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I'm sitting 2.5m (8 feet), from my Samsung 65" JS9505, and can barely spot the difference in resolution.
On Netflix, I find "House of Cards" and "Stranger things" to be quite equal if I stream them as 1080p and as 2160p.
I even find the blu-ray of movies like "Warcraft" and "Mad Max" to be somewhat "sharper" in standard 1080p.

But for the HDR-aspect there is a severe difference favouring the HDR on my part.
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I'm sitting 2.5m (8 feet), from my Samsung 65" JS9505, and can barely spot the difference in resolution.
On Netflix, I find "House of Cards" and "Stranger things" to be quite equal if I stream them as 1080p and as 2160p.
I even find the blu-ray of movies like "Warcraft" and "Mad Max" to be somewhat "sharper" in standard 1080p.

But for the HDR-aspect there is a severe difference favouring the HDR on my part.
I have found it depends on the content. With Orange is the new Black, I can't tell the difference. I probably wouldn't care if it was 720p, it's just not a highly detailed type of show that looks great in 2160p. I also watched Narcos, and it looks SPECTACULAR in 4K, and it doesn't have HDR. The pans over Medellin are absolutely spectacular, and everything looks sharp and crisp throughout the show.
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I'm sitting 2.5m (8 feet), from my Samsung 65" JS9505, and can barely spot the difference in resolution.
On Netflix, I find "House of Cards" and "Stranger things" to be quite equal if I stream them as 1080p and as 2160p.
I even find the blu-ray of movies like "Warcraft" and "Mad Max" to be somewhat "sharper" in standard 1080p.

But for the HDR-aspect there is a severe difference favouring the HDR on my part.
You are eight feed away. You need to be half that distance to easily see the resolution difference. Although I can;t say that I've compared House of Cards to STranger things. But I've compared 1080P streamed HoC to 2160P steramed HoC to 1080P Blu-ray Disc HoC. The 2160P streamed version is easily better than the 1080P streamed version. But the 2160P streamed version is on par with the 1080P BD.
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I have it on and it still shows that but on my pro everything shows it's good the 4K and hdr


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Do you guys know why this comes out I got the hu9000 with the sek3500 and the k8500?
You will have to activate UHD Color in picture settings for the HDMI-port the player is connected to.

Example, lets say UBD-K8500 is connected to HDMI-3 on the SEK3500
On the tv, go to settings, picture, and a bit down there is the option for "UHD Color".
Activate UHD color for HDMI 3 in this case, the tv will reboot, and it should work fine.
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I'm sitting 2.5m (8 feet), from my Samsung 65" JS9505, and can barely spot the difference in resolution.
On Netflix, I find "House of Cards" and "Stranger things" to be quite equal if I stream them as 1080p and as 2160p.
I even find the blu-ray of movies like "Warcraft" and "Mad Max" to be somewhat "sharper" in standard 1080p.

But for the HDR-aspect there is a severe difference favouring the HDR on my part.
Did you upgrade your netflix account to the 4k plan?

I watched 3 episodes of Narcos before I realized it was still 1080 and had to upgrade to the more expensive plan
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As you guys can see I have the hdmi Uhd color on and when I watch the 4K hdr movies on the k8500 this comes out
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As you guys can see I have the hdmi Uhd color on and when I watch the 4K hdr movies on the k8500 this comes out


Is this connected through an AVR or sound bar? If so then plug it directly into the tv.

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I'm sitting 2.5m (8 feet), from my Samsung 65" JS9505, and can barely spot the difference in resolution.
On Netflix, I find "House of Cards" and "Stranger things" to be quite equal if I stream them as 1080p and as 2160p.
I even find the blu-ray of movies like "Warcraft" and "Mad Max" to be somewhat "sharper" in standard 1080p.

But for the HDR-aspect there is a severe difference favouring the HDR on my part.
Amazon's single season of Mad Dogs looks amazing in 4k and HDR. It really takes advantage of the detail and the nuances of both. Too bad it probably won't show up on UHD Blu-ray as it would, hopefully, have a greater bit rate. It was also a surprisingly enjoyable show too, though on the violent side.

And that's the problem with streaming... they compress the hell out of their content.

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It's connected to a avr how can I use my receiver then ?

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As you guys can see I have the hdmi Uhd color on and when I watch the 4K hdr movies on the k8500 this comes out


Is this connected through an AVR or sound bar? If so then plug it directly into the tv.
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It's connected to a avr how can I use my receiver then ?
If you have a receiver that doesn't support 4k/HDR passthrough, you connect one HDMI output of the UBD-K8500 directly to the TV, and the second (for audio only) to the receiver. Choose the K8500 settings to match.

(I'll spare you a "search the thread" posting. With the number of posts, it gets ridiculous.)
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So what does this new update do that just got pushed to my player?
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It's connected to a avr how can I use my receiver then ?
If you have a receiver that doesn't support 4k/HDR passthrough, you connect one HDMI output of the UBD-K8500 directly to the TV, and the second (for audio only) to the receiver. Choose the K8500 settings to match.

(I'll spare you a "search the thread" posting. With the number of posts, it gets ridiculous.)
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just set mine up last night. Any leads on a larger remote for bigger fingers?

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just set mine up last night. Any leads on a larger remote for bigger fingers?
Bigger and better remote.
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Price is very good. Anyone use this on a 8500?

