It appears the PS4K will be less expensive by 200 buks AFAIK. PS4K is slated to be released soon by October - November.

Per the below product link it shows the USB choice is 2.0. Really? Brand new with USB 3.o tech available and they chose 2.0?? SMH

IMHO 3.0 is needed for optimum 4k HDR transfer rate.

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Per the below product link it shows the USB choice is 2.0. Really? Brand new with USB 3.o tech available and they chose 2.0?? SMH

IMHO 3.0 is needed for optimum 4k HDR transfer rate.

Link: http://shop.panasonic.com/audio-and-...DMP-UB900.html
Nah... USB3.0 is a waste of time on any media playback device. As technically USB2.0 is able to offer data transfer speeds as high as 480 Mbps.

The new 100GB UHD disc's have a maximum data rate of 128 Mbps regardless of the frame-rate the video has been encoded at. Primarily because the UHD disc's can't currently spin any faster than this reliably - Which means this is well within the technical limit of USB2.0...

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Can you comment on the audio quality? How does it compare to other decks you have had in the past? Thanks !

I am also interested in the audio quality when using the analog outputs and also the separate two channel analog outputs, since I play a lot of cd's.
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Panasonic will be coming with a cheaper version. In Europe it will be called the DMP-UB700.

The difference with the 900 would be no analog outputs and no THX certification, price 499€.
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Panasonic will be coming with a cheaper version. In Europe it will be called the DMP-UB700.

The difference with the 900 would be no analog outputs and no THX certification, price 499€.
Link? Source? Details?

Edit: Ok found something.
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I am also interested in the audio quality when using the analog outputs and also the separate two channel analog outputs, since I play a lot of cd's.
I will be testing this with electrostatic headphones shortly. That will be revealing.
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OK so done some critical listening using these:

https://www.turramusic.com.au/pages/...aspx?CIID=5632

Thing to know about these cans is that they reveal any flaw in the source and are some of the cleanest sounding electrostats out there.
Used some pure audio 96Khz bluray and various lossless 192Khz files and CD.

Well all I can say is its definitely no false advertising or hype, this thing does deliver the goods. Its clean, natural sounding and delivers the full dynamics. I especially love the way it can mimic a Tube amp if you turn that option on. The sound is very spacious and dynamic just as it should be.

I did not notice much of a difference using the High Clarity sound option which turns the video off to send the cleanest sound only.

There is no noise whatsoever from this source. These headphones pick up the current flowing through the power supply of the HTPC if I crank them up high but no noise here.

I found myself turning the screen off and settling into a listening session, this had not happened in a while.

This thing really delivers when it comes to audio as well as video.

One very happy user here

Hope this helps some of you guys.
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OK so done some critical listening using these:

https://www.turramusic.com.au/pages/...aspx?CIID=5632

Thing to know about these cans is that they reveal any flaw in the source and are some of the cleanest sounding electrostats out there.
Used some pure audio 96Khz bluray and various lossless 192Khz files and CD.

Well all I can say is its definitely no false advertising or hype, this thing does deliver the goods. Its clean, natural sounding and delivers the full dynamics. I especially love the way it can mimic a Tube amp if you turn that option on. The sound is very spacious and dynamic just as it should be.

I did not notice much of a difference using the High Clarity sound option which turns the video off to send the cleanest sound only.

There is no noise whatsoever from this source. These headphones pick up the current flowing through the power supply of the HTPC if I crank them up high but no noise here.

I found myself turning the screen off and settling into a listening session, this had not happened in a while.

This thing really delivers when it comes to audio as well as video.

One very happy user here

Hope this helps some of you guys.
Thanks Bandyka, I was hoping that this player would be a decent cd player and it sounds like it's more than decent. I have the Samsung 8500 4K player and have had no issues with it, and will probably move it to the master bedroom.
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OK so done some critical listening using these:

https://www.turramusic.com.au/pages/...aspx?CIID=5632

Thing to know about these cans is that they reveal any flaw in the source and are some of the cleanest sounding electrostats out there.
Used some pure audio 96Khz bluray and various lossless 192Khz files and CD.

