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post #10921 of 14194 Old 12-08-2016, 10:12 PM
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Hmm... I only burned the ISO from the File menu on my Mac. No authoring software at all, really. I assume Toast would cause the same issue.
I'm waiting for the Oppo, as well, and may likely sell this, as I have a Roku Premiere +, so the streaming is a non-issue.
But will the Oppo work? One can only hope.
I'm saying the original guy has authored it on a program such as Adobe, how you burn it is irrelevant.
Going back to the Ted disk as an example the iso of that would never play on my Pioneer with custom firmware, i had to burn it to disk, the same disk would load in the samsung but it would skip loads of titles without actually playing them meaning the files had to be played back from USB, USB playback on the Samsung has been shown to produce a different roll off than disk playback so it was hard to get a proper calibration.. and i have gone way of topic here.
If the original title has been authored on certain software (regardless of what you choose to burn with) it will cause problems in the Samsung.
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I ordered mine the 16th of November, and it arrived about 18-20 days later.
So I bet your is just around the corner.
Got mine yesterday and it works fine (ordered a second one). Noticed it had Samsung printed on the front and the center arrow panel was a rocker type assembly and not dedicated buttons. Turned on both Samsung TVs and player without issue. Wonder if it works on my Samsung sound bar?

Also hooked up my second UBD 8500 player and used the audio HDMI out for my receiver. Good thing as I was out of optical connections.

My 65KS9000 should be here next week for a full up test of all this. I am using the purple very HD MONOPRICE high speed internet HDMI cables. Hope these are good enough.

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Hi

Heres is some interesting issues

1. Avatar wont play on K8500 UHD latest firmware is installed 1009
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Hi

Heres is some interesting issues

1. Avatar wont play on K8500 UHD latest firmware is installed 1009
Blu-ray? 3D Blu-ray? UHD Blu-ray?

There have been quite a lot of problems with UHD Blu-ray generally - either discs being defective from new or going bad after a while. Price of being on the cutting edge I guess!
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I wonder if I should buy this now or wait for the oppo to release.

I want the very best this genre has to offer and from reading on this thread this player has some issues
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Heres is some interesting issues

1. Avatar wont play on K8500 UHD latest firmware is installed 1009
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I wonder if I should buy this now or wait for the oppo to release.

I want the very best this genre has to offer and from reading on this thread this player has some issues
You would have a hard time finding any audio video component (including Oppo players) that doesn't have some issues.

However, if you are in no hurry and don't care about the extra cost, odds are that the Oppo will be a superior player.

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I've only had the player for a couple of weeks, and so far everything had been working fine out of the box. Last night, we sat down to finish Ghostbusters, and it took a couple of plug/unplug of the HDMI cable to get video (audio was working). Once it started working we made it through the rest of the movie no problem.

After it finished, we decided to start Insurgent. I had to do the plug/unplug thing again at the start of the movie to get video (audio was working). Then, whenever it would get to a part of the movie with a lot of audio, the video would go out again (or at least flicker). We gave up after that happened twice.

Am I right in assuming that the cables are likely the problem? Higher quality (monoprice or Amazon up to spec, of course) will fix this issue?

I do wonder why it started so suddenly. We'd watched Star Trek Beyond and Concussion in 4k prior to this without issue. I did check the TV and Blu-ray player's firmware and both are up to date.
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I'm saying the original guy has authored it on a program such as Adobe, how you burn it is irrelevant.
Going back to the Ted disk as an example the iso of that would never play on my Pioneer with custom firmware, i had to burn it to disk, the same disk would load in the samsung but it would skip loads of titles without actually playing them meaning the files had to be played back from USB, USB playback on the Samsung has been shown to produce a different roll off than disk playback so it was hard to get a proper calibration.. and i have gone way of topic here.
If the original title has been authored on certain software (regardless of what you choose to burn with) it will cause problems in the Samsung.
Ah, got it. Yeah, I have no idea how it was authored, but it is very well done. Just can't get it to play the actual movie on the Samsung.

I wonder if the Oppo would handle this well... I'm torn between selling this barely used Sammy and getting that, or just keeping it.

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I wonder if I should buy this now or wait for the oppo to release.

I want the very best this genre has to offer and from reading on this thread this player has some issues
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You would have a hard time finding any audio video component (including Oppo players) that doesn't have some issues.