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Yes, several of us use it.
And it has more functions too.
Dedicated buttons for fast forward and rewind.
Dedicated buttons for sound track and subtitles. (These also work on Netflix, so no need to get into the language menu).
If you have a Samsung tv, in will also control channel + -, mute sound, as well as the volume up/down, source and power.
And if I remember correctly, the "[email protected]"-key on the remote, takes you to your app-screen.
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Yes, several of us use it.
And it has more functions too.
Dedicated buttons for fast forward and rewind.
Dedicated buttons for sound track and subtitles. (These also work on Netflix, so no need to get into the language menu).
If you have a Samsung tv, in will also control channel + -, mute sound, as well as the volume up/down, source and power.
And if I remember correctly, the "[email protected]"-key on the remote, takes you to your app-screen.
Thanks,
Ordered one.

Saw some talk that the Samsung TV remote may work also. Will check the buttons today.

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Anyone know any good settings for the k8500 on user settings with the hu9000?
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Is Netflix HDR available on this yet? I am waiting for it to be available on this player or my JS8500 TV.
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Is Netflix HDR available on this yet? I am waiting for it to be available on this player or my JS8500 TV.
No, and no date has been announced. Per numerous posts, Samsung has announced that the JS Series displays will get the Netflix HDR app in December.

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The latest update fixed a Netflix issue for me. Every single time I tried watching it would crash out the moment an episode loaded. Then I would open it again and things were fine. After the update that no longer happens. Thank goodness as that was getting very old very quickly.
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Yesterday I received my 4th Samsung UBD-K8500 and I updated it to the lasted firmware. This one has the same issues as the other three that I tried. The issue is that it it has HDCP handshake issues to my Yamaha RX-A860 receiver and also connecting the K8500 to my Sony 55BXR930 directly. Its not the HDMI cable or the HDMI ports. My Xbox One S does not have this kind of issue. I will be returning the K8500 and wait for the second gen Ultra 4k Bluray players. For the time being, I will use my Xbox One S for watching 4k blu-ray movies, 4k Netflix streaming, and use my Sony BDP-S6500 for watching blu-ray movies.
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Just for the kicks of it.
Try using the XBox One S HDMI-cable directly into your tv. Just to make sure.
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When going to the TV you have to turn on the enhanced mode for the input you are using. I had trouble with the K8500 through my AVR so I had to use the 2 HDMI cable method.

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Yesterday I received my 4th Samsung UBD-K8500 and I updated it to the lasted firmware. This one has the same issues as the other three that I tried. The issue is that it it has HDCP handshake issues to my Yamaha RX-A860 receiver and also connecting the K8500 to my Sony 55BXR930 directly. Its not the HDMI cable or the HDMI ports. My Xbox One S does not have this kind of issue. I will be returning the K8500 and wait for the second gen Ultra 4k Bluray players. For the time being, I will use my Xbox One S for watching 4k blu-ray movies, 4k Netflix streaming, and use my Sony BDP-S6500 for watching blu-ray movies.
I guess you just wanted to let us all know you have extremely bad luck what with four K8500 UHD Blu-ray players since you have ruled out everything else.

Just for kicks, are those HDMI Premium Certified cables you are using to hook up the player to the TV? As you might have read in this thread (because it is discussed almost daily) the K8500's Home screen is displayed at 8bit 4:4:4 60hz which uses close to the full 18.0 Gbps bandwidth permissible under the HDMI 2.0 spec (almost double the bitrate under which conventional "high speed" cable testing tops out).
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No, and no date has been announced. Per numerous posts, Samsung has announced that the JS Series displays will get the Netflix HDR app in December.


Thank you for the information. I don't keep up with this and the JS8500 thread regularly.
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I guess you just wanted to let us all know you have extremely bad luck what with four K8500 UHD Blu-ray players since you have ruled out everything else.

Just for kicks, are those HDMI Premium Certified cables you are using to hook up the player to the TV? As you might have read in this thread (because it is discussed almost daily) the K8500's Home screen is displayed at 8bit 4:4:4 60hz which uses close to the full 18.0 Gbps bandwidth permissible under the HDMI 2.0 spec (almost double the bitrate under which conventional "high speed" cable testing tops out).
Interesting some of us have had zero issues. It can't all be blind luck.

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Interesting some of us have had zero issues. It can't all be blind luck.
Unfortunately, it's exactly that. Whatever some articles online will tell you, no high speed cables were designed to work @18Gbps, have not been tested to work with HDMI 2.0 sources and while, with short cables, they may work, often they will not, especially @>15ft, but even @3ft!

On the plus side, if they do work with the Samsung menu on a recent UHD TV, that supports 4K/60 4:4:4, the cable is good for anything! Make sure you are not using a Yamaha AVR though, as by default they use a 4K Mode that removes all video modes >9Gbps, so forcing the Samsung to use 4K/60 4:2:0 8-bit, although this can be changed in Advanced Setup. I know a few people with Yamaha AVRs that didn't discover this setting and didnt realise they were not getting the full UHD experience.

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You are eight feed away. You need to be half that distance to easily see the resolution difference. Although I can;t say that I've compared House of Cards to STranger things. But I've compared 1080P streamed HoC to 2160P steramed HoC to 1080P Blu-ray Disc HoC. The 2160P streamed version is easily better than the 1080P streamed version. But the 2160P streamed version is on par with the 1080P BD.
The problem I have is that while I am currently 7 or 8 feet away from my 65" JS850D, 4k and 1080p streaming look amazing, but Comcast is so bad that it's borderline unwatchable at that distance and screen size. I would argue that the difference between 1080p and 2160p is quite noticeable at that distance.
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Is there a reason why every time I turn on the k8500 the backlight is always on 20?
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