Well all I can say is its definitely no false advertising or hype, this thing does deliver the goods. Its clean, natural sounding and delivers the full dynamics. I especially love the way it can mimic a Tube amp if you turn that option on. The sound is very spacious and dynamic just as it should be.

I did not notice much of a difference using the High Clarity sound option which turns the video off to send the cleanest sound only.

There is no noise whatsoever from this source. These headphones pick up the current flowing through the power supply of the HTPC if I crank them up high but no noise here.

I found myself turning the screen off and settling into a listening session, this had not happened in a while.

This thing really delivers when it comes to audio as well as video.

One very happy user here

Hope this helps some of you guys.

Did you use the separate 2-channel analog outputs for your testing?

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I broke down and ordered this unit and will have it on Wednesday from BB Canada. I will get them to match and beat Trutone and get it for $780 CAN. I have the Yamaha 3050 which I got last week for a very incredible price, but do not have a 4K display yet. Still deciding what to get and may just go with a projector (JVC X550). In the meantime, I will play The Martian in Atmos from the 4K disc to my Panasonic 65ST60 ..... so it will be a downrezed version of an up-scaled 2K source......but Atmos. I will have to see what that looks like .... hard to stay out of 4K ...... but the hardest part is finding a display that I can tolerate at a price that is affordable (I want to see the new Sony 75").
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I broke down and ordered this unit and will have it on Wednesday from BB Canada. I will get them to match and beat Trutone and get it for $780 CAN. I have the Yamaha 3050 which I got last week for a very incredible price, but do not have a 4K display yet. Still deciding what to get and may just go with a projector (JVC X550). In the meantime, I will play The Martian in Atmos from the 4K disc to my Panasonic 65ST60 ..... so it will be a downrezed version of an up-scaled 2K source......but Atmos. I will have to see what that looks like .... hard to stay out of 4K ...... but the hardest part is finding a display that I can tolerate at a price that is affordable (I want to see the new Sony 75").
Not exactly. The Martian and its Extended Cut received newer 4k masters from the raw 6k and 4k digital camera source files with 2k SFX upscaled to 4k and re-comped. It's mostly a 4k disc rather than purely a 2k upconvert. This was done specifically for HDR archival and UHD Blu-ray home video purposes.

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Thanks Bandyka, I was hoping that this player would be a decent cd player and it sounds like it's more than decent. I have the Samsung 8500 4K player and have had no issues with it, and will probably move it to the master bedroom.
No worries, even if you don't have issues with the Samsung the features and quality set them way apart. Not a single thought of regret here even given the high price tag.

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Did you use the separate 2-channel analog outputs for your testing?
Sure did.
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Not exactly. The Martian and its Extended Cut received newer 4k masters from the raw 6k and 4k digital camera source files with 2k SFX upscaled to 4k and re-comped. It's mostly a 4k disc rather than purely a 2k upconvert. This was done specifically for HDR archival and UHD Blu-ray home video purposes.
The beauty of the Panny is that it will perfectly match your display and even has settings to make SDR HDR like but of course you want native HDR 4K with it it really.

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I broke down and ordered this unit and will have it on Wednesday from BB Canada. I will get them to match and beat Trutone and get it for $780 CAN. I have the Yamaha 3050 which I got last week for a very incredible price, but do not have a 4K display yet. Still deciding what to get and may just go with a projector (JVC X550). In the meantime, I will play The Martian in Atmos from the 4K disc to my Panasonic 65ST60 ..... so it will be a downrezed version of an up-scaled 2K source......but Atmos. I will have to see what that looks like .... hard to stay out of 4K ...... but the hardest part is finding a display that I can tolerate at a price that is affordable (I want to see the new Sony 75").
Definitely go with a projector.
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I am also conflicted between the UB900 vs PS4k. It appears the PS4K will be less expensive by 200 buks AFAIK. PS4K is slated to be released soon by October - November.

Per the below product link it shows the USB choice is 2.0. Really? Brand new with USB 3.o tech available and they chose 2.0?? SMH

IMHO 3.0 is needed for optimum 4k HDR transfer rate.

Link: http://shop.panasonic.com/audio-and-...DMP-UB900.html
USB 3.0 is not needed for streaming. You can stream content over USB 2.0 speeds and will see no difference over a USB 3.0 port. Since the bitrate is far below what USB 2.0 is capable of.