However, if you are in no hurry and don't care about the extra cost, odds are that the Oppo will be a superior player.
Mine has been in service since early February (I believe the 10th), and the only issue for me is the ghosting issue with HD Blu-ray (which is part of the reason I use my old BRP for HD Blu-ray playback); it really depends on your setup, as there are some who claim they don't even have that issue.

In fact, I would wager that the Oppo will not offer any advantage outputting the UHD disk content in its purest form; HST, who knows what enhancements it will offer (even if I wouldn't use them, I'm still getting it either way ).

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I've only had the player for a couple of weeks, and so far everything had been working fine out of the box. Last night, we sat down to finish Ghostbusters, and it took a couple of plug/unplug of the HDMI cable to get video (audio was working). Once it started working we made it through the rest of the movie no problem.

After it finished, we decided to start Insurgent. I had to do the plug/unplug thing again at the start of the movie to get video (audio was working). Then, whenever it would get to a part of the movie with a lot of audio, the video would go out again (or at least flicker). We gave up after that happened twice.

Am I right in assuming that the cables are likely the problem? Higher quality (monoprice or Amazon up to spec, of course) will fix this issue?

I do wonder why it started so suddenly. We'd watched Star Trek Beyond and Concussion in 4k prior to this without issue. I did check the TV and Blu-ray player's firmware and both are up to date.
i had a similar issue, but more so with the main menu of the player, when I first got the 8500 player this summer. Once I upgraded to the monoprice certified cables I haven't had an issues.
this is the new cable I bought, and haven't had one dropout since
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_i...seq=1&format=2
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i had a similar issue, but more so with the main menu of the player, when I first got the 8500 player this summer. Once I upgraded to the monoprice certified cables I haven't had an issues.
this is the new cable I bought, and haven't had one dropout since
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_i...seq=1&format=2
That's what I was hoping for, thanks!
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Being quite happy with this player I have 2 questions couldn't get any answers yet:
- Is there any mod available around to make it Bluray region free?.
- I'm having trouble playing self authored/re-authored BDs. Discs can't pass the main menu page. Is there any way to report this to Samsung and hope for an update to make the player less picky with certain discs?... I must say same discs play flawlessly on Pioneer and Oppo players.



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@mrtickleuk and @rlb , I want to thank you again for your comments that I quoted above in post #10920. The Sony PDF on HDR was really useful to help me understand what I've been seeing today on my Samsung/Vizio as I began trying to re-create the magic discussed in depth by @mpgxsvcd and summarized so well in his post #75 of this thread. One thing I did after making my last post was to cut the brightness increment I had made to almost nothing. Changing the gamma as suggested helped.

I need to stop all this fun to travel for a funeral, but when I have more time I'll post what I did and the settings I've used on both devices. In short, I've gotten great results even with this limited setup and have been able to do actual A/B comparisons on my Vizio of the 1080p output from my Panasonic player with the BR version of Independence Day versus the output from the Samsung using the UHD version (both discs are included in the box).

The obvious differences are the two different BR players and the two different Vizio inputs and their settings. The input for the HD BR is HDMI1 ([email protected]) while the UHD BR input is HDMI5 ([email protected]). The latter is identified as "1080p and Higher" and is what allows the "HDR-like" results. The Vizio shows the HDMI1 input to be 1080p and shows the HDMI5 input as 2160p. Because the tv upscales the 1080p input, I cannot say that I see a difference in the resolution. But the differences in tone, color, saturation and overall visual effect is stunning! That is where the Sony PDF helped me understand better what I was seeing -- more so than the various other references I've seen describing HDR and WCG. I see it in my screen comparisons and I see similar images in the photos provided in that PDF.

Now I get to show off my A/B results to my wife who wasn't especially impressed by the UHD disc being presented as 1080p and upscaled. This is a whole new ballgame!
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It has to be the most recent firmware update. I have the delay now too, when playing movies from a portable hard drive and no adjustment to the delay fixes it, and didn't before the update. UHD movies play fine.
I don't notice any lipsync issues while playing back UHD discs and Amazon video (UHD HDR). Maybe I try the hard drive later. What firmware version do you have? You have dual HDMI cables or single?
The UHD discs play fine, no sync issues. It's only with the hard drive. Pretty sure I have the latest firmware version, not sure of the number. I use two HDMI's one to the TV, and the other to my AVR. This just started with the most recent firmware update I did within the last couple of weeks.
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I searched this thread but didn't find answer to my question, so I don't know if this question was posted before.

I have MKV video file that I converted from M2TS file. It has PGS subtitles. When I play this file from external HDD and press subtitle button on remote I get message from the player that this video doesn't have subtitles.