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Nah... USB3.0 is a waste of time on any media playback device. As technically USB2.0 is able to offer data transfer speeds as high as 480 Mbps.

The new 100GB UHD disc's have a maximum data rate of 128 Mbps regardless of the frame-rate the video has been encoded at. Primarily because the UHD disc's can't currently spin any faster than this reliably - Which means this is well within the technical limit of USB2.0...
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USB 3.0 is not needed for streaming. You can stream content over USB 2.0 speeds and will see no difference over a USB 3.0 port. Since the bitrate is far below what USB 2.0 is capable of.
I get what you mention spec wise, but if offered the choice 2.0 USB vs 3.0 USB, count my vote for 3.0 USB especially in today's tech that is growing daily exponentially. I therefore choose to buy forward future whenever possible since tech becomes obsolete faster than years prior and will continue to do so.

USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0 so there is no rational reason on a new 4k HDR BD player going with an older tech except to save costs. IMO

As you can see in my sig I have a JS9500 and bought the 4k media pack that utilized 3.0 on the OCB. There are indeed sound reasons why devices are putting 3.0 ports on devices. So again I will vote 3.0 in my future purchases...that is until 3.1 USB becomes the primo choice in the marketplace.

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I get what you mention spec wise, but if offered the choice 2.0 USB vs 3.0 USB, count my vote for 3.0 USB especially in today's tech that is growing daily exponentially. I therefore choose to buy forward future whenever possible since tech becomes obsolete faster than years prior and will continue to do so.
USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0 so there is no rational reason on a new 4k HDR BD player going with an older tech except to save costs. IMO
Don't get me wrong. I will certainly take USB 3.0 over 2.0 if given a choice for future proofing or for higher transfer speeds.

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USB 3.0 is not needed for streaming. You can stream content over USB 2.0 speeds and will see no difference over a USB 3.0 port. Since the bitrate is far below what USB 2.0 is capable of. // Don't get me wrong. I will certainly take USB 3.0 over 2.0 if given a choice for future proofing or for higher transfer speeds.
Ok you take 3.0 and I'll take 3.1. lol

I just updated my post here (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-bl...l#post46123449 ) with a 3min speed test comparison that is interesting.

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Don't get me wrong. I will certainly take USB 3.0 over 2.0 if given a choice for future proofing or for higher transfer speeds.
As would I...

But as we've both intimated, if a media player only offers a USB2 connection it's certainly not going to effect my decision whether or not to buy it. As it will be a few years yet before we'll actually need media players with USB3 file transfer speeds

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Yay! Finally got an email saying my UB900 will ship the end of next week!!
Likewise....sent my payment in less than a minute.
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You guys ordering through Best Buy or Value Elec.....or somewhere else?? My birthday is coming up and my wife is asking me what I want.

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You guys ordering through Best Buy or Value Elec.....or somewhere else?? My birthday is coming up and my wife is asking me what I want.
Value Elec as they are a couple of weeks ahead of Best buy
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I've tested HDR demos just fine running off a USB stick.
Ok interesting, I tested that when I got my Panny back in late May and it wouldn't play HDR or 4K demos off USB at all, unlike the Samsung that did out right out of the box. There have been about 5 firmware updates since then so I would have to conclude that one of them addressed that. I'm assuming you are talking the clips available on demo-uhd.com like Sony Camp and non HDR like Sony Aquarium, non HDR like LG wonders, etc? I'll go back and try them again tonight.

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Yay! Finally got an email saying my UB900 will ship the end of next week!!
I am on the fence between the UB900 & the PS4k (NEO) that they will show on 9/7/16.

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I own the Xbox One S and the UB900. I have a very dedicated 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos so the Xbox One S was really just for 4K and future HDR gaming. It does not support more than 5.1 uncompressed.

When I watch San Andreas and The Watchmen on one 4k (One S) vs the other UB900 the richness of colours especially reds and orange (fire/explosions) is noticeable.

You should check out some UK sites that have specified a contest BTW the two in their reviews.

Not sure what sound options will be with the PSNEO but let's hope better the Microsoft video only offering to 4k glory.
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