Is it normal, "by design", that this Samsung UHD player cannot play PGS subtitles from MKV file?

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4K HDCP 2.2 compliance

I have a prior model AVR that is not HDCP 2.2 compliant. I’ve read that you can purchase bluray player like, Samsung UBD-K8500, that has two HDMI outputs so you can send audio to a receiver and video to a TV to get around this. However, in reading this review, http://referencehometheater.com/revi...ceiver-review/
it says that it isn’t ideal. Can someone confirm that you can do this with dual output and get full 4K compliance? Can someone explain why this isn’t ideal to run two cables, one for video and one for audio?
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Official Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player Owner's Thread

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I have a prior model AVR that is not HDCP 2.2 compliant. I’ve read that you can purchase bluray player like, Samsung UBD-K8500, that has two HDMI outputs so you can send audio to a receiver and video to a TV to get around this. However, in reading this review, http://referencehometheater.com/revi...ceiver-review/
it says that it isn’t ideal. Can someone confirm that you can do this with dual output and get full 4K compliance? Can someone explain why this isn’t ideal to run two cables, one for video and one for audio?
It is completely doable. I did it with my Panasonic DMP-BD460 due to my AVR not supporting 3D and do it now with the Philipd BDP7501 because my same AVR doesn't support 4K. Just got a 4K tv, but a new receiver isn't in the immediate cards so the dual output method works fine for me and has worked fine for me for quite some time.

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I have a prior model AVR that is not HDCP 2.2 compliant. I’ve read that you can purchase bluray player like, Samsung UBD-K8500, that has two HDMI outputs so you can send audio to a receiver and video to a TV to get around this. However, in reading this review, http://referencehometheater.com/revi...ceiver-review/
it says that it isn’t ideal. Can someone confirm that you can do this with dual output and get full 4K compliance? Can someone explain why this isn’t ideal to run two cables, one for video and one for audio?
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It is completely doable. I did it with my Panasonic DMP-BD460 due to my AVR not supporting 3D and do it now with the Philipd BDP7501 because my same AVR doesn't support 4K. Just got a 4K tv, but a new receiver isn't in the immediate cards so the dual output method works fine for me and has worked fine for me for quite some time.
Yes, in fact it's actually more ideal, (even if you have a compliant AVR; separate picture settings in the TV than other devices that pass through the AVR, less path to the display, etc.) It was probably not ideal for the reviewer, because it is less convenient for him to run both cables.
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I have a prior model AVR that is not HDCP 2.2 compliant. I’ve read that you can purchase bluray player like, Samsung UBD-K8500, that has two HDMI outputs so you can send audio to a receiver and video to a TV to get around this. However, in reading this review, http://referencehometheater.com/revi...ceiver-review/
it says that it isn’t ideal. Can someone confirm that you can do this with dual output and get full 4K compliance? Can someone explain why this isn’t ideal to run two cables, one for video and one for audio?
the only negative(s) I can think of are, possible lip sync issue for audio out of the AVR receiver vs TV (but that can be obviously corrected on the receiver and/or the 8500's lip sync correction setting; as well as having to remember to change the HDMI audio output from auto or hdmi1 to hdmi2 on the 8500 when switching from your tv's audio to the AVR's, as well as not being able to use your AVR as a video switcher

but all of these are minor.

i have a panasonic soundbar with breaker box that I bought 2 years ago, and it has hdmi 1.4 connections. I have no problem at all in having my 8500 hdmi1 connected to my LG LED TV, and hdmi2 to my soundbar's input, and setting the 8500's audio output to hdmi2. When it's late (or not wanting to put my soundbar on), I simply set the 8500's audio output back to auto or hdmi1. Not a big deal at all
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I have a prior model AVR that is not HDCP 2.2 compliant. I’ve read that you can purchase bluray player like, Samsung UBD-K8500, that has two HDMI outputs so you can send audio to a receiver and video to a TV to get around this. However, in reading this review, http://referencehometheater.com/revi...ceiver-review/
it says that it isn’t ideal. Can someone confirm that you can do this with dual output and get full 4K compliance? Can someone explain why this isn’t ideal to run two cables, one for video and one for audio?
I have a Yamaha AVR which is only HDMT 1.4. It will pass through 4K but not HDR. I therefore output the video directly to my Samsung KS8000 TV and audio to the amp. Works like a charm - HDR and HD audio. No lip sync issues.
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Yes, in fact it's actually more ideal, (even if you have a compliant AVR; separate picture settings in the TV than other devices that pass through the AVR, less path to the display, etc.) It was probably not ideal for the reviewer, because it is less convenient for him to run both cables.
I've recently changed to that setup deliberately, despite having a HDCP 2.x controller. For me, having ideal settings for HDR and the Samsung as my dedicated 3D player, leaving my Sony for normal DVDs and Blu Rays, meant I could calibrate the input for perfect viewing of 3D without making normal tv and discs look weird.
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new rub. Now I'm getting static on the rears when I play an atmos dvd through the 8500 sammy bluray player. I have wireless rears with the sammy 950 atmos soundbar with no preivous static in rears issues.

Does not do this with network tv or amazon or netflix.

Never did this before. I did update tv firmware to 1154 last night. But the dvd player should not be affected, especially where a dvd is playing to the sound bar by a direct audio hdmi from the player.

I swapped HDMI cables and rebooted the player.

Has my 8500 4 month old bluray player gone bad?

To isolate its the player, I might by another 8500 locally and install it rather than pay shipping back and forth to samsung to only get a refurb back.

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new rub. Now I'm getting static on the rears when I play an atmos dvd through the 8500 sammy bluray player. I have wireless rears with the sammy 950 atmos soundbar with no preivous static in rears issues.

Does not do this with network tv or amazon or netflix.

Never did this before. I did update tv firmware to 1154 last night. But the dvd player should not be affected, especially where a dvd is playing to the sound bar by a direct audio hdmi from the player.

I swapped HDMI cables and rebooted the player.

Has my 8500 4 month old bluray player gone bad?

To isolate its the player, I might by another 8500 locally and install it rather than pay shipping back and forth to samsung to only get a refurb back.
They put Atmos on DVDs?

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I am sure this has probably been covered 1000 times so I apologize in advance...SIMPLE QUESTION here.

Today I was trying out the new Reference Premiere Klipsch Atmos modules and I put in the Pacific Rim 4K disc as a demo. I instantly noticed how hot the skin tones were so that had me questioning my picture settings (this is on Sony 930D TV). Ugh.

May I inquire what picture mode you all use on the Samsung UBD8500 player (tools menu during playback brings it up)? Standard, Dynamic, Movie or User (values set to 0)? - Every review I seen says User (with all 0s) or Standard. But I have met people who use Movie mode too. What gives you the best results? It seems for Pacific Rim Movie mode was better, but that may be a bad example of coloring because the contrast is so hot already in that film.

Anyway just want to hear your thoughts please? Thanks in advance!!!
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new rub. Now I'm getting static on the rears when I play an atmos dvd through the 8500 sammy bluray player. I have wireless rears with the sammy 950 atmos soundbar with no previous static in rears issues.

Does not do this with network tv or amazon or netflix.

Never did this before. I did update tv firmware to 1154 last night. But the dvd player should not be affected, especially where a dvd is playing to the sound bar by a direct audio hdmi from the player.

I swapped HDMI cables and rebooted the player.

Has my 8500 4 month old bluray player gone bad?

To isolate its the player, I might by another 8500 locally and install it rather than pay shipping back and forth to samsung to only get a refurb back.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the player. If you have the HDMI audio out set to Bitstream (Unprocessed), PCM Downconversion off, and Dynamic Range Control off it just spits out the raw audio track data as-is off the Blu-ray or DVD or streaming service to the surround processor and lets it do the heavy lifting. It seems like your soundbar has wireless signal transmission issues or possibly something is internally amiss in your soundbar.
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What kind of HDR mode do you guys have on while watching a 4k hdr movie with your Bluray player? standard, bright or vivid? i notice standard is a little kind of darkish/ any of you guys do your own tweaks for better picture? I have a B6 Oled connected to the k8500.
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Saw this from Sony recently. It's worth taking a look. It shows why HDR may well be darker in some scenes. The whole point is it is able to show bright highlights while preserving shadow detail.

I have the LG E6 and use "Standard HDR". "Bright HDR" is really only for brightly lit rooms and "Vivid HDR" is best avoided. It is generally not advised to mess with the HDR settings, unless you have professional equipment. It's a bit of a black art to set up at this time!
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What kind of HDR mode do you guys have on while watching a 4k hdr movie with your Bluray player? standard, bright or vivid? i notice standard is a little kind of darkish/ any of you guys do your own tweaks for better picture? I have a B6 Oled connected to the k8500.
On Samsung HDR TV sets Movie is the preset that loads an appropriate Gamma profile.
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